As has been borne out today 

Andy Burnham

Mrs Balls

Chucka Umunna

Dan Jarvis

 

In that case, can I recommend my new thread "The methodology and intrinsic constraints associated with locomotive track materials development 1804-1920 in the north east of the Indian sub continent" 

 

I think he'd be a good choice but not sure he will get it.  They'll probably go for a female this time, I reckon.

I don't think it matters who will lead the Labour Party! I suspect the language of socialism will die with our generation. Having spoken to younger people I conclude that they just don't get it. They haven't experienced the advantages we had and don't understand the idea of an alternative. Zappa described them as "foolish young consumers!"
Shirley Williams gets it! Democracy is for sale in a corporate state. The American model is on the way- one bunch of loony right wingers, and one slightly less right wing bunch.

NO! 

In that case I better go delete it then. 

I've read that.  Riveting stuff.  But the ending really surprised me.  What a shocker!

Quasi correct. I've tried Lederhosen and they really chafe around the lower abdomen area.

People try to spank you as well.

 

I'll be honest I started it but hit the buffers half way through. 

I suppose that is either a good or a bad thing depending on one's proclivities. 

Lose your train of thought?

 

Yes, went off track quite early on. 

  Stoppit!

 

I'll never get to bed at this rate! 

 

Just pull the plug on your computertator!   

 

 

I wonder how many of us need dropping off at the last station? 

Taters....now there's a thing 

First class idea 

Oh!  is that the only way to travel? 

The SNP won it for the Tories.  Labour were ahead in marginals throughout England but the spectre of the SNP militantly trying to syphon off monies and favours for Scotland with no regard for England was more than moderate English voters could bare. 

 

The Scottish left thought it was so, so clever getting rid of the 'Red Tories' but failed to appreciate or even care that English moderate floating voters who were going to vote Labour were pushed in the opposite direction at the last minute.

 

The so-called Scottish left is the reason why we have a Tory government.  I hope they'll have the common decency to think about what they've done as the Tory parasites spend the next five years kicking the poorest.

Yep, he seems to have a certain amount of commitment to his ideals,no doubt I'll be proved wrong once he scales the slippery slope.

 

When the boundary changes come in it's going to get even worse for Labour,can't see  a labour govt. any time soon in the future.

Utter rubbish!  The reason you/we have a Tory government is because your English compatriots voted them in.

Absolutely! People have rejected left wing politics and gone for Nationalists. You wouldn't believe some of the percentages UKIP got in the most unlikely areas.
I got this one wrong, I was convinced an SNP vote would deliver a Tory government. In the end they were irrelevant.
I can't see us ever coming back from this.

I think you're right Joe, once Cameron changes the boundary lines, and with the SNP having a death grip on Scotland until they get the second referendum they want I think this election has been a game changer to end all game changers.

Sadly I agree.   Utterly depressing.

 Shocked at the difference PR would've made - UKIP would be a major force !!!

http://i100.independent.co.uk/...-system--gJenQmaW2gW

 

 

So PR wouldn’t have changed anything significantly for this term? Most Tory policies would still get through endorsed via a strong UKIP representation.

I don't think it would be that straight forward Rog. I think it would still have to reflect (to some degree) the strength of the vote in particular areas.

 

Though having said that, the last chart probably wouldn't be a great deal different - fewer seats for UKIP and a bit more for SNP. Possibly fewer seats for the Lib Dems too, so maybe putting SNP 4th and Lib Dems 5th,

I dunno Fluffy I just read it in the Indo  There are different versions of PR aren't they... its all v complicated!

Cameron will not have an easy ride.  The number of 'bast*rds' skulking on his back benches far outnumber those that plagued John Major

Bast*rds???? Are you suggesting that there are some unscrupulous peeps in Government?

Not me, Fluffy.  If I recall correctly, it was John Major's description of members of his own cabinet!  (Not very often that I agree with a Tory, but on that occasion ... )

It was an ITN interview - which he thought had concluded but was still being recorded. Michael Portillo and Peter Lilley were 2 of those that he was referring to… so such profanity was justified!

 

 

why is there a news blackout about the Dowing Street protesters 

 

 

seems that only the Mirror is reporting it...

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/u...wning-street-5670007

Is there? I haven't heard anything about this!