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Hiya LL, its just some of the posts on here, commenting negatively about Josie's weight FGS she is a curvy girl and you would think she had commited a crime for being so,

It annoys me that this is the case, as I think comments like these are uncalled for. As it is Josie suffers from low self esteem to do with her weight and if there are other girls and women who do so reading these posts, how does that make them feel, I used to be one of those girls and yes I am overweight due to a thyroid problem which I have not always had, used to be a size 10, now unfortunately I'm not, so u see I have had these issues myself.

I just think it is really uncalled for. Rant over x
LGS


For what it's worth, as much as I don't like Josie, I think she is very pretty and there is nothing wrong with her size.  In all walks of life, you are always going to get people who judge or make comments, human nature I am afraid and most of us are guilty of it at one time or another.  You just have to try and not let it get to you
Liverpoollass
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Not sure what happened to my earlier post, Hiya LGS. Is it any different than any other year Jen, I'm at a lost at the treatment of quite a few house mates on here, I've still to work out how John James became a bigger villan than Raoul Moat.
No RZB, and hiya matey it isn't, I am completely baffled by some of the posting on here with FMs just as well I don't come here much anymore <<<this would be me, some of it is way too personal imo.

thought you'd gawn
LGS
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knowing that she would be under the public gaze 
I'm in the public gaze every time I walk outta the door, don't expect to be constantly referred to as Miss Piggy, lard arse, fat slag, tart etc. though. I  rather hope that if people are going to judge me it'll be because of who I am rather than my dress size!
FM
I don't see her as a little girl lost Tiddy, but she does have some issues that may have come to the surface of seeing the other girls in the house...comparing herself an all that, I don't doubt she is no shrinking violet, but when she has her mates around her maybe it gives her more confidence to be loud. That is the point I'm making,
LGS
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I rather hope that if people are going to judge me it'll be because of who I am rather than my dress size!
Its a pretty lame put down really, 'shes fat' How or what thats got to do with the price of fish is beyond me. If it were a thread on peoples preference on what they find attractive there might be an argument for discussing her weight there, but other than that its just lazy put downs.
FM
Don't go on BB if you don't want to be shredded by the public...I think all the HMs have come in for their fair share of character and appearance assassinations, part of the game.
As for Josie, she's very lazy and slovenly and coupled with the food hoovering, it's no wonder that people are commenting on her appearance, she's let her own standards drop
Kaytee
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I'm in the public gaze every time I walk outta the door, don't expect to be constantly referred to as Miss Piggy, lard arse, fat slag, tart etc. though. I  rather hope that if people are going to judge me it'll be because of who I am rather than my dress size!
Ah but........is there a forum or discussion board dedicated to watching and commenting on you 24/7, that you have agreed to, whilst being paid for it?  
FM
I think tbh that even if she had been a really big girl, if she had been sweet and supportive, which she hasn't been, then people would have really liked her.  I liked her on first glance, and it would be nice to think that 'she's doing if for the bigger girl' but she has shown, just my opinion, a really spiteful nature.  Now who was the girl who danced on the table and broke it, forget her name.  But she was so lovely, yes she was big but everyone liked her, on here as far as I can recall.  She still has a career in TV and is very popular.  So I don't think its so much an issue of Josie's size as her nature.
squiggle
I joined the C4 forum during the Shilpa Shetty Celeb one. Every single BB since then has had an element of vicious posting. I really can't see how this one is any different. Even when there is no BB on, there's the odd witch hunt with FMs being singled out (photoshopped pics, piss taking threads, yada yada yada). May be everyone has got a little sensitive all of a sudden.
suzybean
I've gone off Josie completely, but I've never commented on her weight. I know how difficult it is to lose weight and how low it makes you feel... being in that position once, I would never take the p*ss out of her figure. She really can look quite lovely, shame she hides herself in the duvet and just can't seem to be bothered to make an effort with anything at the moment.
Dame_Ann_Average
I was watching video's of Josie before she went into the house yesterday and she looked great and healthy at about a size 12 to 14, I don't think its low self esteem thats she's put weight on but eating, laying in bed all day and being all round lazy that has piled the pounds on her..I could'nt give two farts if she's fat or thin but watching someone lazing and grazing all day is pretty boring....Plus she moaned about her weight and when Dave offered her to exercise with him, went off on one as though he's outright called her fat, which he did'nt he just guessed her dress size right....
stonks
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I haven't seen anything even approaching the nastiness that's on DS on here, or that was on Ch4.
Me neither! I can remember being turned on several times for disagreeing with the likes of Flippy Flops (or whatever she was called). I honestly can't see the nastiness at the moment, I find a lot of what is said is tongue in cheek.
suzybean

