I really hate when that happens.

Still utterly wooden and dreadful tho, I didn't think Mr Arrogance Wilding could get any more confident....

I like him - and I still think he could turn out to be quite good if he stays in

Joe and Rav did look improved though, they had to really up their game for when they all dance as they could be left behind with Linda and Jo.

I know what you mean, I have mellowed wrt entertaining being allowed for a short while, but I can't see the dreadful threesome being entertaining, as well Wilding and Calzahgi have as much personality between them as a peanut.

That was good - some good dancers there!   Ricky was best, but not much between him and Laili and Zoe for me.

Sorry didn't see that, they looked as awful as last week to me.

Matthew and Martina should have stayed!!

For a very short while - I've not mellowed that much.   It's when you see people like Cherie going when John Sargent was there ... and Penny Lancaster and Gabby Logan in the dance off when Kate Garraway was safe, it's just silly.   I don't even like Gabby Logan, but that was so wrong.

Overall, I am impressed with them three, so it looks like...

Ricky Whittle, Laila, Ali, Chris Zoe are the front runners so far, although will have to wait til tomorrows latin to be sure.


The ones that must go first.

Wilding
Joe
Lynda
Jo
The Corrie Bloke.

I agree Temps.  

well i saw improvement and so did craig who is a professional judge so he cleary has improved

Maybe you were too focused on the women lol to notice. Joe should have been in the dance off last week but they have had to step up to the plate as no-one wants to go and it gets more competitive.

Or Martina going when there were at least 3 if not 4 that were far far far worse than her.

Rightio - off for a cyber wander.  Same place tomorrow?  Are we watching live or are we losing some to the X Factor?

Hmmmmmm

Well they couldn't get any worse could they?

They would still have to improve a millionfold even to reach the level of Garroway Phillips and Seargent.

Brendon must be fuming having the lowest points after day 1.
I wouldn't like to get in his way tonight.

rubbish! phillips and garroway couldnt make it through a routine. Joe can , he made it through his routines. come on , credit is due here

Kate wasn't the best dancer she was awful but she did try her best,  it wasn't her fault Penny and Gabby although they were promising dancers ended up in the dance off, their fans should have voted more and must have presumed by their positions on the leaderborard they was safe. Kate got enough votes to be saved by the public vote so on that basis although yes it was wrong two of the best dancers were in the dance off they got the least votes, maybe sympathy played it's part but Tess and Bruce do say to vote for your favourite couple every week so could be taken as a popularity contest in that context by some people.

Yes, Darlo, I know how it works, I'm merely saying I find it disappointing that people vote for personalities rather than the dancing.    The people we're talking about would get votes without setting foot on the dancefloor.   I don't really think it's a case of 'their fans should have voted more'  tp keep them in.  The thing is, the people who are swayed by the sympathy vote and the 'fan' vote are ALWAYS going to out-vote and outnumber the people who just vote for the dancing.

Really?

Joe and Kristina's routine involves a scantily clad Kristina (not that I am complaining about that) draping herself over Joe, there is no dancing from Joe, just a few stompy foot movements, ok to give him credit in the group dance he shook his chest, wow, so much technique involved in that!

I think I'll wait and see if he improves in his next dance and is able to move and dance without stomping and without having to resort to being draped by Kristina.

Exactly, although in Joe's case it isn't about personality as he has none.

Actually what suprised me last week was the fact that wilding was in the dance off, I would have thought all the housewives would've voted in their droves.

Ever heard of a thing called nerves? he is so far out of his comfort zone. It must be so scary. It takes time to settle in and become natural for some people. He should not be branded rubbish or completley useless yet when he has only done two dances in the first week, a weeek that imo was harder than this week.

I'm glad Joe has been given another chance now, but all this hype really has had a negative effect than a positive one so far, he has got to show the people who voted for him they were right for doing so. Joe is a popular guy he's got a big fanbase that probably was enough for him to avoid the dance off like Lynda Bellingham.


P.S how improved was Alesha tonight she settled in eventually, what a fun show.

