poor marcus hook line and sinker

at least she has told him

Team Lisa were spot on.

Kinda spoilt their bitching though when it cut to Noirin telling Marcus that she doesn't want to lead him on.

I am not a fan of Lisa, Karly + Charlie but i think they have sussed Noirin out. She is the biggest player in the house. Marcus is just making himself look like a desperado,

Yeah, they actually made sense for once.

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Originally posted by einna:
I am not a fan of Lisa, Karly + Charlie but i think they have sussed Noirin out. She is the biggest player in the house. Marcus is just making himself look like a desperado,

Marcus and Noirion both huge players both deserve each other.

Is everyone of the opinion that she is a player - I just think she's a friendly person and the blokes in the house get themselves in a tizzy over her because shes good looking and shes giving them the time of day. If she was not as pretty people wouldnt think she's such a player. And anyway she's not really the one to initiate any of the hugs etc. she just accepts them. I think its cringeworthy to see Marcus throwing himself at her like this. 'Dont take me out of my cool zone' CRINGE! It would be difficult for anyone being put in Noirin's position to ask him to stop without seeming nasty. He's puttin her in an awkward position in my opinion

Make no mistake, what they're really saying is they're pissed off that she's not following the Team Lisa game plan.

Excellent spot of editing....team bitch at the bus stop looking daggers through the window, and noirin actually inside doing the opposite of what she was being accused of....marcus will not hear what she is saying, and she is being very clear.....does she have to walk around in sack cloth and ashes and ignore the man for her to not be accused of leading him on??

She talks to everyone....he is a grown man...he has to take responsibility for looking like Mr. Desperate from Desperatesville.

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Originally posted by fz:
Excellent spot of editing....team bitch at the bus stop looking daggers through the window, and noirin actually inside doing the opposite of what she was being accused of....marcus will not hear what she is saying, and she is being very clear.....does she have to walk around in sack cloth and ashes and ignore the man for her to not be accused of leading him on??

She talks to everyone....he is a grown man...he has to take responsibility for looking like Mr. Desperate from Desperatesville.

Exactly

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Originally posted by Bethxx:
Is everyone of the opinion that she is a player - I just think she's a friendly person and the blokes in the house get themselves in a tizzy over her because shes good looking and shes giving them the time of day. If she was not as pretty people wouldnt think she's such a player. And anyway she's not really the one to initiate any of the hugs etc. she just accepts them. I think its cringeworthy to see Marcus throwing himself at her like this. 'Dont take me out of my cool zone' CRINGE! It would be difficult for anyone being put in Noirin's position to ask him to stop without seeming nasty. He's puttin her in an awkward position in my opinion

I agree with you in one respect, Marcus is getting a wee bit obsessed but she's feeding it. What is he supposed to think when she tells him "last night i prayed for my family, friends + god would be good + keep you safe" or words to that effect. any bloke would think she had strong feelings for him.

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Originally posted by fz:
Excellent spot of editing....team bitch at the bus stop looking daggers through the window, and noirin actually inside doing the opposite of what she was being accused of....marcus will not hear what she is saying, and she is being very clear.....does she have to walk around in sack cloth and ashes and ignore the man for her to not be accused of leading him on??

She talks to everyone....he is a grown man...he has to take responsibility for looking like Mr. Desperate from Desperatesville.

I just found the way she was perched on the sofa, she wanted to see the others in the garden. Noirin knows exactly what she's doing. Yes she is being clear with Marcus, but at same time, she leaves open a little window of opportunity. Marcus is immature when it comes to women and I do wonder if he's actually had a proper relationship with a woman.

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Originally posted by einna:

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Originally posted by Bethxx:
Is everyone of the opinion that she is a player - I just think she's a friendly person and the blokes in the house get themselves in a tizzy over her because shes good looking and shes giving them the time of day. If she was not as pretty people wouldnt think she's such a player. And anyway she's not really the one to initiate any of the hugs etc. she just accepts them. I think its cringeworthy to see Marcus throwing himself at her like this. 'Dont take me out of my cool zone' CRINGE! It would be difficult for anyone being put in Noirin's position to ask him to stop without seeming nasty. He's puttin her in an awkward position in my opinion

I agree with you in one respect, Marcus is getting a wee bit obsessed but she's feeding it. What is he supposed to think when she tells him "last night i prayed for my family, friends + god would be good + keep you safe" or words to that effect. any bloke would think she had strong feelings for him.

