@Dame_Ann_Average posted:what were they mining, I missed it?
they mentioned Gold I think Dammee or uranium
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:it does Kaytee
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Was it only the Jewish prisoners they sent there?
what memories to have to go through life with
@Kaytee posted:Was it only the Jewish prisoners they sent there?
no Kaytee, a lot of the Americans weren't Jewish. Maybe it was Jews to begin with
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:what memories to have to go through life with
Yes My dad used to have nightmares about his time towards the end of his life âĶ.
@Baz posted:Yes
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:no Kaytee, a lot of the Americans weren't Jewish. Maybe it was Jews to begin with
I think they aimed to send the American Jewish soldiers Dame âĶ..which was why they asked their religion âĶ..but they ended up taking any soldier who even looked Jewish
@Baz posted:Yes, I think soKayteeâĶ..although the doctor guy was Mexican
I think they were just captured prisoners from the battle Baz ... they asked them their religion when they got there
@Baz posted:I think they aimed to send the American Jewish soldiers Dame âĶ..which was why they asked their religion âĶ..but they ended up taking any soldier who even looked Jewish
yes I know Baz, but they were already there whatever their religion 
googled Metz - he got shot and left in the woods before he could kill the American Robert Zussman in 1944
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:yes I know Baz, but they were already there whatever their religion
But these were the first load of soldiers sent there I think âĶ.
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:googled Metz - he got shot and left in the woods before he could kill the American Robert Zussman in 1944
@Baz posted:But these were the first load of soldiers sent there I think âĶ.
yes, I did say it could have been originally a jewish camp until the GI's got there
@Kaytee posted:Thanks BazâĶ.they said earlier that his looks decided them that he was Jewish
yes they did at the beginning
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:googled Metz - he got shot and left in the woods before he could kill the American Robert Zussman in 1944
thanks Ros, wasn't him then....he collaborated and got twenty years, I don't think he served half of it before he was released 
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
yes, I did say it could have been originally a jewish camp until the GI's got there
yes I that impression then separated the Jews and made further judgements if they looked Jewish
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:googled Metz - he got shot and left in the woods before he could kill the American Robert Zussman in 1944
Good!he came to the sticky end he deserved âĪïļâĪïļ
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes I that impression then separated the Jews and made further judgements if they looked Jewish
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes I that impression then separated the Jews and made further judgements if they looked Jewish
Me too RosâĪïļ
@Kaytee posted:Good!he came to the sticky end he deserved âĪïļâĪïļ
yes thought that as well kaytee
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
You were right Dame âĶ.I just googled Berga camp âĶ. Ros must have found another Metz âĶ
@Baz posted:You were right Dame âĶ.I just googled Berga camp âĶ. Ros must have found another Metz âĶ
He abused American POWs and forced them into hard labor, especially Jewish-Americans. When Robert Zussman is captured in December 1944, he is taken to a German Labor camp and is interrogated by Metz on which Prisoners are Jewish. When Zussman refuses to comply, he is beaten and put on a train to a Labor camp. On April 4th, 1945, after the 1st Infantry Division has been searching for Zussman for Months, they find the camp he is being held at and witness the gross atrocities that Metz and his men have committed against the Jewish Prisoners.
When Pierson finds a trail leading out of the camp, they realize the Nazis led the prisoners on a death march, leading Daniels and Pierson to head deep into the forest to find Zussman. Metz soon begins executing prisoners, the gunshots alerting Daniels to his position. Daniels finds Metz throwing Zussman to the ground ready to execute him with his Luger, but Daniels shoots and kills him before he can fire his weapon. His body was left behind in the woods.
this is what I found - so must be another Sergeant Metz - how odd
@Baz posted:You were right Dame âĶ.I just googled Berga camp âĶ. Ros must have found another Metz âĶ
oh so it was him? I couldn't remember what camp he was at, but seen as I didn't know about this it never stuck in my brain, it was just the name I remembered and the sentence...
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
oh so it was him? I couldn't remember what camp he was at, but seen as I didn't know about this it never stuck in my brain, it was just the name I remembered and the sentence...
must have been another metz at another camp -how odd
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:He abused American POWs and forced them into hard labor, especially Jewish-Americans. When Robert Zussman is captured in December 1944, he is taken to a German Labor camp and is interrogated by Metz on which Prisoners are Jewish. When Zussman refuses to comply, he is beaten and put on a train to a Labor camp. On April 4th, 1945, after the 1st Infantry Division has been searching for Zussman for Months, they find the camp he is being held at and witness the gross atrocities that Metz and his men have committed against the Jewish Prisoners.