Hi there Chicken

hi darlo

Hi I watched the show from the comfort of the sofa tonight, I can`t work the laptop on my knee - it gets too hot.
Thought Ricky and Laila were brilliant and was surprised by Phil Tufnell but I just can`t like Zoe or Natalie and I didn`t think much to Craig either, do we reckon Jo Wood and Craig or Richard Dunwoodie in the dance off going by tonight`s dances.

Yes, nerves should be taken into account, but not to the extent that someone should be forgiven all sins for it, why should Joes Nerves be taken into account, and not those of someone else?

Why shouldn't someone who is dreadful be called dreadful when they are?

Like I said he has been given another chance, but if he is still as awful nextweek as he was then he should go, end of story.

How are you?, are you gutted about Daniella Westbrook then?. I've had a good read at the soap mags looks like Archie could or might be involved in this live episode for the 25th anniversary.

didnt say other peoples nerves shouldnt be taken into account i just think he is getting treated really unfairly. Imo Jo Wood was just as bad as Joe if not worse.

I just think that some people are so closed minded to people improving as the show goes on as the standard is so high for some of the contestants at the beginning. i much prefer someone who goes on a journey and actually learns to dance on the show

im good darlo u? yeh i was gutted! I have to say her acting since she has got out of jail( sam i mean!)  has been pretty good hope she will be back

HI Jeppa - I think you could be right.   I'd prefer Jo to go I think.  I quite like Richard Dunwoody (as a person) would like him to have another week anyway.

Breathes V BIG sigh of relief that Tuffers was ok

No you didn't say that, but by saying his nerves should be taken into account it seemed to me, perhaps wrongly, that others couldn;t possibly have been nervous, I mean Ali was shaking with nerves, yet went out to perform brilliantly.

So you would rather have someone who couldn't dance staying over someone that could? 

How can you know that they will improve, I mean Garroway every week people said she would improve but never did, Seargent, he never really improved and would have made the final had it not been for him quitting to go on holiday, or Chris Parker who made the final despite always been dreadful.

OK so Darren Gough went from dreadful to amazing, but he did show signs of improvement, but personally I would rather the dead wood is cut immediately so that those that can dance do not get kicked out over those who people vote for because they are fit or they beg, or they make people laugh.

Do not get me wrong, I have absolute respect for Calzahgi for what he did in the ring, he was an amazing boxer as proved by the fact he rarely got hit, however, in this contest, if he is deadwood then he is deadwood.

LOL, Super!   I couldn't vote for someone if they couldn't dance - even if I really like them.   I'm always relieved if the people I like can dance.   It works both ways too.. I'm dreading Dancing with the Stars because Kelly Osborne is reported as being very good.  Thank heavens I don't (well can't) feel obliged to vote on that!

You say Darren Gough showed signs of improvement , but it was proved tonight that Joe did , not only are alot of people saying he looked better , but craig did aswell! CRAIG! The judge that was harshest to him , so he must of improved

i havent seen any begging on Joes part. He totally acknowledges that his performance last week was not good and he is working hard.

I dont think he should be called deadwood! Like you said DG went on to win but he was terrible in the beginning!

I didnt say i wanted someone who couldnt dance to win! I just think that the contestants should be given the chance to improve and actually learn to dance.I always want the best dancer to win but for me its more moving and great if its someone that has been on a journey .

That is the thing tho, how do you know the person who went wasn't going to improve, they might improve even more ?

If Calzahgi is still dreadful next time he should go, he probably won't but he should.

Craig said he had improved, however it was in a non dance, a group dance where he only was showcased for a few seconds, not a 90 second dance where only he is on show.

We shall see, but if he is the worst dancer he should go, and yes I would've said the same about Goughy, during the first few weeks!

It wasnt a non dance and improvement is improvement! you seem totally against the idea that Joe could actually improve and be really good

I'm good thanks, Sam has been ok and Daniella's acting has improved but Sam Mitchell is not a patch on the fabulous Bianca Jackson. Will be interesting to see what Daniella does once she leaves EE indeed. I've got a feeling Archie will be behind her exit as part of his plan to destroy the Mitchell's. I also think Archie will be double crossed by Janine and all his enemies will get revenge for his terrible deeds, ooh I love speculating.

No I am not, I am just against the fact that he stayed when he was clearly the worst dancer in two dances last week!!!!!

If he turns out to be not the worst next time, then he should stay.

Simple really!