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Reference: Baz dont you see the irony of the huge cuts we should expect and the raise in the inheritance tax Yes I do Lockes..... but firstly, I hope that with the Lib Dems on board that wouldn't happen.... and secondly I see the irony of saying that New Labour is a party of the poor, when they have actually widened the gap between rich and poor...... how does that work???

Well Baz I dont know how that works BUT I can only comment on my situ, along with my families who I know for certain are MUCH better of under the Labour Party, as compared to when we were living under a tory Government. The pensioners couldnt afford to heat their homes under the tories, and, correct me if I am wrong but didnt Thatcher tell them to go to bed in a hat and gloves to keep warm.
Lockes
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Well Baz I dont know how that works BUT I can only comment on my situ, along with my families who I know for certain are MUCH better of under the Labour Party, as compared to when we were living under a tory Government. The pensioners couldnt afford to heat their homes under the tories, and, correct me if I am wrong but didnt Thatcher tell them to go to bed in a hat and gloves to keep warm.
And I can only comment on my  (as a pensioner)and my families situation Lockes  But I do find it interesting that people keep on harking back to the Thatcher years.... which were 20 years ago, and forget that Thatcher only got in because Labour and the unions brought the whole country to it's knees in the 1970s, with three day weeks, and constant  power cuts,  etc......
Baz
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Today at 9:51 AM (Last Edited: Reference: when we were living under a tory Government. The pensioners couldnt afford to heat their homes under the tories I know many many pensioners who are really struggling at the moment to heat their homes after 13 years of Labour government.
Tell them to go to bed in a hat and gloves then
Lockes
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them to go to bed in a hat and gloves to keep warm.
Exactly the pensioners get heating allowance now I wonder if  the Tories will take that away from them, perhaps not this winter but would not count on them in the future, if anyone thinks the pensioners will be better under the Tories I hope they  are right but will not hold my breath...
Marguerita
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So, what are you Tories hoping for, Con/Dem Nation, or just the big Con?
Well I can only speak for myself Blizzie, nice of you to ask , but I am hoping that the billions and billions that have been totally wasted can be vastly reduced and we can start to put the money where it belongs in front line services and not bloated administration.  Bye bye ID Card Scheme, bye bye regional assemblies and hopefully most of the quangos too.
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but I am hoping that the billions and billions that have been totally wasted can be vastly reduced and we can start to put the money where it belongs in front line services and not bloated administration. Bye bye ID Card Scheme, bye bye regional assemblies and hopefully most of the quangos too.
Sounds like a plan with merit!
SpiderMonkey
Spider today I went to the dentist.  Nothing unusual about that you say, I go for a checkup every 6 months.  But I had to fill in another patient information sheet.  I said I had only just done one but no now we have to do a new one every six months a requirement from the PCT.  More tick boxes, more red tape.  More common sense please.
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I think we should keep the thread going, as a place to come and sound of when the unemployment levels reach 5 million, and millions of people are thrown into poverty all in the name of the "economy".


Or who knows maybe it s a good soundboard for the richest 3,000 families to come and gloat over how the great Mr Cameron has given them an extra ÂĢ200,000 pound through the inheritance tax
Which of course includes Cameron, same old Tory agenda of the past of look after yourself first.
Yellow Rose
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But I do find it interesting that people keep on harking back to the Thatcher years.... which were 20 years ago, and forget that Thatcher only got in because Labour and the unions brought the whole country to it's knees in the 1970s, with three day weeks, and constant power cuts, etc......
I think the reason for that is that Thatcher destroyed the fabric of this country. We don't have an industry anymore, which isn't just about jobs, but also about communities. She beleived in laissez faire, which might be a nice idea if you are a big business magnate, but it doesn't work for a 40 year old steelworker or miner who has never learnt anything else to do in his life. She let people buy their council house, but didn't build any new ones which has resulted in the homelessness we have now. She wasted Scottish oil on her English policies, she started a war when she thought it would be popular and keep her in. She said 'there's no such thing as society', well, we are still reaping the sour grapes from this lunatic, who announced the birth of her grandchild with 'we have become a grandmother'. The Queen hated her guts, just like I did.
cologne 1
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I think the reason for that is that Thatcher destroyed the fabric of this country. We don't have an industry anymore, which isn't just about jobs, but also about communities. She beleived in laissez faire, which might be a nice idea if you are a big business magnate, but it doesn't work for a 40 year old steelworker or miner who has never learnt anything else to do in his life. She let people buy their council house, but didn't build any new ones which has resulted in the homelessness we have now. She wasted Scottish oil on her English policies, she started a war when she thought it would be popular and keep her in. She said 'there's no such thing as society', well, we are still reaping the sour grapes from this lunatic, who announced the birth of her grandchild with 'we have become a grandmother'. The Queen hated her guts, just like I did.


Nail and head Cologne
Dame_Ann_Average
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That probably has a lot to to with the fact that you can buy a council house for a pittance and sell it after a very short time for 4 times the amount.
Make up your mind you were just having a go at Margaret Thatcher for coming up with the scheme.  Everyone could make up their own mind whether they wanted to take advantage of it.
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