you mean.... it isn't true

*Forms queue behind Ms Cariad*

Oh, how I loathe Creationists.

The most pukey defence I've ever seen from a creationist is that God planted fossils to test Christian's faith.

I mean...that's just wilful idiocy.

*Queue-jumps*

Will F Idiocy.  
Excellent.

Who in their right minds believes that clap-trap? Not even established theologians have an issue with evolution ffs...

Haha

Can we fire Dave in the general direction of Alaska?

Next time someone says that to you, use the "Bill Hicks" response:

"Dude: I think you were put here to test my faith!"

Towards Sara Palin? Brilliant idea Lecs.   Right about his mindset.....

Tell a creationist that we share a common ancestory with Apes.  Watch them freak out.

I love Bill Hicks but somehow that one passed me by, thank you!

Indeed, she can show him her evidence for dinosaurs and humans co-existing...and then something about a polar bear attacking them... they can have a nice cup of tea

Of COURSE they coexisted doh!! Didn't anyone see Bardot in her fur bikini...? Of course I'd far rather have seen Palin in a a fur bikini. Only from a comedic point of view you understand? The look of sheer bloody incomprehension on her face would have been Mastercard. 

Hahahahahahahaha

I won't embed it because it contains quite a few sweary words...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...&feature=related


(There's a slight mismatch on the sound too, but nothing fatal.)

Thank you!

Wonder if Dave has a real job?

Dave is a froot loop

So is half of the USA

Yes. Yes, he is.

Hahahaha

It was James Ussher, the Primate of Ireland who in 1860 from his working out dates from the Bible decided that the world was created on 23 October 4004 BC. To most people the early part of the Bible covering the creation, Adam & Eve, Noah's flood are folk legends passed doen the years from geneartion to generation and should be regarded as such. The Creationists' insistence on the world being created in 4004BC just shows a blind refusal to accept scientific fact.

There is alao another thing which the Creationists would have some difficulty eplaining. Genesis has Eve being created from a rib taken from Adam. They had 2 sons Abel and Cain. Cain murdered Abel and so went away to "The Land of Nod". Cain subsequently married and had children.

So where did Cain's wife come from? And presumably there was a lot of incest going on in those early days, which the Creationists can conveniently forget about.

One version is that Cain's wife came from the children of Lilith, I think the bible says he went into the land of Nod and took a wife.

Lilith was the first woman God created at the same time as Adam and was his total equal.   She refused to become subservient to Adam, and when he expected her to "lie beneath him"  she told him where to go and buggered off into the wilderness  where she mated with demons and suchlike.

All the people in Sodom and Gommorah and other cities  of the plains were descended from her.

of course she is omitted from the Christian version of the Bible.....who wants a powerful stroppy female as a role model, when they can have a nice submissive Eve who they can blame all the world's ills on

Also, isn't it strange that people who are so opposed to evolution, go about calling themselves Primates, thus emphasising our relationship with apes

Nah, cos it was Raquel Welch!
Dave's a big fat fraud. I don't think he even believes this stuff himself, it's all part of his scam.

True

I tend to think the same about most members of the clergy.

they don't have to believe it as long as they pretend they do and have a bunch of idiots hanging off their every word..it's a nice quick route for the insignificant to get power over people, which I think is the attraction for gun wielding, "pest" killer Dave

 An old colleague of mine told me he knew someone who got made redundant from his old job and then joined the clergy instead, because it meant job security for life and free accommodation in a nice vicarage. The bloke didn't even believe in god.

   It's for a good reason that Jesus  is often referred to as a shepherd and his followers his flock 

     

Oh well, she clearly made an impact then. It was just before my time anyway - I think! 
Although with hindsight Bardot wouldn't go with fur at all would she? Or was that before she saw the light? 

I tried to Google an image and found this website: 
http://www.mediamatic.net/page/132747/nl

And ta for that Bill Hicks link EL. 

I just get unspeakably narky because Dave and Baldwin spout this unmitigated drivel on TV and no-one takes them to task on it. **stamps feet**

It was before mine as well, thanks!  

Me too!

*** stamps feet ***

Me three! Far as I'm concerned, nobody's crackpot ideas are immune to ridicule, just because there's a supposed deity involved. I hate this idea that religious views can't be criticised. They're just opinions, like all other opinions, and therefore fair game for the same scrutiny.

If you think about it logically, Noah would have had to have built a bliddy big Ark to put pairs of dinosaurs in it.

Why has there been this sudden surge in creationism anyway?

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Christians didn't buy it 10 years or so ago (I do realise that there has always been a minority that did)...it seems to me that there are growing numbers of creationists now...or are they just getting much louder?

same reason there's been a surge in Botox and Fake Boobs

Americans  

 idiots lap up anything they see in US telly programmes

They seem to be Leccy....but then atheism appears to be becoming more vocal as well and I don't know who's kicking off who. Son and his mates are staunch atheists and have very vocal (and largely amiable) "discussions" with the believers amongst their classmates. Not something I ever bothered with when I was in school. 

Maybe it's all kicked off since 911 - religious faith has become a wider social issue - not just a private matter of personal faith. I'm thinking out on a limb here but maybe the more vocal Christian fundamentalist views (which I think were always more prevalent in the US, we just didn't have it much here) were a reaction to the perceived threat from Moslem fundamentalists and maybe from that people like Dawkins et al have become more outspoken to deflect any impact such silly statements like "if we're all descended from chimpanzees how come there are still chimpanzees" might have.

Of course this is probably all just so much bullshit and people just like a good row.

1966 Dem...I just checked. I'd have been 2. 

Depending on when in 1966 it was released I'd have been 1, or still heading for my first birthday

I blame Dumbo Dubya myself - him and all his ilk.

Plus I'm sure I read somewhere that schools in the US are allowed to teach Creationism as a legitimate theory