I'm not a religious person as such, but I thought that was a lovely gesture, praying for him to stay. The sign of a true friend.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Kinda spoilt their bitching though when it cut to Noirin telling Marcus that she doesn't want to lead him on.

i may be a bit premature in this, but your post seems not to converge with what people want to believe and is therefore being , quickly , sprinted over..

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Originally posted by einna:

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Originally posted by Bethxx:
Is everyone of the opinion that she is a player - I just think she's a friendly person and the blokes in the house get themselves in a tizzy over her because shes good looking and shes giving them the time of day. If she was not as pretty people wouldnt think she's such a player. And anyway she's not really the one to initiate any of the hugs etc. she just accepts them. I think its cringeworthy to see Marcus throwing himself at her like this. 'Dont take me out of my cool zone' CRINGE! It would be difficult for anyone being put in Noirin's position to ask him to stop without seeming nasty. He's puttin her in an awkward position in my opinion

I agree with you in one respect, Marcus is getting a wee bit obsessed but she's feeding it. What is he supposed to think when she tells him "last night i prayed for my family, friends + god would be good + keep you safe" or words to that effect. any bloke would think she had strong feelings for him.

Me and my mam were just talking bout this earlier actualy. If she didnt say 'to keep him safe' or whatever, tenner bets he wud have asked at the end 'do you not pray for me then' or something like that, in the flirty way he does... its sort of like he backs her into a corner. its as if she added it on at the end nearly so that he wouldnt have a chance to ask her. or cos she felt pressured or somethin i dunno. maybe not!

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:

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Originally posted by fz:
Excellent spot of editing....team bitch at the bus stop looking daggers through the window, and noirin actually inside doing the opposite of what she was being accused of....marcus will not hear what she is saying, and she is being very clear.....does she have to walk around in sack cloth and ashes and ignore the man for her to not be accused of leading him on??

She talks to everyone....he is a grown man...he has to take responsibility for looking like Mr. Desperate from Desperatesville.

I just found the way she was perched on the sofa, she wanted to see the others in the garden. Noirin knows exactly what she's doing. Yes she is being clear with Marcus, but at same time, she leaves open a little window of opportunity. Marcus is immature when it comes to women and I do wonder if he's actually had a proper relationship with a woman.

I'd sit looking towards the window given the choice tho....and I can't see this window of opportunity at all.....she said how many times that she doesnt want to lead him on, we're only friends, repeated shaking of her head....his body language hiding under the duvet hinted even he is embarrassing himself with the constant begging for affection...he took her hand, she took it back.....he just won't hear what he doesnt want to hear. Lost cause.

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Team Lisa were spot on.

but they dont talk about anybody behind their backs.

When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

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Originally posted by mozart:

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Team Lisa were spot on.

but they dont talk about anybody behind their backs.

Sorry to interrupt... O/T... mozart, someone was asking after you in DS... here's the link

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/fo...php?t=1069765&page=2

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Kinda spoilt their bitching though when it cut to Noirin telling Marcus that she doesn't want to lead him on.

i may be a bit premature in this, but your post seems not to converge with what people want to believe and is therefore being , quickly , sprinted over..

I'm not a Noirin fan but I won't slag her off for the sake of it. Especially when it's regarding something that spewed out the mouths of Team Miserable.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

Very true...her nominations will be interesting. And probably the only ones we can't second guess.

I watched it live....that bit didn't do it justice. Noirin was almost up Freddie's a**e at one point sucking up. Noirin has changed tactic's for one reason only ....because they heard Marcus' name called over the wall and they ALL thought last night that he was popular.
Noirin think's it's best to move to what she perceives is the group most favoured by the GBP.

