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Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Saint:

It is such a tradgedy

I'm sure those who played the prank are mostly good people and are horrified

And lets hope they are soon jobless and horrified.

yup I agree. . playing pranks should only ever be done when you know all, and I mean all, as in knowing them very very well, about the person you are playing a prank on. . this stoopid style of infantile behaviour that seems to delight Dj's is irresponsible to say the least..  clearly there was other things going on in that poor nurses life/head and this prank obviously tipped her over the edge. . apparently it was 5.30 in the morning .. regardless of this other outcome did they expect them to wake Kate up for a chat after she'd been puking for days. . that in itself was outrageous  ..they should have put the phone down when they realised they had got thru the security and could possibly be put thru to a sleeping patient. .idiots..

 

I hope those infantile DJ's  grow up a little after this awful side effect of their 'pranks' .. 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Originally Posted by Saint:
Originally Posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:

I do think its tragic...   and I do feel desperately sorry for her..     and think what has happened is horribly horribly sad... 

 

 

what I can't do is fully empathise..  however hard I try.     Its beyond my understanding to comprehend the decision to not only abandon your kids, but to leave them having to live their lives coming to terms with the fact that their Mum killed herself. 

 

 

That's cos you are not her, in her position.

 

We rush to judge, we pressurise each other to be 'better'.

We demand more. We blame more.

We are becoming a less sympathetic society.

I despair

oh whatever!!!

 

despair away...    in fact if I make you despair then I kind of take that as an endorsement that I am doing ok after all.. 

 

Ditty i used 'we' because i wasn't meaning 'you'.

I was commenting about society as a whole.

I'm sure you're a decent person. I am too.

Saint
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

Statement from @2DayFMSydney says the show is now off air and that the presenters involved in royal hoax have been suspended

It showed a clip on Sky earlier of them finding the whole thing very funny, I bet they don't now

i bet they dont!

but if im honest i dont think theyre fully to blame..a daft prank thats gone tits up

all very sad though

...that's my take Pirate.     I expect EVERY radio station has/did make prank wind up calls like this, and I bet up until this afternoon they were all really jealous that the aussies pulled this one off.     I honestly think the poor woman must have had some sort of problem prior to this.  That said, being the 'last straw' (if indeed that's what happened) isn't going to make the djs feel any better.    

Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

Statement from @2DayFMSydney says the show is now off air and that the presenters involved in royal hoax have been suspended

It showed a clip on Sky earlier of them finding the whole thing very funny, I bet they don't now

i bet they dont!

but if im honest i dont think theyre fully to blame..a daft prank thats gone tits up

all very sad though

...that's my take Pirate.     I expect EVERY radio station has/did make prank wind up calls like this, and I bet up until this afternoon they were all really jealous that the aussies pulled this one off.     I honestly think the poor woman must have had some sort of problem prior to this.  That said, being the 'last straw' (if indeed that's what happened) is going to make the djs feel any better.    

Some of the remarks directed to this radiostation's FB page have me incredulous - you'd think the whole country of Australia is responsible for this 

FM

Agree ...................a bit of fun 'gone wrong'. This suicide is indeed a tragedy but there is probably more to it.

 

I know security was breached but ....it was just a prank. Pranks have been a staple of TV and radio for years - it would be a sad old world if we couldn't have a laugh wouldn't it?

 

TBH - I feel a tad sorry for the DJ's. I don't see that they can be held responsible for this nurses very sad and tragic decision.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
 

Some of the remarks directed to this radiostation's FB page have me incredulous - you'd think the whole country of Australia is responsible for this 

   pathetic.

 

 

Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

Agree ...................a bit of fun 'gone wrong'. This suicide is indeed a tragedy but there is probably more to it.

 

I know security was breached but ....it was just a prank. Pranks have been a staple of TV and radio for years - it would be a sad old world if we couldn't have a laugh wouldn't it?

 

TBH - I feel a tad sorry for the DJ's. I don't see that they can be held responsible for this nurses very sad and tragic decision.

   i do too 

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

Agree ...................a bit of fun 'gone wrong'. This suicide is indeed a tragedy but there is probably more to it.

 

I know security was breached but ....it was just a prank. Pranks have been a staple of TV and radio for years - it would be a sad old world if we couldn't have a laugh wouldn't it?

 

TBH - I feel a tad sorry for the DJ's. I don't see that they can be held responsible for this nurses very sad and tragic decision.

FM
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

Agree ...................a bit of fun 'gone wrong'. This suicide is indeed a tragedy but there is probably more to it.

