I couldn't agree more, but people whose only crime was being there will be punished for it simply because someone has to be. Happens all the time.

I do hope you are being sarcastic....

Anyway. There's loads of stuff being said by people who are there, one said she saw someone from Sky News offer someone else £25 to throw a brick at the police.

I have family in the police (including the Met) but make no mistake, they're not the collective gleaming golden mob that some people might think they are. As with every corporation, there's good and bad in all.

Due to family and personal ties I've been involved with police most of my life, positive and negative.

They've been a brilliant help at times but on others they have manipulated their position and have tried to blackmail to get what they want. I have seen uncalled for brutality from them with my own eyes on occasion, equally I have seen them be put in positions where they can't do right for doing wrong.

For those who signed up to the force for the right reasons, the negative does not help them and I feel sorry for them. However, there are some right twisted bastards involved with them, too.

Spoke to my old man earlier today about this...

His words,

"Its Topshop... who cares?"

True, I seen it go on in Eastenders

You can ninja all you like my dear! Have experienced it myself. *shrugs*

Partially sarcastic. I know some sections of the police are no saints but in the insanely PC world we live in where examples have to be made all kinds of wrong calls are made all the time. Football fans get banged up for over a year for looking at each other the wrong way and these clowns get a tap on the wrist for wrecking shops. It blows, all of it.

I believe you Karma

Just trying to be a smart arse Did it work?

Epic fail 

Back to the drawing board it is then...

I know. And the justice system in this country is questionable to say the least. Whether a case makes it to court or not though is down to the CPS, not the police. So when it comes to prison terms that you, me and joe public would think is either too harsh or too small, it all depends on the evidence available and which judge is in court on the day. (That may seem mad but it's true - some people have been clapping with glee when they knew they were up before a certain judge as it was known that they were more lenient than others).

Also depends on the defendant's previous and dare I say it, their history with the police.

I'm not one of these 'I hate the police' types, it does nobody any favours (as people I know have found out to their detriment). I admire some of the situations they have to walk in to, particularly in demonstrations like today or domestic violence cases, but I also will never believe that they act fairly in every situation either as I know this isn't true. Like I said, good and bad in all and I feel sorry for those who go into the force to do a good job.

Honestly, I wouldn't say something like that unless I had seen it with my own eyes.

As for a smart arse, you? Nah. You're smart. But you're not an arse

Words of wisdom from Karma

Well, I think on the whole the police get a bad rep just for being police. I can imagine their resentment at always being the bad guy for essentially trying to do a good job. I don't know how you weed out the good cops from the bad cops, I would have thought these days it would be easy but clearly it is not. Nonetheless I tend to take the side of the police more often than not purely because it's a thankless vocation that will never win you any friends.

What I hate more is the justice system which as you have said is so royally f*cked up it's more luck than judgement that anyone gets any kind of justice in this country. Injustice is far more common.

Yep

I've been watching the young anarchists again.

Graffiti, flares, paint, smahing windows and damaging doors, seems all rather immature and childish.

CON DEM  speaks

the TUC attacking the RITZ..!

some people on the net are wondering if its biscuit rivalry

That's a bit cheesy ain't it?

police reports of £15000 damage caused in fortnums and masons

someone knocked over a jar of olives

I see dropped litter too often.

I see litter dropped near to litter bins even.

I see people throwing things from car windows.

I see food, sometimes glass dropped in bus shelters.

I think what an awful place it would be if everyone behaved in this way - having no respect for other people - a total disregard for other people's property and feelings.

Then I see this sort of thing.....

I despair.

I don't see the point.

I wouldn't like it to happen to my house or, business or workplace -  -  so I wouldn't do it to anyone elses.

....and taking the emphasis away from the real issues

exactly  Skylark!

*groans*

In a crowd of nearly half a million, you're bound to get some hotheads out for trouble. 

I do condone the property damage but not the violence. It's the property damage that is the only way the establishment get the message.  Half a million people intensely angry at the stitch up where the poorest subsidising the cocaine habits and Porsche dealerships of London's square mile, and it's nauseating.  It's a country not at ease with itself a country where we're constantly fed the same rubbish about how we must look after the fat cats who seem to be holding this country to ransom. 

Why are we cutting corp tax when it's been successively cut since at least the 1980s and is one of the lowest in Europe? The Irish Republic's got even lower corp tax but what did it achieve for Ireland apart from a property speculator's binge which necessitated a bailout by other nations?  We're fed the same old mantra of the interests of rich men.  Enterprise, entrepreneurship, business this business that the Thatcherite philosophy that got this country into the mess it's in in first place.  They hide behind lies like 'Gordon maxxed out the credit cards' when the Tories only had a budget surplus during three years from their eighteen years of power.

A government which constantly undermines the public sector and peddles lies about the nature of the global recession, for its own ends.

I don't condone violence, but a few buildings and windows smashed is to be expected given how the country's being stitched up.

i dont even think they were anachists..just bored little arseholes who'd scream like bitches if you hid their ps3's

I agree Brisket, it is appalling behaviour....and I should think very scary for those not involved but surrounded by it 

If you were offered a well paid job as a City Trader would you take it?

shurrup you

yes

and id wave a fiver outta the window

cos i havent got a tenner on me

Is that posh talk for salesman ?

 The Establishment will never listen to rentamob.

Nothing's gained or lost then. 

I happen to think that the establishment don't like it when cities are ablaze and the images are beamed around the world. The narrative of this government is that it is 'fixing Broken Britain' not wrecking it.  ConDem Britain as a grotty little right wing tin pot nation with nothing but bad news, inequality and social strife.

They dropped the poll tax after the riots.

Yes the condems are really fixing "broken  Britain".There was a case on the telly the other night of a ten year old girl who has lost a leg having her disability living allowance stopped. I wonder if her leg grew back...Her aunt looks after her after her mother died..Pathetic,wonder how much Gideon pays for wine in a week.

Quite.  Whilst property violence is hardly to be celebrated, suggesting it's never changed things kinda suggests a lack of knowledge of history to me. 

They also hung someone from a lamp post outside Downing st didn't they - if my history serves me right - granted was many years ago!

Violent behaviour is wrong in any form imo...