Ahem... as you were..
Ah... just read above.... Mary has this line of questioning under control then!
Ahem... as you were..
Ahem... as you were..
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Ah... just read above.... Mary has this line of questioning under control then!
Ahem... as you were..
I wonder how many others hate Lizzie. I'm tempted to make a thread on it actually...
quote:Originally posted by j0anne:
dit ditdit dooooh dahhhhhh
I went out with a bloke in the Royal Signals once.... he used to talk in dit dit language to me when he had the hump!!!!quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Ah... just read above.... Mary has this line of questioning under control then!
Ahem... as you were..
I wonder how many others hate Lizzie. I'm tempted to make a thread on it actually...
Go on... go on.... I bet we can find some sort of significant trend... either dependant on age... or, even better... fans of a certain bb hm all LIKE lizzie... Fans of a different bb hm DISLIKE lizze!
POLL!!
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Ah... just read above.... Mary has this line of questioning under control then!
Ahem... as you were..
I wonder how many others hate Lizzie. I'm tempted to make a thread on it actually...
Go on... go on.... I bet we can find some sort of significant trend... either dependant on age... or, even better... fans of a certain bb hm all LIKE lizzie... Fans of a different bb hm DISLIKE lizze!
POLL!!
Ooh g'wan then, I'll be brave
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Ah... just read above.... Mary has this line of questioning under control then!
Ahem... as you were..
I wonder how many others hate Lizzie. I'm tempted to make a thread on it actually...
Go on... go on.... I bet we can find some sort of significant trend... either dependant on age... or, even better... fans of a certain bb hm all LIKE lizzie... Fans of a different bb hm DISLIKE lizze!
POLL!!
Ooh g'wan then, I'll be brave
You'll get jumped on
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Ah... just read above.... Mary has this line of questioning under control then!
Ahem... as you were..
I wonder how many others hate Lizzie. I'm tempted to make a thread on it actually...
Go on... go on.... I bet we can find some sort of significant trend... either dependant on age... or, even better... fans of a certain bb hm all LIKE lizzie... Fans of a different bb hm DISLIKE lizze!
POLL!!
Ooh g'wan then, I'll be brave
You'll get jumped on
I've done it now.
Oh dear.
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
Hmmmm.... My only awareness of the whole Lizzie thing is my daughter molly coming home LIVID from school.... because she got a rollocking in english because when her teacher said "..and we like Lizzie because..." Molly put her hand up and said "I don't like Lizzie".
She was told this was wrong.. everybody liked Lizzie... end of!!
Was funny to then hear that Mary's none to keen either!
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
Hmmmm.... My only awareness of the whole Lizzie thing is my daughter molly coming home LIVID from school.... because she got a rollocking in english because when her teacher said "..and we like Lizzie because..." Molly put her hand up and said "I don't like Lizzie".
She was told this was wrong.. everybody liked Lizzie... end of!!
Was funny to then hear that Mary's none to keen either!
It was the same for me!
My teacher was saying something positive about her, and why she's such a good character and I said "I really don't like her. She's so irritating, I wish she wasn't in it." and there was a collective gasp from everyone in my class as if I'd blasphemed in church and my teacher looked so shocked
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
Hmmmm.... My only awareness of the whole Lizzie thing is my daughter molly coming home LIVID from school.... because she got a rollocking in english because when her teacher said "..and we like Lizzie because..." Molly put her hand up and said "I don't like Lizzie".
She was told this was wrong.. everybody liked Lizzie... end of!!
Was funny to then hear that Mary's none to keen either!
The trouble with A levels Ditty, is that you are more or less forced to go with the accepted interpretation. IE Lizzie is likeable...when in fact she's a stroppy, po-faced cah!
Add to that: All Austens's heroines are flawed in one way or another
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
Hmmmm.... My only awareness of the whole Lizzie thing is my daughter molly coming home LIVID from school.... because she got a rollocking in english because when her teacher said "..and we like Lizzie because..." Molly put her hand up and said "I don't like Lizzie".
She was told this was wrong.. everybody liked Lizzie... end of!!
Was funny to then hear that Mary's none to keen either!
The trouble with A levels Ditty, is that you are more or less forced to go with the accepted interpretation. IE Lizzie is likeable...when in fact she's a stroppy, po-faced cah!
I was worrying my daughters comment in Mary's thread may have been a little 'strong'... but perhaps not!quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
Hmmmm.... My only awareness of the whole Lizzie thing is my daughter molly coming home LIVID from school.... because she got a rollocking in english because when her teacher said "..and we like Lizzie because..." Molly put her hand up and said "I don't like Lizzie".
She was told this was wrong.. everybody liked Lizzie... end of!!
