Yes, I had that thought too 

I hope they manage to get hold of him. Who knows what damage this could do 

can't believe one might have escaped 

I dunno, not much of a martyr if he ran Pam 

No, but he can get in touch with others...

True 

BBC saying all the hostages takers are killed 

The problem with intelligence is that it has to be constantly updated, the terrorists will, like the common cold adapt themselves and keep adapting themselves in an attempt to outthink the security services. Unfortunately it seems that at the moment this will be a never ending process.

It feels that to "like" the cartoons posted earlier is the wrong thing to do, but you have to say they are very good in distilling the situation into one concise image and message.

I have to say that I think the French Police executed those two situations very well.

Uh-oh....news reporting hostages in a jewelry  store in Montpelier 

15 minutes difference though Cologne and four hostages killed 

I agree Col, I don't think we could cope with the same situation as our police force stands now. 

I agree EC, but in this instance they knew they were a huge threat 

They were on UK and USA watchlists but the French didn't put them on theirs despite previous convictions for terrorist activities. They weren't under surveillance because of that apparently

It's not about religion, what binds these people together is the terrorist ideology,the blood lust, they may claim to be Muslim, it's a flag of convenience.

It also motivates non Muslims to despise and hate Muslims, the terrorists would love nothing more than to drag us into a war on their territory.

We have  a battle for the foreseeable to work out how to stop , not very bright young men(mostly) being radicalised by the people that manipulate them.

This I find confusing to say the least 

Me too  

I think it's impossible to predict these things. If a couple of extremists go and shoot everybody in the Private Eye office tomorrow, ppl will say that they should have had police protection two tier deep but that would mean they've won. This hatred goes back to the crusades. We started it. Lets try and solve it.

For Skylark  <---- kissing and making up 

According to Dr Alice Roberts, this goes back to the times of Neanderthals and homosapiens. Maybe it's always been in our make-up and now it's more complex where before it used to be just clubbing each other.

I think I love this guy  

http://www.islam21c.com/specia...se-for-charliehebdo/

Brilliant!   put him in his place 

Thanks Dames,he did a brilliant job.

Velvet D

I can't be there but, for all those starting the Unity March in Paris at 2pm

Je Suis Charlie.........

Excellent eh?    A friend of mine posted it on FB whilst saying to another friend called Richard 'come on then... when are you apologising?!' 

and Je Suis Ahmed...

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/9/75...ie-hebdo-jesuisahmed

Yep. Je suis Ahmed aussi..

The 87 yr old creator of Asterix the Gaul came out of retirement to draw this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/a...rigin=internalSearch

The crowd in Paris were just brilliant; every creed and colour represented.

I thought it was fabulous and very emotional in a good way too. . really inspiring to see all Creeds and Nationalities, not just French, united as one against the terrorist hooligans... 

heres a cheeky f*cker

in alum rock there were notices put on lamposts about 10yrs ago

'no whites'

nobody took any notice

shopkeepers were as friendly as ever

whole cities like Birmingham where no white people go cos they're solely Muslim    *checks self and is deffo not Muslim so think that argument is incorrect*

there was a time in Saltly and Alum Rock when those stickers were on lamp posts and you were challenged but it didn't last long and as Pirate rightly said, the people are friendly.

I remember when I first came to England (Birmingham) I went to school in Saltley (The Rosary) and we always sang Follow the Alum Rock Road to the tune of follow the yellow brick road of the wizard of Oz fame 

Pirate would you like to sign this fake petition to allow non Muslim back into Brum to roam its streets again 

https://www.change.org/p/the-c...e-city-of-birmingham

   I'm struggling to keep a straight face 

More than 150 musicians turned out last night at a few hours’ notice, alerted by Slipped Disc and other social media, to play Samuel Barber’s Adagio on Trafalgar Square in memory of the innocent victims of the Paris massacre. They came from all over London, some from way beyond London, to voice together their sympathy and their outrage. The performance was led by the violinist, Thomas Gould.

Here is an exclusive report from the organiser, Vanessa Lucas-Smith, cellist of the Allegri Quartet.

"Having played on the stage of many prestigious concert halls around the world it is hard to remember a performance that meant as much as tonight’s. Perched on a wall, four to a stand and freezing cold, there was only one work on the programme – Barber’s Adagio for Strings. Having fretted for most of the day as to how many would turn up and play at only a few hours notice – 150 did, at a conservative guess. (Lesson learnt – have more faith in humanity).

These are passionate, caring and generous people, never mind the impressive list of accolades between them (a BBC young musician of the year, orchestral leaders, international chamber musicians). It really is not the point. We were united in cause; one of remembrance, of the shock and horror of the brutality of the Charlie Hebdo massacre, of sadness for the victims and their friends and family and of the determination to stand up for democracy and freedom of expression. Living in these times we need as many reminders as are possible that most people act with love, kindness to others and with generosity of spirit."

http://slippedisc.com/2015/01/...e-for-charlie-hebdo/

(Some of you may remember that following the 9/11 attack, Barber's Adagio was played at the Proms as a tribute.)