Just my opinion

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by einna:

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Originally posted by Bethxx:
Is everyone of the opinion that she is a player - I just think she's a friendly person and the blokes in the house get themselves in a tizzy over her because shes good looking and shes giving them the time of day. If she was not as pretty people wouldnt think she's such a player. And anyway she's not really the one to initiate any of the hugs etc. she just accepts them. I think its cringeworthy to see Marcus throwing himself at her like this. 'Dont take me out of my cool zone' CRINGE! It would be difficult for anyone being put in Noirin's position to ask him to stop without seeming nasty. He's puttin her in an awkward position in my opinion

I agree with you in one respect, Marcus is getting a wee bit obsessed but she's feeding it. What is he supposed to think when she tells him "last night i prayed for my family, friends + god would be good + keep you safe" or words to that effect. any bloke would think she had strong feelings for him.

I'm not a religious person as such, but I thought that was a lovely gesture, praying for him to stay. The sign of a true friend.

Yes that's my point, it was a lovely gesture so Marcus (clutching at any straw ) will take it as she really cares a lot for me therefore giving him mixed messages

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by einna:

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Originally posted by Bethxx:
Is everyone of the opinion that she is a player - I just think she's a friendly person and the blokes in the house get themselves in a tizzy over her because shes good looking and shes giving them the time of day. If she was not as pretty people wouldnt think she's such a player. And anyway she's not really the one to initiate any of the hugs etc. she just accepts them. I think its cringeworthy to see Marcus throwing himself at her like this. 'Dont take me out of my cool zone' CRINGE! It would be difficult for anyone being put in Noirin's position to ask him to stop without seeming nasty. He's puttin her in an awkward position in my opinion

I agree with you in one respect, Marcus is getting a wee bit obsessed but she's feeding it. What is he supposed to think when she tells him "last night i prayed for my family, friends + god would be good + keep you safe" or words to that effect. any bloke would think she had strong feelings for him.

I'm not a religious person as such, but I thought that was a lovely gesture, praying for him to stay. The sign of a true friend.

I don't hear all they say but that was indeed a lovely thing to say.
It makes me so about most who go into the BB house that somehow if your friendly with them it must lead to a relationship.
Just because you are stuck in a house 24/7 with a small group of people they must fall in love with you whereas in RL with a far bigger selection of people such attachments would never form.

I admire Noireen for telling Marcus and Sree that she has no feelings that way for either of them.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Kinda spoilt their bitching though when it cut to Noirin telling Marcus that she doesn't want to lead him on.

i may be a bit premature in this, but your post seems not to converge with what people want to believe and is therefore being , quickly , sprinted over..

I'm not a Noirin fan but I won't slag her off for the sake of it. Especially when it's regarding something that spewed out the mouths of Team Miserable.

I'm not a Noirin fan, but I watched it and she was trying to tell him she was JUST his friend and nothing else.I agree with you Spidermonkey, he wanted to hold her hand, he wanted a hug and she done everything possible for him not to get the wrong idea.

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Originally posted by Bethni:
I watched it live....that bit didn't do it justice. Noirin was almost up Freddie's a**e at one point sucking up. Noirin has changed tactic's for one reason only ....because they heard Marcus' name called over the wall and they ALL thought last night that he was popular.
Noirin think's it's best to move to what she perceives is the group most favoured by the GBP.

Just my opinion

How I see it too, i just don't trust her.

Noirin seems to have worked her fabled charm through the Virgin cable system because
I was fuming with her behaviour on bunny night and would happily picked up the phone to vote her out there and then. 24 hours later and she flashes a smile and talks good sense to Freddie and I'm thinking she aint so bad after all. If she can do that purely through the medium of fibre optical cable then no wonder Marcus is following her around the house with his tongue scraping along the floor.

noirin is not responsible for some one else's thoughts and feelings, especially not a 35 year old bloke.
we all choose how to react in any circumstance, his choice, his funeral.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

the same thought entered my head at that point as well twee.

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

Very true...her nominations will be interesting. And probably the only ones we can't second guess.

hi fz. Watching her changing sides and giving off the impression she is one of the Marcus gang now may be all acting. But her nominations will reveal which side she is on. If she nominates two of the Lisa gang, then she really is in Marcus' gang. If she goes for one or more of the Marcus gang, then she has proved that she has been telling lies to stay in the game. That's why I need to see her nominations because only then will I know what she is all about. She is a bit inscrutable atm.

