I think i may watch this.

Thanks for the interesting write up Brisky

You're welcome Evelyn

I would like to comment on the tradition verses extreme punishment of this behaviour, but will wait until i see this programme.

I have seen this programme Brisket. I was shocked, but, not surprised by the hypocrisy of the afghanis' It is quite sad and  left me with a sense of bewilderment at the men who are responsible for this bachabaze to carry on. They have no respect for their wives, and no respect for the young boys.Yet, they (the men) do not think they are doing any wrong whatsoever.

I remember this got a lot of publicity a few years ago, because it was referred-to in the book (and subsequent film) "The Kite Runner"...

Thank you sezit.
I shall watch it tonight.
As Evelyn has said, it is hardly fair to comment until one has seen the programme, but I did hear a report on the World Service a few weeks ago.
Interesting that you describe the men as believing they are doing nothing wrong.
I used the word hypocrisy because I could not see how they could reconcile a practice which their religion tells them is wrong, while still caryying out that practice.
Thanks for your comments. I shall watch it with interest.

Eugene:     thanks.  I shall investigate/research.

Brisket, do watch it. It is one of those programmes that is fascinating and shocking at the same time. I had no idea whatsoever about this practice until watching the C4 programme so it was all the more a revelation to me. I think it was on earlier this year sometime. Anyway, I am sure that you will come back and tell us what you think, I look forward to seeing your comments tomorrow.

I've put more 4 on ready, i think it started at 10.

Halfway through watching - advert break.
I now see the relevance of "The Kite Runner" to which Eugene's Lair referred earlier (^^^)
Back to the programme.

sezit - I agree with your comments above (^^^). I too found it both fascinating and shocking.
It is indeed sad.
Even the United Nations representative said she was met with a stone wall.
There are laws against it, yet they are not enforced.
It was chilling when a father (who later proved to be an 'uncle' said that it would not matter what the boys mother said. She would not be heeded. The father would make the decisions.
It is difficult for me to understand how so many people can reconcile what they say with what they do.
A convicted police office was released in a very short time.
Some of the boys, being abandoned, almost accept their situation and take pride in being a popular dancer and a part of bachabaze.
Then they become too old for their masters.
Some 'bacha' are murdered.
People are aware of  bachabaze and it is virtually regarded as a tradional practice.
But very few talk about it.
It happens, but it is brushed under the carpet.
I thought it was a quite remarkable film. It revealed things I didn't know existed.
It was sad. Very sad.
The masters who possess the bacha are powerful people with money.
Power and money enable it to happen.

Absolutely Brisket.Until his film I don't think people in the west were aware of the practice, and the fact that a lot of the boys when they get too old are murdered, and nothing seems to be done about it, just beggars belief.

This is what i find hard to stomach. Nothing seems to be done about it., when is any changes going to be made ... even a start to some changes in the right direction.
Greed, power, control, all breed from their fears, and they think they can get away with it,

yes get away with murder.

When im in the right frame of mind , i may be rational and calm enough to view it in the right light. At the moment i am not.

Staggering that nothing is done.
Are the rich powerful people responsible for bachabaze so scarey and intimidating.
Scenario:  I ccould visualise if it was this country there would be an outcry - aided and abetted by the News of the World - accusations of paedophilia, and strong threats of lynch mobs and gangs taking the law into their own hands.
But in Afghanistan (where many people fervently follow the laws of Islam) all is mostly quiet.
It is not surprising I am gob-smacked by the hypocrisy and double standards.
I am very glad that I saw the programme and heards the radio programme.

Evelyn. This documentary had the same effect on me when I watched a few months ago.I am still like this about it.