I did NOT vote Lib Dem (tactical vote) to see the Tories in power, if I had WANTED the Tories in I would have VOTED for them,
I want to see them try to run the country as a minority government at least that way we will get another election sooner rather than later, bloody sell out Lib Dems, IF they do a "deal" with the filth I will NEVER put my X next them again,

Hiya OHG


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I reckon we only need to keep this going for a month or two


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I wish Laura Kuenssberg would go home.

While we are being random...


Matt Smith or David Tennant?



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OLD HIPPY GUY !!!
I was genuinely wondering where the heck you'd gone to
WELCOME BACK

This will not end well... sorry watching Dr Who..


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hehe HIYA folks, nice to be missed, I pop in now and again, but I have other fishes in the fire....erm other Irons to fry,  other pies in my basket...I am off hehe

Hope to chat soon sometime Old Hippy Guy  - nice to see you again

You can't fry a fish in a kiln!!


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Hiya OHGSee that's the risk with all of this bloody tactical voting that's been going on grrrr....it's not a done deal yet though, surely the Lib Dems have more in common with Labour than the Tories?....See Cameron is now offering some cabinet seats to Clegg, ha ha, he must be getting desperate

I didn't vote LD tactically...   I voted LD as my first choice.

I see all this as a bit Ying & Yang... kinda....




A little bit of Ying in Yang, & a  little bit of Yang in Ying.

Well.... its now down to NC to ensure that if he goes with Ying... there is a bit of Yang in it... or if he goes with Yang... theres a bit of Ying in it.

As I think the current Labour line up needs sorting out...    I am leaning towards a Cons Lib alliance... but there sure as hell needs to be at tangible lib dem flavour to it.

They would be just about neck and neck if the Conservatives formed another alliance, and anyway Labour and Lib Dem would not be able to push through any major legislation without reaching that magic number.

Bloody Hell.. the Ying Yang Monster has arrived



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but there are other Parties in Westminster.  If they all formed an anti Tory alliance, they would have  enough votes to push through  legislatrion ,

Is that Ditty's new nickname?

Thats what I saw earlier... they stopped the interview she was doing.

Kay Burley was heckled by a political activist while presenting live on Sky News this afternoon.

The news anchor is fronting continuous coverage of the general election fallout on location in Westminster, where she has become the target of an angry viewer.

The man disrupted Burley's live links with repeated chants of: "Sack Kay Burley. Watch the BBC. Sky News is shit."

Burley initally responded to the heckling with a smile, telling viewers: "Democracy in action right behind me."

The protestor progressively became more enraged, however, and began shouting anti-Murdoch sentiments. "They don't like The Sun, they don't like us, they don't like Rupert," Burley observed.

Burley was then forced to abandon an interview and cut to a commercial break.

 

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a218879/kay-burley-heckled-live-on-sky-news.html

For PM?

I think PR is the way forward and David Cameron should offer the LIb Dems a referendum. However, if the LD decide to team up with Labour, who not only got fewer seat than the Conservatives, but also 2 million less votes, then what does that say about them? To me it says that they are  no different to the other two parties

Bugger - I missed it. Been watching for most of the day but had to stop and give the house a bit of a clean(got visitors coming). I'd pay good money to see Burley get heckled ....nasty woman that she is.

A Conservative Labour Alliance Party.. THE C.L.A.P. PARTY Just about sums things up I think

Can you explain how it works to Ducky and I then?  Pretty please with sugar on!

Don't tell me you don't know GJ?

I really can't see it happening Baz. But I could be wrong....

Hope that helped

I don't! The only explanation given on here was that MPs who had small majorities might be replaced. Thus the Tory MP who won in my constituency with a majority of 300 might be replaced by a LiB Dem? It makes no sense to me, if they want power they need to appeal to the public and win a few seats.

I hope not Ducky..... but I think it depends on whether they are willing to sell out on the actual *principle* of  PR, for  the  chance to obtain PR. Of course, if it is put to the country, they may not even get their wishes.... and then there would have to be a decision made on whether is should be a single transferable vote system or AV. etc etc....

I understand what you mean.... and I agree....... but I feel the current system does need looking at.  However, it does make me laugh when I hear people saying on TV linking PR with cleaner politics.... cos I  can't see nay link there at all

PR....... in a nutshell.

You give each party a number in order of preference. They only count the first preferences first. If someone gets a majority of the votes, they are automatically elected. They then count the second preferences of all the people who voted for any of the other candidates as their first preference ....PLUS all those that DID vote for the elected as first preference but that took that candidate over and above a majority (as a %).  The candidate that gets the majority of those votes is then also elected.......and they go to the third preference...and on it goes until all seats are filled in that constituency.

At any point if no one gets a majority the next preference is then taken into account until someone does.

Simple innit.

On the plus side now that the election is over. Siralan is back


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What about the European Parliament, South Africa, Iraq? etc. etc.

no brainer!

LOL.... well done Ducky....I THINK... that is the Alternate Vote PR... but I am not totally sure

I think it would lead to more negotiation rather than point scoring. Well that's the theory anyway. Our lot have behaved like kids in a playground for so long it's hard to see them growing up anytime soon though.

Do you think LD are different then Baz?   Genuinely interested.... its not a confrontational question!

Will we have about 1800 MPs then?

Grrrr.... (at them... not you Ducks)

they should behave like kids on their own time.... and grow up and do what we are paying them to do...

LOL... well I was hoping so Ditty..... I voted for them in the 2 elections before this.....  but am at odds with some of their policies this time, so.......

But that would make it a more effectual government... not a cleaner one

That's the single transferable vote ...and it needs multi-seat constituencies to work. The AV is done just the same but if someone gets a majority (more than 50%) of the vote on first preferences then they and they alone are elected...... if not it follows the STV method until ONE PERSON does have a majority. It means it would be basically the same as now for those places with a large majority..... but would probably change the outcome in closer votes.

I've been studying

Well that's the bit I don't understand yet Joe!

That's why I'm assuming they would have larger constituencies maybe?