 

I know security was breached but ....it was just a prank. Pranks have been a staple of TV and radio for years - it would be a sad old world if we couldn't have a laugh wouldn't it?

 

TBH - I feel a tad sorry for the DJ's. I don't see that they can be held responsible for this nurses very sad and tragic decision.

Oh good god, you feel sorry for those unfunny morons?

 

Regardless of the nurse's suicide I always felt that those two prats should lose their job over this,  to try and get personal deatails about a patient by pretending to be family is FRAUD,  surely a crime, even in Australia.

 

I hate this kind of radio anyway, remember Russell (unfunny) Bland and Jonathan Ross, and their deeply unfunny prank? 

Videostar
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Saint:

It is such a tradgedy

I'm sure those who played the prank are mostly good people and are horrified

And lets hope they are soon jobless and horrified.

yup I agree. . playing pranks should only ever be done when you know all, and I mean all, as in knowing them very very well, about the person you are playing a prank on. . this stoopid style of infantile behaviour that seems to delight Dj's is irresponsible to say the least..  clearly there was other things going on in that poor nurses life/head and this prank obviously tipped her over the edge. . apparently it was 5.30 in the morning .. regardless of this other outcome did they expect them to wake Kate up for a chat after she'd been puking for days. . that in itself was outrageous  ..they should have put the phone down when they realised they had got thru the security and could possibly be put thru to a sleeping patient. .idiots..

 

I hope those infantile DJ's  grow up a little after this awful side effect of their 'pranks' .. 

Hear hear.

Videostar
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

I hate this kind of radio anyway, remember Russell (unfunny) Bland and Jonathan Ross, and their deeply unfunny prank? 

Yep - another gross over reaction by the GBP

Yep, because telling a grand father about his grand daughter's sexual past and asking him not to kill himself over it wasn't all that bad was it, just jolly japes.

Videostar
Originally Posted by liverbird:
Originally Posted by Rexi:

I agree Pirate and Kaffs. 

 

the media have been 'pranking' for years ... think Candid Camera and Game for a Laugh

Couldn't stand either of those programmes! As Janet Street Porter said today she thought that sort of prank had gone out in the 80's!

 

 

It did, but no one ever accused the Aussies of keeping up with the times.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

I hate this kind of radio anyway, remember Russell (unfunny) Bland and Jonathan Ross, and their deeply unfunny prank? 

Yep - another gross over reaction by the GBP

Yep, because telling a grand father about his grand daughter's sexual past and asking him not to kill himself over it wasn't all that bad was it, just jolly japes.

Like everything else, it's horses for courses - there were a handful of complaints.   then the DM got involved and people who hadn't even heard it were complaining just because they don't like the people involved - and it just got stupid.         Likewise, as tragic as this girl's suicide is (and we only assume it's linked to the 'prank' remember) where were all the 'off with their heads' comments yesterday, or this morning?   There were none.... yes, maybe a few 'that's not really funny' comments, but nothing like the venom and outrage that's been voiced since the news broke.   What they did hasn't changed in the space of that news bulletin.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

I hate this kind of radio anyway, remember Russell (unfunny) Bland and Jonathan Ross, and their deeply unfunny prank? 

Yep - another gross over reaction by the GBP

Yep, because telling a grand father about his grand daughter's sexual past and asking him not to kill himself over it wasn't all that bad was it, just jolly japes.

Like everything else, it's horses for courses - there were a handful of complaints.   then the DM got involved and people who hadn't even heard it were complaining just because they don't like the people involved - and it just got stupid.         Likewise, as tragic as this girl's suicide is (and we only assume it's linked to the 'prank' remember) where were all the 'off with their heads' comments yesterday, or this morning?   There were none.... yes, maybe a few 'that's not really funny' comments, but nothing like the venom and outrage that's been voiced since the news broke.   What they did hasn't changed in the space of that news bulletin.


I wasn't and still am not "off with their heads", but I was and still am, sack the pair of unfunny fraudsters, and possible police involvment,  I'd like to see them laugh then,I had this opinion before todays news .

 

Im sure the nurse had other things going on in her head before this,  however this deeply unfunny joke and the worldwide embarrassment caused to this woman probably didn't help.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

Agree ...................a bit of fun 'gone wrong'. This suicide is indeed a tragedy but there is probably more to it.

 

I know security was breached but ....it was just a prank. Pranks have been a staple of TV and radio for years - it would be a sad old world if we couldn't have a laugh wouldn't it?