When Pierson finds a trail leading out of the camp, they realize the Nazis led the prisoners on a death march, leading Daniels and Pierson to head deep into the forest to find Zussman. Metz soon begins executing prisoners, the gunshots alerting Daniels to his position. Daniels finds Metz throwing Zussman to the ground ready to execute him with his Luger, but Daniels shoots and kills him before he can fire his weapon. His body was left behind in the woods.
this is what I found - so must be another Sergeant Metz - how odd
Thanks for the story Dame âĪïļâĪïļ
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:He abused American POWs and forced them into hard labor, especially Jewish-Americans. When Robert Zussman is captured in December 1944, he is taken to a German Labor camp and is interrogated by Metz on which Prisoners are Jewish. When Zussman refuses to comply, he is beaten and put on a train to a Labor camp. On April 4th, 1945, after the 1st Infantry Division has been searching for Zussman for Months, they find the camp he is being held at and witness the gross atrocities that Metz and his men have committed against the Jewish Prisoners.
When Pierson finds a trail leading out of the camp, they realize the Nazis led the prisoners on a death march, leading Daniels and Pierson to head deep into the forest to find Zussman. Metz soon begins executing prisoners, the gunshots alerting Daniels to his position. Daniels finds Metz throwing Zussman to the ground ready to execute him with his Luger, but Daniels shoots and kills him before he can fire his weapon. His body was left behind in the woods.
this is what I found - so must be another Sergeant Metz - how odd
hopefully we will find out at the end Ros
@Kaytee posted:Thanks for the story Dame âĪïļâĪïļ
that was me Kaytee but it was the wrong Metz
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:He abused American POWs and forced them into hard labor, especially Jewish-Americans. When Robert Zussman is captured in December 1944, he is taken to a German Labor camp and is interrogated by Metz on which Prisoners are Jewish. When Zussman refuses to comply, he is beaten and put on a train to a Labor camp. On April 4th, 1945, after the 1st Infantry Division has been searching for Zussman for Months, they find the camp he is being held at and witness the gross atrocities that Metz and his men have committed against the Jewish Prisoners.
When Pierson finds a trail leading out of the camp, they realize the Nazis led the prisoners on a death march, leading Daniels and Pierson to head deep into the forest to find Zussman. Metz soon begins executing prisoners, the gunshots alerting Daniels to his position. Daniels finds Metz throwing Zussman to the ground ready to execute him with his Luger, but Daniels shoots and kills him before he can fire his weapon. His body was left behind in the woods.
this is what I found - so must be another Sergeant Metz - how odd
Very weird Ros 
Hereâs what I found
Berga was run by a reserve army sergeant named Erwin Metz, who was ultimately responsible for the inhumane conditions, and gave the order to take the prisoners on the death march. When the allied forces closed in on the retreating Germans, Metz deserted his post and attempted to escape by bicycle, fearing the consequences of being captured in possession of the remaining Berga prisoners and having to answer for his war crimes. Still, he was captured days after the prisoners were liberated by American forces, and he was sentenced to death, because he had killed a US POW, Pvt Morton Goldstein (Battery C/590th Field Artillery/106 US Division) on March 14, 1945. However, because of the American political climate and the shifting priorities of the American War Department towards defending Western Europe against the Soviets in the lead-up to the Cold War, many German war criminals' sentences were commuted in exchange for intelligence that the Western allies believed could be used against the Soviets. Thus Metz was sentenced to twenty years' imprisonment, though in the end he only served nine years before being released back into Germany as a free man.[4]
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:must have been another metz at another camp -how odd
I may have the wrong Metz or one of the stories isn't true Ros, but I did see a Metz on trial...like I said I can't remember what camp he was at, I just remember it was war crimes
The Metz at this camp must have had a higher rank than Sergeant surelyðĪ
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:hopefully we will find out at the end Ros
tbh hadn't heard of him until tonight dameee - but it must be another metz - prob a common name
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:I may have the wrong Metz or one of the stories isn't true Ros, but I did see a Metz on trial...like I said I can't remember what camp he was at, I just remember it was war crimes
tbh dammmeee - think you are right