Was funny to then hear that Mary's none to keen either!
The trouble with A levels Ditty, is that you are more or less forced to go with the accepted interpretation. IE Lizzie is likeable...when in fact she's a stroppy, po-faced cah!
Aaah! The benefits of being out of the education system...you can have an opinion
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I always thought Lizzie a pain in the backside, but put her in her own time, not ours. She doesn't conform to ideal young ladyhood
Hmmmm.... My only awareness of the whole Lizzie thing is my daughter molly coming home LIVID from school.... because she got a rollocking in english because when her teacher said "..and we like Lizzie because..." Molly put her hand up and said "I don't like Lizzie".
She was told this was wrong.. everybody liked Lizzie... end of!!
Was funny to then hear that Mary's none to keen either!
The trouble with A levels Ditty, is that you are more or less forced to go with the accepted interpretation. IE Lizzie is likeable...when in fact she's a stroppy, po-faced cah!
Ahah, noo way! I actually laughed out loud because it's exactly what I think.
I do remember in one lesson I referred to her as 'a bint' and my teacher got SO angry
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
Add to that: All Austens's heroines are flawed in one way or another
.. JANE AUSTEN. She was a bitter, jealous, crazy woman. All her books go on about how if you actually like to have a life then you should go to hell. Just 'cause she was an ugly hag with no friends.
grrrr
quote:Originally posted by momomossop:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
Add to that: All Austens's heroines are flawed in one way or another
.. JANE AUSTEN. She was a bitter, jealous, crazy woman. All her books go on about how if you actually like to have a life then you should go to hell. Just 'cause she was an ugly hag with no friends.
grrrr
She loves to repeat her points a lot of times as well.
OMG! I've given life to a monster!!!
quote:Originally posted by momomossop:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
Add to that: All Austens's heroines are flawed in one way or another
.. JANE AUSTEN. She was a bitter, jealous, crazy woman. All her books go on about how if you actually like to have a life then you should go to hell. Just 'cause she was an ugly hag with no friends.
grrrr
Hmmmm... I'm beginning to understand the uneasy atmosphere on parents night, when seeing her English teacher!
That and being shown the 'filth' that had been conviscated during term (Irvine Welsh's Acid House!)
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Hmmmm... I'm beginning to understand the uneasy atmosphere on parents night, when seeing her English teacher!
I remember having a big row with my daughter's English Teacher...told her she should have read the book before she came out with daft comments
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
That and being shown the 'filth' that had been conviscated during term (Irvine Welsh's Acid House!)
Books get confiscated?!
Tell her to move to my college, my teacher encourages all sorts of books. She put on an assembly about The Catcher in the Rye and I had to read an extract with tons of swearing in and she made me make signs with 'f you' on them and put them round the hall.
Apart from loving Jane Austen, she's a legend. All my English teachers are the same really, they let you do anything.
The evening she gave us the Irvine Welsh book back she had managed to find the page with the most swearing and profanity in it.
I defended her reading it... reading is reading... and Welsh is a good author imo.
But I did get how it may be shocking to some... and thought her English teacher to be one of these sensitive souls.
The following year... her teacher did "A Taste of Honey" & "A Kind of Loving"....
with more graphic discussions than even I would take part in!
I defended her reading it... reading is reading... and Welsh is a good author imo.
But I did get how it may be shocking to some... and thought her English teacher to be one of these sensitive souls.
The following year... her teacher did "A Taste of Honey" & "A Kind of Loving"....
with more graphic discussions than even I would take part in!
I think it's different at college to staying on at school Mary. My daughter certainly thought so. 
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
The evening she gave us the Irvine Welsh book back she had managed to find the page with the most swearing and profanity in it.
I defended her reading it... reading is reading... and Welsh is a good author imo.
But I did get how it may be shocking to some... and thought her English teacher to be one of these sensitive souls.
The following year... her teacher did "A Taste of Honey" & "A Kind of Loving"....
with more graphic discussions than even I would take part in!
Madness!
I really want to be an English teacher, but one of those really cool ones that everyone loves.
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I think it's different at college to staying on at school Mary. My daughter certainly thought so.
Do you mean sixth form by staying on at school? 'Cause I did that but I just call it college
I think you'd make a fab English teacher.
My frustrations with the teacher Mo has had is her blinkered view of what is good literature... and what is junk.
To me... whatever sparks the kids interests is good. Is even harder with my son. Mo started to get into books in primary school... with the Jaqueline Wilson books. There is no equivelent to these for boys.
I have been tempted to try and delve into the mind of 8-11 yr old boys to try to come up with something that gets them hooked. Is a dark and murky place though... their minds... not sure there is a book there tbh!
