Even better, Soozy!

 I LOVE picnics  I really want one now....dipped into tea.  The OH won't go to the shop though.

I have never done that ..............I'm so going to have a dunk in a minute ...............I'm a bit excited!

  You don't get left to your own devices often, do you, Sooz?

You are so right. This is an annual holiday for Mr Woo - he has gone the same week every year for thirty years. I just love a bit of time out - as you can see I go a bit wild - I know how to live!

 Sooz....enjoy it!!

*waggles heel*

OMG Alex Reed !!!!!

This flamin design .It's everywhere 

I know .................it does nothing for me.

oh thats really really sad.... if i knew that when i watched it i would have been inconsolable...she was a fantastic actress who played the character brilliantly 

I cried for her too 

General gossip.  Today I found out something beyond even my depraved thinking.  I'm still reeling.

Go on ...

I'm so gob smacked.  

I can tell you so much here, the rest is just beyond sick. (if I told you it all here, I would get banned, it's that sick)

To be honest, I don't know where to start.

So there's this couple that I know, I have known them for 8 or so years.  Have always known they were odd, they have a boy the same age as mine, but they are a very dysfunctional family.  Today I found out that, the guy used to be married to the ladies mother   But then there is another son, who is in his twenties, who I always thought was just his son and the ladies step son, it turns out, that they actually have the same mother.

So the couple were step father and daughter, but went off together, and her half brother is now also her step son 

Complicated I know, but it gets worse, if you heard what the son (that's the step son/half brother) was telling us today.  That's where it gets beyond amusing and I actually feel sick.

I've read that twice cinds, and I still can't quite understand it.  I'll need to read it in the morning when I'm awake.   I dread to think what you're not saying though from what I've read.

Cinds,is the person telling you this someone you trust and believe , is it so bad that the authourities need to be involved.It reads that it has certainly shocked you .

Does it involve incest, if so I hope no one's being abused against their will...or am I reading too much into what you've said

I'm still confused about it all, as in who is related to who.  

To be honest though, I have lost sleep over what the son told me and Mr Cinds the other day.

I've just re read what I said, to me (because I know what I was saying it made sense)

I'll try again.  

A man married a woman who already had a daughter, the man and the woman had a son together.  Some years later the man and the womans daughter got together and married.

The afore mentioned son, is a half brother but now also a step son to his half sister.

Now get your head around that.  Then the son (the one in the above sentence) came and talked to me & Mr Cinds and what he said was just wrong.

It's not just get your head around your dad now shagging your half sister wrong, it's disgustingly wrong.

No, not that I know of, no incest.  It was an action his father has apparently been finding funny, but that normal people would repel.

Well I'm pretty repulsed by what's been said so far^^^^ so, given that they're all shagging each other, I assume that the family pets might be fair game too? 

You wouldn't want a canary supes.

I am repusled too.  

But I didn't say they were all shagging each other, did I?  

If you're losing sleep then forget about it. It's not your problem.

Damn iPhone posting before I'm finished! I really wanna know the rest of Cinds story now!

No, sorry, I got confused!

It's so easy to get confuddled, I've also got one of those proper convoluted family set-ups.

Um, am I missing something?

Of what has been revealed so far I don't quite see what's so shocking. So step-dad and step-daughter marry, as long as he's not still married to the step-daughter's mum, there's nothing wrong legally - maybe a bit unusual though.

Keep up! That's not what's giving Cinds sleepless nights. There's more but she can't tell us, it's that depraved, and may lead to a ban. But seeing as you and Jen are mods you may be able to give Cinds a bye.

Suzy, I know that what Cinds has said here so far is NOT what's giving her sleepless nights, but supes said she's repulsed too. I'm referring to that when I say 'what's so shocking?' Or does supes know more about it than has been said here?

If it's really that shocking and repulsive I don't think the rules would allow us to do that.

Ooooh! I dunno, but one woman's shocking is obviously another woman's 'so what?!'. 

Presumably he was a father figure to this girl and then got into a sexual relationship with her? Presumably he was, at some stage, cheating on his wife with her daughter? And I wonder what age she was when it all 'started'?

That's a fair amount of presuming I know, but even so, I find it pretty shocking and it makes me feel a bit If you're not shocked, then fair enough, we all have different boundaries!

No, I know no more than anyone else.....* Makes note to watch Jeremy Kyle to lower my shock response* On second thoughts, perhaps not!

Oh no, wouldn't wish that on anyone!

Or read more 'Take a break' type mags that are found abandoned at GPs and Dentists 

someone my daughter knows is in the same situation - man married woman, divorced her and married daughter, not to my taste but apparently legal

The poor mum's in that situation, how must they feel? Literally traded in for a younger model