Kaytee posted:You've got to go back to the times....crippled by reparations with a government that made life terrible for most, they were ready to swallow another ideology...and most did....
yes, I realised after I typed it, the tools were never there to question propaganda in the 30's 
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:The hard left is just as bad....two sides of the same coin
the Labour Party wasn't hard left...JC isn't and never was anti-semetic or a racist
Not talking about the UK.....in any colour of political belief
Baz posted:A lot of the trouble issued from the carving up of countries after WW1
yes very much so - the treaty of versaille treated Germany very badly
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:The hard left is just as bad....two sides of the same coin
the Labour Party wasn't hard left...JC isn't and never was anti-semetic or a racist
Yep, it's the way he was portrayed/smeared by the right wing press and others.
Kaytee posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:Tbf....the families were probably indoctrinated too
yes, but I would like to think I would have thought differently if it were my child, maybe because I never take things at face value
You've got to go back to the times....crippled by reparations with a government that made life terrible for most, they were ready to swallow another ideology...and most did....
Yes, most extremism has its roots deep in economics ....
Kaytee posted:Not talking about the UK.....in any colour of political belief
on that we can agree
Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes very much so - the treaty of versaille treated Germany very badly
nothing changes, stronger countries had the upper hand
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:You've got to go back to the times....crippled by reparations with a government that made life terrible for most, they were ready to swallow another ideology...and most did....
yes, I realised after I typed it, the tools were never there to question propaganda in the 30's
but TBF we have today I think sometimes however well informed people are its simply an idea gaining support and power by winning hearts and minds
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:You've got to go back to the times....crippled by reparations with a government that made life terrible for most, they were ready to swallow another ideology...and most did....
yes, I realised after I typed it, the tools were never there to question propaganda in the 30's
No...and economically they were very innovative and socially successful if you were of Aryan stock, so no wonder people in general were quite happy
it's extremely sad...not a bit of wonder I'm a pacifist 
Baz posted:Kaytee posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:Tbf....the families were probably indoctrinated too
yes, but I would like to think I would have thought differently if it were my child, maybe because I never take things at face value
You've got to go back to the times....crippled by reparations with a government that made life terrible for most, they were ready to swallow another ideology...and most did....
Yes, most extremism has its roots deep in economics ....
yes Germany was at a low ebb and Hitler won hearts and minds
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:Not talking about the UK.....in any colour of political belief
on that we can agree
Absolutely ð
Kaytee posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:You've got to go back to the times....crippled by reparations with a government that made life terrible for most, they were ready to swallow another ideology...and most did....
yes, I realised after I typed it, the tools were never there to question propaganda in the 30's
No...and economically they were very innovative and socially successful if you were of Aryan stock, so no wonder people in general were quite happy
Yes
Dame_Ann_Average posted:it's extremely sad...not a bit of wonder I'm a pacifist
In those immortal words.....War, what is it good for?.........absolutely nothing!
Dame_Ann_Average posted:it's extremely sad...not a bit of wonder I'm a pacifist
As am I....until someone tries to blow me up
Kaytee posted:No...and economically they were very innovative and socially successful if you were of Aryan stock, so no wonder people in general were quite happy
totally agree, Rachel Riley reckons she's of Aryan stock 
Kaytee posted:As am I....until someone tries to blow me up
ah but that is defending yourself...although see me fecking run if someone lobs a hand grenade 
Sorry, MrY was chatting to me and I got distracted
that boat needs fixed 
Baz posted:Wow , that ship
Amazing that the crew survived
Yogi19 posted:Sorry, MrY was chatting to me and I got distracted
Baz posted:When you look at it the French suffer up royally
There was a brilliant quote from a reader in the Guardian the other day......apparently France and Italy are having a diplomatic ding dong....this guy said 'wonder what happens if the French surrender and the Italians retreat'
Kaytee posted:Baz posted:When you look at it the French suffer up royally
There was a brilliant quote from a reader in the Guardian the other day......apparently France and Italy are having a diplomatic ding dong....this guy said 'wonder what happens if the French surrender and the Italians retreat'
Kaytee posted:Baz posted:When you look at it the French suffer up royally
There was a brilliant quote from a reader in the Guardian the other day......apparently France and Italy are having a diplomatic ding dong....this guy said 'wonder what happens if the French surrender and the Italians retreat'
ROFL
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:No...and economically they were very innovative and socially successful if you were of Aryan stock, so no wonder people in general were quite happy
totally agree, Rachel Riley reckons she's of Aryan stock
Depends on whether she's naturally blonde with blue eyesð
wow the adulation of all those people - scary
where was a grassy knoll when you need one
Kaytee posted:Depends on whether she's naturally blonde with blue eyesð
I'm not likely to find out...
He was treated like royalty
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:As am I....until someone tries to blow me up
ah but that is defending yourself...although see me fecking run if someone lobs a hand grenade
I'd be like Zola Budd tbhð
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:Depends on whether she's naturally blonde with blue eyesð
I'm not likely to find out...
Me neitherð....I'd check out Brad Pitt thoughð