My frustrations with the teacher Mo has had is her blinkered view of what is good literature... and what is junk.
To me... whatever sparks the kids interests is good. Is even harder with my son. Mo started to get into books in primary school... with the Jaqueline Wilson books. There is no equivelent to these for boys.
I have been tempted to try and delve into the mind of 8-11 yr old boys to try to come up with something that gets them hooked. Is a dark and murky place though... their minds... not sure there is a book there tbh!
quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I think it's different at college to staying on at school Mary. My daughter certainly thought so.
Do you mean sixth form by staying on at school? 'Cause I did that but I just call it college
No Mary, my daugher left school (she couldn't stand the place) and went to an actual sixth form college for her A levels
quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
The evening she gave us the Irvine Welsh book back she had managed to find the page with the most swearing and profanity in it.
I defended her reading it... reading is reading... and Welsh is a good author imo.
But I did get how it may be shocking to some... and thought her English teacher to be one of these sensitive souls.
The following year... her teacher did "A Taste of Honey" & "A Kind of Loving"....
with more graphic discussions than even I would take part in!
Madness!
I really want to be an English teacher, but one of those really cool ones that everyone loves.
You'll have to invest in a floaty skirt and beads
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
I think you'd make a fab English teacher.
My frustrations with the teacher Mo has had is her blinkered view of what is good literature... and what is junk.
To me... whatever sparks the kids interests is good. Is even harder with my son. Mo started to get into books in primary school... with the Jaqueline Wilson books. There is no equivelent to these for boys.
I have been tempted to try and delve into the mind of 8-11 yr old boys to try to come up with something that gets them hooked. Is a dark and murky place though... their minds... not sure there is a book there tbh!
I've always adored books. I was a right snob about them in my first school and refused to read ANY that they offered me in year 1 because they only had one word so I had to read all the ones for the older kids and by the time I left the school I'd read every book there
I blame my mother for reading my LOTR when I was about 3
And that's a shame
There don't seem to be a lot of boy based books for 8-11s.quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
You'll have to invest in a floaty skirt and beads
I KNEW IT!! I knew that was part of English Teacher training!
I have to go now, have to make some dinner before Primeval 
See you tomorrow
See you tomorrow
Bye KT xxx
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I think it's different at college to staying on at school Mary. My daughter certainly thought so.
Do you mean sixth form by staying on at school? 'Cause I did that but I just call it college
No Mary, my daugher left school (she couldn't stand the place) and went to an actual sixth form college for her A levels
Ah that must be quite nice. I find it really weird still being in sixth form but having people from lower school around. It makes the sixth formers a bit more of a family though.
Does she like it there better?
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I have to go now, have to make some dinner before Primeval
See you tomorrow
Night KT
See you later.
quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:
:
And that's a shame
I'm sure lots of ppl would say there are books for 8-11 year olds. But there is nothing that grabs them in.... not like the first time Molly read a Jaqueline Wilson.. she lost all sense of time... cryed, laughed etc.
In terms of reading for pleasure my boy will read the sports pages of any newspaper, the text when using computers and game play etc. And football magazines, oh and the odd factual book (space & planets & stuff). To me... this is all good. But he's yet to really get engrossed in a book.
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by mary_bee:
:
And that's a shame
I'm sure lots of ppl would say there are books for 8-11 year olds. But there is nothing that grabs them in.... not like the first time Molly read a Jaqueline Wilson.. she lost all sense of time... cryed, laughed etc.
In terms of reading for pleasure my boy will read the sports pages of any newspaper, the text when using computers and game play etc. And football magazines, oh and the odd factual book (space & planets & stuff). To me... this is all good. But he's yet to really get engrossed in a book.
I found a greeeat book at my friend's once, it was all about space and planets and people asked questions about what happened and weird details about space and then a man answered them, it was fab.
Has he looked at His Dark Materials and all those Philip Pullman books?
Molly loves all those books!!
I'm not sure whether the boy would be up to them yet. In a way... the text needs to be well within his comfort zone, so he can forget about the mechanism of reading... and get into the book.
He has tried all her Harry Potters. He hasn't tried the PUllman books, or Garath Nix or Malorie Blackmans...
I may have a rummage actually... see if I can try him again with one of those. Mister Monday perhaps.
I'm not sure whether the boy would be up to them yet. In a way... the text needs to be well within his comfort zone, so he can forget about the mechanism of reading... and get into the book.
He has tried all her Harry Potters. He hasn't tried the PUllman books, or Garath Nix or Malorie Blackmans...
I may have a rummage actually... see if I can try him again with one of those. Mister Monday perhaps.
