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Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I didn't think of myself as superstitious but reading this thread has made me aware that I am a bit.

I salute the single magpie.

If I spill salt, I throw some over my right shoulder with my left hand.

I don't put shoes on the table (although I prefer to think I avoid that one for hygiene reasons)

I try to avoid walking under ladders (in case something lands on me)

 , 

Oh crap... I do it the other way around.   No wonder my life is shit....    

No Kaffs, you're doing it the correct way. You have to throw it in the devil's eye ....and he's always behind you and to your left!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I didn't think of myself as superstitious but reading this thread has made me aware that I am a bit.

I salute the single magpie.

If I spill salt, I throw some over my right shoulder with my left hand.

I don't put shoes on the table (although I prefer to think I avoid that one for hygiene reasons)

I try to avoid walking under ladders (in case something lands on me)

 , 

Oh crap... I do it the other way around.   No wonder my life is shit....    

No Kaffs, you're doing it the correct way. You have to throw it in the devil's eye ....and he's always behind you and to your left!

I purposely spilt some salt ( hope that isn't really bad luck) to check what I do, and Fluffs and Kaffs are right. I throw the salt over my left shoulder, using my right hand. I wrote it the wrong way round.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I didn't think of myself as superstitious but reading this thread has made me aware that I am a bit.

I salute the single magpie.

If I spill salt, I throw some over my right shoulder with my left hand.

I don't put shoes on the table (although I prefer to think I avoid that one for hygiene reasons)

I try to avoid walking under ladders (in case something lands on me)

 , 

Oh crap... I do it the other way around.   No wonder my life is shit....    

No Kaffs, you're doing it the correct way. You have to throw it in the devil's eye ....and he's always behind you and to your left!

Ooh thats interesting Fluffy. The word "sinister" comes from the Latin word for left. Maybe connected somehow?

FM
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I didn't think of myself as superstitious but reading this thread has made me aware that I am a bit.

I salute the single magpie.

If I spill salt, I throw some over my right shoulder with my left hand.

I don't put shoes on the table (although I prefer to think I avoid that one for hygiene reasons)

I try to avoid walking under ladders (in case something lands on me)

 , 

Oh crap... I do it the other way around.   No wonder my life is shit....    

No Kaffs, you're doing it the correct way. You have to throw it in the devil's eye ....and he's always behind you and to your left!

Ooh thats interesting Fluffy. The word "sinister" comes from the Latin word for left. Maybe connected somehow?

Yes it is. That is exactly the reason for 'sinister' being the word for left and/or  evil in many languages.

And in some cultures you do 'dirty' things - like wiping yourself after the toilet - with your left hand, never the right. So woe betide you if you were naturally left-handed.  Don't know though if this is still the case!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I didn't think of myself as superstitious but reading this thread has made me aware that I am a bit.

I salute the single magpie.

If I spill salt, I throw some over my right shoulder with my left hand.

I don't put shoes on the table (although I prefer to think I avoid that one for hygiene reasons)

I try to avoid walking under ladders (in case something lands on me)

 , 

Oh crap... I do it the other way around.   No wonder my life is shit....    

No Kaffs, you're doing it the correct way. You have to throw it in the devil's eye ....and he's always behind you and to your left!

Ooh thats interesting Fluffy. The word "sinister" comes from the Latin word for left. Maybe connected somehow?

Yes it is. That is exactly the reason for 'sinister' being the word for left and/or  evil in many languages.

FM
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

It's used in heraldry:

 

Left - sinister

 

Right - dexter - thus giving rise to dextrous.

Ta Fluffy, didn't know that.

 

Maybe its why nuns used to make left handed children write with their right hand. It was seen as "wrong".

It was more to do with the 'slope' of the writing. Right handed writing naturally slopes to the right and left handed would slope to the left. the right leaning 'slope' was what was seen as correct, so left handed folk were 'forced' to do things to achieve a right-leaning slope. In some areas this would be by forcing left-handers to use their right hand for writing other areas would let you use your left hand, as long as you got the correct slope, so you may see some left-handers who developed a style whereby their hand was twisted round to be almost 'upside-down'.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

thanks heavens..... can I relax now? 

 

I'm not sure I get the devil's eye though, unless he's perched on the sink....if spill salt, I generally go the sink and turn around before throwing it over my shoulder so i don't make a mess... 

