I heard her say last night that her mother has moved into her house to look after them during the week, and at the weekend they are with their dad's.
As long as they're safe and being well looked after I don't see a problem really.
quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Saffia clearly isnt fit to have kids by leaving them to go on Big Brother
would you be so hard on her if she were a bloke I wonder
Even if the kids are looked after they shouldnt be left without a mum
Hmm...
Whilst personally it would not be my choice,I have been seperated from my children by illness which is probably harder to explain tbh (i.e.my prognosis was unknown)than a planned separation.
So long as the eldest child was prewarned, the damage is probably less than misinformation or no information.
Whilst personally it would not be my choice,I have been seperated from my children by illness which is probably harder to explain tbh (i.e.my prognosis was unknown)than a planned separation.
So long as the eldest child was prewarned, the damage is probably less than misinformation or no information.
I never ever left my children for more than a few hours and then they had to be in the care of grandparents or a very good friend. Fortunately I did not have be separated from them because of illness or other enforced separation. She made the choice though and we can only presume that she has made adequate child care arrangements before going into the BB house. I do think that this issue would not have been raised in the case of an absent father and the whole issue of whether a mother should leave her children smacks of 'dual standards' as fathers do not seem to be questioned if they decide to do this kind of thing
i like her at the mo 
looks like she havin fun
looks like she havin fun
I think some of the forum mams should go on BB.
Apart from the scared ones 
Yeah poor scared forum mams. 
I'm a scared mum. 
Depends on who the kids are left with.
Stability is the key
Mine were used to staying with there gran, their dad and me depending on who was working and who was available to care for them.
I have left mine while young in the hands of their DAD/GRAN for weeks at a time. We have talked about it often over the years and the only time they remember negatively is the time my Hubby had them on his own without Grans help for two weeks and he fed them burger and chips every blummin day for tea.
Stability is the key
Mine were used to staying with there gran, their dad and me depending on who was working and who was available to care for them.
I have left mine while young in the hands of their DAD/GRAN for weeks at a time. We have talked about it often over the years and the only time they remember negatively is the time my Hubby had them on his own without Grans help for two weeks and he fed them burger and chips every blummin day for tea.
he is a terrible parent.
quote:Originally posted by Pol Pot Noodle:
he is a terrible parent.
Dust thou mean my hubby ?
They love him dearly but would rather eat *take out* than eat his cooking
I left my youngest in his pram at' Boots in Romford' when he was about 8 days old, I'd forgotten I'd had a baby, even worse, was so did my husband & 10 year old son, we didn't remember until we got back to Sainsbury's car park, luckily he was still where we left him. 
quote:Originally posted by livinginabox:
Nothing in the world would have taken me away from my baby when she was 10 months old or for that a 7 year old, i would say you can explain to a 7 year old and it would be ok for a couple of weeks at most, but not all summer long, it's dam cruel, that poor Baby will be looking around for her Mummy at that age, as you gather i don't think much of her for doing it
Totally agree..... i was shocked when i heard she had a 7 month old!! She must be extremely fame hungry to leave that little one!
quote:Originally posted by Essex Angel:
I left my youngest in his pram at' Boots in Romford' when he was about 8 days old, I'd forgotten I'd had a baby, even worse, was so did my husband & 10 year old son, we didn't remember until we got back to Sainsbury's car park, luckily he was still where we left him.
That is fabulous.
The fact that she even contemplated going on BB astounds me. Given the length of the selection process, she must have been pregnant when she first applied, or the baby was only days/few weeks old. She really is a selfish cow!
WTF were C4 doing giving her a place on BB - it says a lot about them, too!
WTF were C4 doing giving her a place on BB - it says a lot about them, too!
My sister and I were left with my grandparents for a few months when I was 7 and she was 6. My parents wanted to go into the pub trade so went off to train. I understood why they did it and our grandparents were lovely but I still found it very difficult but it really affected my sister badly. It doesn't matter how you rationalise it, kids need stability and to feel secure. I remember crying myself to sleep because I wanted my mum and trying to explain to my little sister why we'd been left behind. I'm pretty sure it contributed to her ending up in a kids home at 11.
quote:Originally posted by Pol Pot Noodle:
I think some of the forum mams should go on BB.
I would go on but am scared of all the hate threads telling me what a crap mother I am
Hello Choccy.quote:Originally posted by Roxi:quote:Originally posted by Growlybear:
She said last night that they've got different dads. So if the ARE with their fathers, the two children would be apart from each other as well as their mother!
I agree
Long time no see growlybear
quote:Originally posted by Essex Angel:
I left my youngest in his pram at' Boots in Romford' when he was about 8 days old, I'd forgotten I'd had a baby, even worse, was so did my husband & 10 year old son, we didn't remember until we got back to Sainsbury's car park, luckily he was still where we left him.
My mum did the same with my eldest brother when he was a baby. She walked to the local corner shop, left him in his pram outside while she bought some stuff and walked back home without him.So would you also condemn Jordan for leaving Harvey to go on a reality TV show Choccy?quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Mothers shouldnt leave their kids to go on realty tv shows. Its just not right
Should being a mum mean you have no life?
f**k the children. Let em fend for themselves, just leave them a spear to hunt with. Never did me any harm.
f**k the children. Let em fend for themselves, just leave them a spear to hunt with. Never did me any harm.
quote:Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:
Should being a mum mean you have no life?
f**k the children. Let em fend for themselves, just leave them a spear to hunt with. Never did me any harm.
