I lost my job because I became alcohol dependent after a lot of crap happened.I got struck off and now am applying for anything but in over a year and about 200 applications have not had even an interview.Should I keep on being honest or start lying about why I lost my job? Or could lie to my doctor and say I am drinking and go on incapacity benefit?(been sober for over a year) ps hate AA,don't buy the higher power stuff.
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oops! didn't mean hate AA,met some wonderful people there,
VikingchickI've never been through this, so I can't judge. But my gut feeling says, stick to your principles of honesty - being honest with yourself has got you this far, out of the worst even if not in a job.
Good luck.
thanks sweetie. 
I just mean should I lie,but then I can't cos of the reference thing....
I just mean should I lie,but then I can't cos of the reference thing....
have you tried doing voluntary work viking?Obviously you won't get paid but it could open up doors for you
quote:Originally posted by Vikingchick:
thanks sweetie.
I just mean should I lie,but then I can't cos of the reference thing....
That's what I meant too - lying might get you somewhere in the short term, but you'll always be waiting for the lie to catch up with you.
Not worth it..
See I'd lie through my teeth!
To an employer I mean....not to a Doc cos fiddling the dole is worse.
To an employer I mean....not to a Doc cos fiddling the dole is worse.
quote:Originally posted by MoFo:
See I'd lie through my teeth!
To an employer I mean....not to a Doc cos fiddling the dole is worse.
Yes but saying "nerves" just gets you so far!
Jeez I'm peed off ,can't even get a supermaarket or cleaning job with a masters degree,I think that my referees are being tw@@@@
Hey Viking, 
don't know you, but you are very brave baring yourself. Have you thought about buying and selling stuff on e-bay or something like that for a living? Lots seem to do it, you don't have to go and buy a mountain of stuff, just try one or two 'lines' out and see what happens. 
don't know you, but you are very brave baring yourself. Have you thought about buying and selling stuff on e-bay or something like that for a living? Lots seem to do it, you don't have to go and buy a mountain of stuff, just try one or two 'lines' out and see what happens. 
quote:Originally posted by barney:
Obviously you won't get paid but it could open up doors for you
Great idea, as you said it will give Viking's CV a new lease of life.
Hi sweetipops... please don't give up! have you thought it might just be the recession that is making finding a job difficult to obtain and not your former problem.I know a lot of people that are finding it difficult at the moment.
I like the idea of doing some charity work... this may help your confidence... I am sure that it probably needs a boost of some sort.Try to find a charity that you would be actually interested in, that way you will enjoy what you are doing and you just might feel that you are making a difference .I do not know whether you have a support network in place but I do know that this forum is jolly good for getting things off your chest. Best of luck.... and do try to believe that when you're down the only way you can go is upwards!
I like the idea of doing some charity work... this may help your confidence... I am sure that it probably needs a boost of some sort.Try to find a charity that you would be actually interested in, that way you will enjoy what you are doing and you just might feel that you are making a difference .
I do not know whether you have a support network in place but I do know that this forum is jolly good for getting things off your chest. Best of luck.... and do try to believe that when you're down the only way you can go is upwards!
Hi, when you say you were struck off, what did you do before? I wouldnt lie to the doctor, they have enough to do. It is a tricky one what to write on your CV, could you put you were ill and are now well, and get a reference from someone you used to work with? Doing some charity work in the meantime is a good idea, it looks like you are doing something whilst looking for work. Plus it will get you back into the swing of things and feel you are doing something useful x
ps. have you thought this actually might be the real time to reassess what you really want to do in life, most of us do jobs which helps us to pay the bills ... but spend most of the time unhappy with what we are doing! ask yourself this... what would really rock your boat....... think about it, then go for it! Have confidence, believe in yourself!Life shouldn't be about regrets but about understanding that we have the power to make things happen... come on you can do it!
quote:Originally posted by figtree:
ps. have you thought this actually might be the real time to reassess what you really want to do in life, most of us do jobs which helps us to pay the bills ... but spend most of the time unhappy with what we are doing! ask yourself this... what would really rock your boat....... think about it, then go for it! Have confidence, believe in yourself!Life shouldn't be about regrets but about understanding that we have the power to make things happen... come on you can do it!
Brill post, completely agree.
And well done on staying sober, that's fabulous
lie on your aplication form for a new job, past employers are not allowed to say anything negative about you, only can confirm you worked for them.