Noirin was the one who told him in the bedroom that she prayed for him... she brought the matter up when the were talking about the eviction night to come. The conversation on the sofa was Marcus thanking her for doing it. He wouldn't have known about it had she not told him she had done it the night before.
I commend her for telling him straight not to hold out hope for anything more than the friendship she is offering but with a guy like Marcus he'll always cling to hope.
Unfortunately Noirin has backed herself into a corner, she know's Lisa and her gang took Siavash's side in the arguement the other night ( cos she was listening with her ear to the door), so she know's she'll get short thrift there, she know's they say one thing and do another. Noirin is a smart enough girl to know which side is the most trustworthy. Marcus is her way into that group, Siavash wasn't talking and Freddie does what Freddie does, he's used to facing thing's alone.
She's made the right decision but will Lisa and the gang let her away with it?

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

Very true...her nominations will be interesting. And probably the only ones we can't second guess.

hi fz. Watching her changing sides and giving off the impression she is one of the Marcus gang now may be all acting. But her nominations will reveal which side she is on. If she nominates two of the Lisa gang, then she really is in Marcus' gang. If she goes for one or more of the Marcus gang, then she has proved that she has been telling lies to stay in the game. That's why I need to see her nominations because only then will I know what she is all about. She is a bit inscrutable atm.

I feel similar about Marcus. He talks a great talk and I want to like him. If he nominates Freddie again this week then I will wash my hands of Marcus for good.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

Very true...her nominations will be interesting. And probably the only ones we can't second guess.

hi fz. Watching her changing sides and giving off the impression she is one of the Marcus gang now may be all acting. But her nominations will reveal which side she is on. If she nominates two of the Lisa gang, then she really is in Marcus' gang. If she goes for one or more of the Marcus gang, then she has proved that she has been telling lies to stay in the game. That's why I need to see her nominations because only then will I know what she is all about. She is a bit inscrutable atm.

I am interested in who she nomiantes but it won't make me dislike her either way.....they are all playing the game...lisa and marcus the most...if noirin votes to try and evict a favourite then she is also playing the game....I think sensibly she should keep team nice close....but she may think siavash will nominate her and she'll then have to nominate him to cancel out the vote.

I dont expect loyalty from any of them.

you know, i keep thinking she noms freddie bcause it's the easiest thing to do.

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
When I watched the live feed I really didn't know if Noirin was for real when she said she didn't know about the game planning all around her. Either she is very naive about BB, or she is playing little miss innocent to give off the idea that she doesn't know anything. But it is possible that she could be the former. It didn't dawn on me until last night that she may not be the player that people accuse her of being, maybe giving her more credit than is her due. When she makes her nominations tomorrow, the truth will out. She might be able to fox the people in the house, but her nominations will be the decider as to what sort of person she really is.

the same thought entered my head at that point as well twee.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that jackson. I'm not one of Noirin's biggest fans but there is something about her, a naivety in her eyes, an innocence if you like in a house full of vipers, a feeling that she is out of her depth slightly in the game playing. I could be wrong, but her nominations will prove to me once and for all what her MO is.

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Originally posted by Bethni:
I watched it live....that bit didn't do it justice. Noirin was almost up Freddie's a**e at one point sucking up. Noirin has changed tactic's for one reason only ....because they heard Marcus' name called over the wall and they ALL thought last night that he was popular.
Noirin think's it's best to move to what she perceives is the group most favoured by the GBP.

Just my opinion

She just can't win can she?...She's called all sorts for not speaking/being nice to Freddy but when she does she's an ulterior motive/a**e licking....As for moving groups would Marcus Saviash and Freddys gentle persuasion not have played a part?....No it's Noirin so off course not.

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Originally posted by Bethni:
I watched it live....that bit didn't do it justice. Noirin was almost up Freddie's a**e at one point sucking up. Noirin has changed tactic's for one reason only ....because they heard Marcus' name called over the wall and they ALL thought last night that he was popular.
Noirin think's it's best to move to what she perceives is the group most favoured by the GBP.

Just my opinion

your right and she nominates him weekly

Why does Noirin sometimes preen herself when she is with Marcus, does anyone have any explanation?

The problem for Marcus has been if he keeps away from her she will complain, if he gets too near to her (sometimes only, other times it's ok) she may say he is invading her space. So he can't win.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Why does Noirin sometimes preen herself when she is with Marcus, does anyone have any explanation?

Because he follows her everywhere and she has to do it sometime.