 

TBH - I feel a tad sorry for the DJ's. I don't see that they can be held responsible for this nurses very sad and tragic decision.

I don't believe the DJ's set out to cause malice nor expected or wanted what followed.

Cosmopolitan

2Day FM: Same Station Behind Nurse Suicide Tricked 14-Year-Old Into Revealing Rape In 2009

Earlier this week, on December 4, two hosts from Sydney’s 2Day FM radio station contrived a prank where they phoned the London hospital in whichKate Middleton had been staying and imitated members of the British royal family in order to elicit information from staff who happily transferred them to someone else who happily revealed confidential information.

The nurse who transferred the call has committed suicide three days later (incidentally, a statement from the hospital revealed that the nurse had not been punished for her mistake and the hospital bosses were standing behind their staff in support). The nurse who transferred the call is said to have felt “very lonely and confused” in the aftermath of the prank though, so the married mother-of-two killed herself.

Hosts Mel Greig and Michael Christian have since removed themselves from the airwaves, were subsequently fired, deleted their respective Twitter feeds that contained mostly hate mail, the station itself is preparing a statementand its feed is also full of hate mail.

Greig and Christian are reportedly “deeply shocked” that their prank was the catalyst for someone’s death.

Southern Cross Austereo, the company that owns the station, has released a statement saying, “SCA and 2Day FM are deeply saddened by the tragic news of the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha from King Edward VII’s Hospital. SCA and the hosts have decided that they will not return to their radio show until further notice out of respect for what can only be described as a tragedy.”

In its reporting of the suicide, the BBC notes “Radio station 2Day FM has previously been in troubleâ€Ķ when a 14-year-old girl revealed on air that she had been raped.” It’s true, Sydney’s 2Day FM was in similar hot water in 2009 when another live on-air prank went wrong and they bullied a minor into revealing a rape that happened two-years prior.

Different hosts, the famed Kyle and Jackie O, questioned the 14-year-old girl live on air under the guise of a gag “lie detector” that was really encouraged by her own mother. Agitated when asked whether she’d had sex, the girl revealed that she had been raped age 12. The hosts minimised the sexual violence as a sexual experience and asked the girl: “Rightâ€Ķ is that the only experience you’ve had?”

Kyle and Jackie O’s Lie Detector segment turned to disaster today when a 14-year-old girl [who had been] dragged on the 2Day FM radio show by her mother angrily revealed she had been raped.

The girl, who had been brought on to undergo a lie detector test about her mother’s concerns about her drug and sex experience, told Kyle Sandilands before the questions started: “I’m scaredâ€Ķ it’s not fair.”

The mother told the presenters she was worried about her daughter’s use of drugs and partying, before going on to ask the teenager if she ever skipped school.

The mother then asked her daughter: “Have you ever had sex?”

The 14-year-old replied: “I’ve already told you the story about this and don’t look at me and smile because it’s not funny.” After a pause she then raised her voice and said: “Oh OK â€Ķ I got raped when I was 12 years old.”

Sandilands hesitated before asking “Rightâ€Ķ is that the only experience you’ve had?”

The girl’s mother interrupted, saying she found out about the rape only “a couple of months ago”.

Jackie O then said they would drop the lie detector test as they had been unaware of the rape incident.

An Australian Communications and Media Authority spokesman said it had received “several” phone calls and written letters of complaint about the segment. - via The Sydney Morning Herald.

The prank was criticised as “insensitive” and it required an investigation that was supported by the deputy prime minister. Also as a result of the prank,  2Day FM were the victims of a bomb threat made by someone who was angry about the lie detector incident.

stonks

This is very sad but i agree with Ditty, if it was suicide then she chose to leave her two children without a mother, those poor kids Has it been confirmed that it was suicide btw? It didn't say anything about it being suicide on the 10 o'clock news last night.

 

I too would like to know if she had mental health problems prior or some other distressing situation going on in her personal life, it all seems a little iffy to me.

Jen-Star

What a tragic story. I saw this story unfold in the news this week.

Imo, the hoaxers should not be blamed here. Yes, they did the prank call etc, but the hospital should have had in place procedures concering royals and incoming phone calls. They obviously did not and the hoax call went through.

 

I can imagine, the world will now be watching this story and the 2 hoaxers will be treated with more contempt than they actually deserve.

 

Bottom line, Jacintha Saldanha, for whatever reason, decided to take her own life over this. DJ's, Mel Greig and Michael Christian, were not to blame.

Angel

a bit off topic but this just shocked me!