If you've been dry for over a year I think you can s-t-r-e-t-c-h the truth a little now. Maybe refer to health problems now resolved rather than alcohol dependency although as some have already said - don't take rejection too personally - the recession may have a lot to do with it.
that only depends on the job, for instance if you were nursing and dealing with drugs etc past employers are obliged to say reasons for leaving. The same with working with children , elderly and vunerable people.quote:Originally posted by ContessaQ:
lie on your aplication form for a new job, past employers are not allowed to say anything negative about you, only can confirm you worked for them.
A good idea is to look for some sort of voluntary work, you can put that down as most recent/current job. Even though it is unpaid it is STILL employment. Put down Personal Reasons for leaving your other job. Don't be putting ANYTHING negative in the application form. If you want to be honest and up front, the interview is where your past drinking can be discussed...not the application stage. You can use any voluntary work for updating skills and for recent references too.
Couple of good sites ....
http://www.volunteering.org.uk/
http://www.csv.org.uk/
CSV are a really good organisation
This will give you the chance to explore areas you might not have thought of as a career before, and lots of organisations can pay for volunteers to take qualifications and training. It will also help to get you back into the workplace slowly, one step at a time, giving you a chance to build your confidence back up
Good luck
Couple of good sites ....
http://www.volunteering.org.uk/
http://www.csv.org.uk/
CSV are a really good organisation
This will give you the chance to explore areas you might not have thought of as a career before, and lots of organisations can pay for volunteers to take qualifications and training. It will also help to get you back into the workplace slowly, one step at a time, giving you a chance to build your confidence back up
Good luck
lie, totally. 
Wouldn't say lie, but don't mention it on your CV. What Pepsi said, don't put anything negative on your CV or application form.
Where is your CV? Have you uploaded it to monsterboard etc? I advise adding it to as many sites as you can think of. monsterboard, totaljobs, megajobs. also look on the company websites, for vacancies.
Good luck - don't give up.
Where is your CV? Have you uploaded it to monsterboard etc? I advise adding it to as many sites as you can think of. monsterboard, totaljobs, megajobs. also look on the company websites, for vacancies.
Good luck - don't give up.
Very sorry to hear that Op. Well if you've been honest in your application forms for over a year and its got you no where its time to change tack.
Don't know what you actually state as your reason for leaving your last job but don't say alcohol.
Don't know what line of work you're in but try and put a positive spin on why you left.
On my CV I just left out a job I was sacked from because it was just 8 months. The only jobs where someone can be struck off is either Law or Medicine. If it is either of those not so sure about lying on an application.
Don't know what you actually state as your reason for leaving your last job but don't say alcohol.
Don't know what line of work you're in but try and put a positive spin on why you left.
On my CV I just left out a job I was sacked from because it was just 8 months. The only jobs where someone can be struck off is either Law or Medicine. If it is either of those not so sure about lying on an application.
Hi My advice to you is to try get a Civil Service job of some description. They have to employ you on your abilities not your failings, you have gone through a tough time. Now you deserve a foot on the ladder again.
Give it a try then if successful move up that ladder.
Give it a try then if successful move up that ladder.
don't tell prospective employers about the alcohol problem
have you registered with any temporary agencies? those sort of placements can lead to permanent work, or at the very least get you a few good references so you don't even need to rely on past employers
have you registered with any temporary agencies? those sort of placements can lead to permanent work, or at the very least get you a few good references so you don't even need to rely on past employers
Struck off wot exactly?
Have you asked people why you have not received an interview?
That way you can find out where your going wrong
Have you asked people why you have not received an interview?
That way you can find out where your going wrong
Thanks to all you lovely peeps.
Lots of good advice there.I have been saying "due to a bereavment etc" so maybe just to say nothing thanks.I should look into voluntary work that is definitely an option on how to restart my life.
By the way I was just getting a bit pie eyed in the afternoon sometimes, while doing paperwork.etc.At no time did I ever put any patient at risk.(was always aware enough to know that)
Lots of good advice there.I have been saying "due to a bereavment etc" so maybe just to say nothing thanks.I should look into voluntary work that is definitely an option on how to restart my life.
By the way I was just getting a bit pie eyed in the afternoon sometimes, while doing paperwork.etc.At no time did I ever put any patient at risk.(was always aware enough to know that)
quote:Originally posted by Vikingchick:
I lost my job because I became alcohol dependent after a lot of crap happened.I got struck off and now am applying for anything but in over a year and about 200 applications have not had even an interview.Should I keep on being honest or start lying about why I lost my job? Or could lie to my doctor and say I am drinking and go on incapacity benefit?(been sober for over a year) ps hate AA,don't buy the higher power stuff.
Why not try it out on one application and see how it works out. I don't see why you should tell them. It's something in your past, it shouldn't affect your present. No one reveals all their cards in an interview.