He's always behind you and to your left - no matter where you are!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

It's used in heraldry:

 

Left - sinister

 

Right - dexter - thus giving rise to dextrous.

Ta Fluffy, didn't know that.

 

Maybe its why nuns used to make left handed children write with their right hand. It was seen as "wrong".

It was more to do with the 'slope' of the writing. Right handed writing naturally slopes to the right and left handed would slope to the left. the right leaning 'slope' was what was seen as correct, so left handed folk were 'forced' to do things to achieve a right-leaning slope. In some areas this would be by forcing left-handers to use their right hand for writing other areas would let you use your left hand, as long as you got the correct slope, so you may see some left-handers who developed a style whereby their hand was twisted round to be almost 'upside-down'.

Oh I see, ta Fluffy.

FM
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

thanks heavens..... can I relax now? 

 

I'm not sure I get the devil's eye though, unless he's perched on the sink....if spill salt, I generally go the sink and turn around before throwing it over my shoulder so i don't make a mess... 

He's always behind you and to your left - no matter where you are!

Always waiting for an opportunity to catch you out/trip you up/recruit you into his evil forces.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

thanks heavens..... can I relax now? 

 

I'm not sure I get the devil's eye though, unless he's perched on the sink....if spill salt, I generally go the sink and turn around before throwing it over my shoulder so i don't make a mess... 

He's always behind you and to your left - no matter where you are!

Always waiting for an opportunity to catch you out/trip you up/recruit you into his evil forces.

Do you think its related to "get thee behind me Satan" ?

FM
"
"Question: "Why did Jesus say to Peter, 'Get behind me Satan'?"
Answer:
The command “Get behind me, Satan,” spoken to Peter by Jesus, is recorded in Matthew 16:23 and Mark 8:33. “Get behind me, Satan” seems harsh and out of character for Jesus, especially when addressing Peter, one of His most devout disciples. Why did Jesus say this? What was it Peter did to deserve such a rebuke? Without knowing it, Peter was speaking for Satan.
Jesus had just revealed to His disciples for the first time the plan: He was to go to Jerusalem to suffer, die, and be raised to life (Matthew 16:21; Mark 8:31). Contrary to their expectations of Him, Jesus explained that He had not come to establish an earthly Messianic kingdom at that time. The disciples were not prepared for this new revelation of the Messiah’s purpose. Though Peter understood His words, he simply could not reconcile his view of the conquering Messiah with the suffering and death Jesus spoke of. So Peter “began to rebuke Him” for having such a fatalistic mindset.
Unwittingly, Peter was speaking for Satan. Like Jesus’ adversary, Peter was not setting his mind on the things of God—His ways, His plans, and His purposes (Colossians 3:2; Isaiah 55:8-9). Instead, his mind was set on the things of man, the things of the world and its earthly values. Jesus was saying that the way of the cross was God’s will, the plan of redemption for all mankind. Peter’s reaction was most likely shared by the other disciples although, as always, it was Peter who spoke first. Peter was inadvertently being used of Satan in thinking he was protecting Jesus. Satan had purposely tempted Jesus in the wilderness to divert Him from the cross, from fulfilling the grand design of the Father and the Son (Mark 1:12-13). Innocently, Peter was doing the same thing. He had not yet grasped Jesus’ true Messianic purpose.
Although Peter had just moments before declared Jesus as the Christ, he turned from God’s perspective and viewed the situation from man’s perspective, which brought about the stern rebuke: “Get behind me, Satan!” Jesus went on to explain: “You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men” (Mark 8:33).
At the time, Jesus’ stern reprimand did not make sense to Peter. However, Jesus’ indictment presents a profound message for us. We can easily see that Peter had the wrong perspective of God’s plan for Christ’s suffering and death. But we must also see how easily we can become an unwitting spokesperson for Satan. This is especially true when we lose sight of God’s plan for us. This comes about when our focus is on our careers, our possessions, our security, the things of the world rather than upon sacrifice and service and the proclaiming of God’s message. When Peter’s focus shifted to his own desires and plans, Jesus rebuked him in order to get him back on track. May our focus always be on God and His plans, that we may never experience a similar rebuke from our Lord.
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Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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