 

It is not the first time the station has been condemned. In 2009, the Australian Communications and Media Authority imposed a licence condition for five years ordering 2Day FM to provide increased protection for children after a 14-year-old was attached to a lie detector test and admitted to being raped live on air.

Jen-Star
Originally Posted by Jenstar:

a bit off topic but this just shocked me!

 

It is not the first time the station has been condemned. In 2009, the Australian Communications and Media Authority imposed a licence condition for five years ordering 2Day FM to provide increased protection for children after a 14-year-old was attached to a lie detector test and admitted to being raped live on air.

Did you read the full report up there though Jen?

 

 a 14-year-old girl [who had been] dragged on the 2Day FM radio show by her mother

The mother then asked her daughter: “Have you ever had sex?”

The 14-year-old replied: “I’ve already told you the story about this and don’t look at me and smile because it’s not funny.” After a pause she then raised her voice and said: “Oh OK â€Ķ I got raped when I was 12 years old.”



Just who's the guilty part in that one?

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Angel:

What a tragic story. I saw this story unfold in the news this week.

Imo, the hoaxers should not be blamed here. Yes, they did the prank call etc, but the hospital should have had in place procedures concering royals and incoming phone calls. They obviously did not and the hoax call went through.

 

I can imagine, the world will now be watching this story and the 2 hoaxers will be treated with more contempt than they actually deserve.

 

Bottom line, Jacintha Saldanha, for whatever reason, decided to take her own life over this. DJ's, Mel Greig and Michael Christian, were not to blame.

I agree with all this - they didn't expect for one second to put through, never mind be given any information.     Not being that funny in the opinion of some people wasn't a hanging offence last time I looked.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Jenstar:

a bit off topic but this just shocked me!

 

It is not the first time the station has been condemned. In 2009, the Australian Communications and Media Authority imposed a licence condition for five years ordering 2Day FM to provide increased protection for children after a 14-year-old was attached to a lie detector test and admitted to being raped live on air.

Did you read the full report up there though Jen?

 

 a 14-year-old girl [who had been] dragged on the 2Day FM radio show by her mother

The mother then asked her daughter: “Have you ever had sex?”

The 14-year-old replied: “I’ve already told you the story about this and don’t look at me and smile because it’s not funny.” After a pause she then raised her voice and said: “Oh OK â€Ķ I got raped when I was 12 years old.”



Just who's the guilty part in that one?

That would be the mother then. I hadn't read that Kaffy just read that bit pasted on a news site this morning

Jen-Star
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Jenstar:

a bit off topic but this just shocked me!

 

It is not the first time the station has been condemned. In 2009, the Australian Communications and Media Authority imposed a licence condition for five years ordering 2Day FM to provide increased protection for children after a 14-year-old was attached to a lie detector test and admitted to being raped live on air.

Did you read the full report up there though Jen?

 

 a 14-year-old girl [who had been] dragged on the 2Day FM radio show by her mother

The mother then asked her daughter: “Have you ever had sex?”

The 14-year-old replied: “I’ve already told you the story about this and don’t look at me and smile because it’s not funny.” After a pause she then raised her voice and said: “Oh OK â€Ķ I got raped when I was 12 years old.”



Just who's the guilty part in that one?

That would be the mother then. I hadn't read that Kaffy just read that bit pasted on a news site this morning

Shocking isnt' it?    .... and yet from what I see it's the radio station that's getting pilloried for it.   Look at what is says in the editorial too  "they bullied a minor into revealing a rape that happened two-years prior."    As if they KNEW about it - they didn't, but the mother who was driving it did.  

Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Jenstar:

That would be the mother then. I hadn't read that Kaffy just read that bit pasted on a news site this morning

Shocking isnt' it?    .... and yet from what I see it's the radio station that's getting pilloried for it.   Look at what is says in the editorial too  "they bullied a minor into revealing a rape that happened two-years prior."    As if they KNEW about it - they didn't, but the mother who was driving it did.  

Poor girl Her 'mother' sounds great

Jen-Star

At times like this, the British press makes me thoroughly sick.

 

How the press can try to claim the radio station is responsible is beyond me. 

 

It's the British press that whipped up an indignant angry mob supposedly on royalty's behalf.  Totally unneeded and unwanted.  It is the British press that made a mountain out of a molehill.  Prank calling is a routine part of radio. 

 

The Mirror today wrote that this is the last thing "Kate needs".  Well stuff Kate, she's an irrelevance.  A woman in a caring profession felt so vilified she killed herself.  Vilified by our bloody press.

Carnelian

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