And haven't you alwasy told us how you hate your mum?
only when she's bitching.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:
Should being a mum mean you have no life?
f**k the children. Let em fend for themselves, just leave them a spear to hunt with. Never did me any harm.
And haven't you alwasy told us how you hate your mum?
quote:Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:only when she's bitching.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:
Should being a mum mean you have no life?
f**k the children. Let em fend for themselves, just leave them a spear to hunt with. Never did me any harm.
And haven't you alwasy told us how you hate your mum?
probably cos she's not happy with you wandering round the house with a spear!!
quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Suffia left her young children to go on Big Brother. Do you think this is right. Her children are only 7 years old and 10 months old. I dont think a mother should do this. Your thoughts?
The 10 month old will probably not remember her not being around for a couple of months and perhaps she discussed he impending absence with the 7 year old and the kid was ok with it. Saffia may well have a very good extended family who are very happy to care for her kids while she is on the show.
quote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
I wont run her down but i will add i could have never left my kids that long but thats me
Neither would I. Perhaps she won't be in there that long though
What I find utterly hypocritical is that fathers dont get judged the same as mothers.I personally coulnt leave my kids for that long.I did a week once and that was painful,they werent that young either.I see her point ...shes trying to make life financially secure for their future which is very hard as a single mum - I should know.I think she will find it very hard and may leave because of it.Thats if shes not evicted first.
Its a man's world and we females make matters worse by criticising ourselves.....quote:Originally posted by Amythist:
What I find utterly hypocritical is that fathers dont get judged the same as mothers.I personally coulnt leave my kids for that long.I did a week once and that was painful,they werent that young either.I see her point ...shes trying to make life financially secure for their future which is very hard as a single mum - I should know.I think she will find it very hard and may leave because of it.Thats if shes not evicted first.
I would feel exactly the same about a father leaving their children, if the children lived with them full time. I agree that it is hypocritical to judge fathers differently under those circumstances. But I think it's a very different situation in single parent families and the children live with their mother, which is more often the case; in those circumstances, the children will have a far closer bond with their mothers and will be much reliant on them because they live with them. I don't think there can ever be any justification for a single parent, regardless of gender, to leave their child to go on a reality TV show.quote:Originally posted by Amythist:
What I find utterly hypocritical is that fathers dont get judged the same as mothers.I personally coulnt leave my kids for that long.I did a week once and that was painful,they werent that young either.I see her point ...shes trying to make life financially secure for their future which is very hard as a single mum - I should know.I think she will find it very hard and may leave because of it.Thats if shes not evicted first.
Isn't it more about the fact that she is leaving them and will be out of contact of any kind for potentially up to 3 mths...
Working away is a different matter.. whether it's mothers or fathers, phone calls and contact whenever you want is still available.. not so on a reality TV show when they are locked away from the outside world... . Mums and dads away from home can ring to say na night etc... so the kids know they are still there for them.. to choose to go somewhere where you cannot have contact of any kind seems a bit weird to me.. :shrugs:
Working away is a different matter.. whether it's mothers or fathers, phone calls and contact whenever you want is still available.. not so on a reality TV show when they are locked away from the outside world... . Mums and dads away from home can ring to say na night etc... so the kids know they are still there for them.. to choose to go somewhere where you cannot have contact of any kind seems a bit weird to me.. :shrugs:
quote:Originally posted by Growlybear:I would feel exactly the same about a father leaving their children, if the children lived with them full time. I agree that it is hypocritical to judge fathers differently under those circumstances. But I think it's a very different situation in single parent families and the children live with their mother, which is more often the case; in those circumstances, the children will have a far closer bond with their mothers and will be much reliant on them because they live with them. I don't think there can ever be any justification for a single parent, regardless of gender, to leave their child to go on a reality TV show.quote:Originally posted by Amythist:
What I find utterly hypocritical is that fathers dont get judged the same as mothers.I personally coulnt leave my kids for that long.I did a week once and that was painful,they werent that young either.I see her point ...shes trying to make life financially secure for their future which is very hard as a single mum - I should know.I think she will find it very hard and may leave because of it.Thats if shes not evicted first.
While I see your point and could never leave my own kids in this way i resist judging her so harshly.What if the children are taken care of by loving grandparents on a daily basis while mothers go out to work then they have a continuity of love and security.
quote:Originally posted by Growlybear:
Hello Choccy.
Whos Choccy?
quote:Originally posted by Growlybear:
So would you also condemn Jordan for leaving Harvey to go on a reality TV show Choccy?
Harvey was looked after by Jordan's mum. This is alot different to Saffia situation
quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
Harvey was looked after by Jordan's mum. This is alot different to Saffia situation
You want Jordan's mum to look after Saffia's kids?
as i said somewhere else, she could shoot rainbows from her arse and i'd still not like her. i know it should't come into it really but i cant get over the fact she left a 7 month old baby at home. the 7 year old is old enough to sort of understand...although would be hard they'd probably think it's cool etc. but a baby suddendly doesn't have mummy and it's the most important time of a kids life 
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
You want Jordan's mum to look after Saffia's kids?
I never said that