Actually I have been impressed by the lack of nastiness on here.
It has been much more comfortable and less nerve-wracking to post a viewpoint, even a slightly controversial one.
I think this place deserves great credit for its control and tolerance.
People have found a grown-up way of coping with their differences.
I am not suggesting there has not been the odd glitch, but we are well watched over, and by and large I am felt very comfortable this year.
As for Big Brother, we are here to judge them, we vote them out if we don't like them.
We enjoy criticising and moaning - all part of the fun.
But I think personal insults aimed at an individual poster have been remarkably few this year.
I am very pleased.

brisket
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It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if the 'sexiest fat guy' in the world had come in.
We'd have acknowledged the fact that he is indeed fat, but would have debated the 'sexy' aspect, then given him a different nickname like 'lardarse' and people would have got upset about that etc etc
Kaytee
I did say that of one of the housemates, their birth hospital should be contacted to see if the placenta was still hanging around as it would have a better personality. It was probably Dave

Re Josie, she can't sit there moaning about her weight and then do bugger all but lounge around and graze like a goat. I think she's really insecure about it, but in all fairness she does nothing to try and help herself, she's really let herself go in terms of appearance, there's different ways she could dress that would help to balance things out for her.  Remember though, the tele can add up to 10lbs (or summat like that).

Saying all that though, she's not THAT big!
Karma_
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Awww Ditty wasupp?
nothing that hasn't been said before Soops...  tis me!

I am just gonna have a bit of time off I think


ION - its thundering & Lightening like mad here!!!   I have the dog going mental, my son going all mario... and insisting all plug sockets are turned off (so my lappy is running on battery, and I have had to hide the router behind a cushion so he doesn't see that it is on)...  

I feel like rocking in the corner and humming really loudly
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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I was watching video's of Josie before she went into the house yesterday and she looked great and healthy at about a size 12 to 14, I don't think its low self esteem thats she's put weight on but eating, laying in bed all day and being all round lazy that has piled the pounds on her..I could'nt give two farts if she's fat or thin but watching someone lazing and grazing all day is pretty boring....Plus she moaned about her weight and when Dave offered her to exercise with him, went off on one as though he's outright called her fat, which he did'nt he just guessed her dress size right....
I couldn't have put it better myself.  Josie is obviously a pretty girl, and has a lovely face, and frankly, is pretty at a size 12 or a size 18/20 which I would say she is now.  However, now the negatives; she has become a whiney mare, constantly fawning over John James like a lovesick puppy, and it's a bit pathetic and annoying.  John James clearly isn't totally into her; he loves her a mate, but is not physically attracted to her IMO.  If she was, he would have made it clear by now.  Whether it IS because she is a 'bigger' girl, and he feels reluctant to have a chubby lass, or whether he just downright doesn't feel anything other than close friendship for her, I don't know; but he isn't into her in a romantic way.  If he IS, then he is sure hiding it well.

In addition. Josie is now reminding me of Jo O'Meara from S Club 7, who was in CBB a few years back; lounging around in bed all day, doing f*ckall, scoffing and moaning, in her bloody dressing gown or with the quilt wrapped around her; how the eff could any man be attracted to that?!

Finally, re; the 'fat comments' thing...  Yes I agree that the comments are harsh, but it's just human nature.  People are judgemental; fact.  I am judgemental with people, and they are with me...and it's a fact of life that people judge fat people.  And people who ARE fat will be the most pissed off about it... like digs at single mothers are going to upset singles mothers more, but married mothers/childfree folk aren't going to care...and people on benefits are going to be upset at people on benefits being called scroungers, but people working aren't going to give a stuff.  Similarly fat people will be more upset at 'fat' comments...

I myself, actually was 5 stone overweight from the late 90s to the year before last, (and a size 22,) and all the time I was fat, many people judged me, and commented, and people who hadn't seen me for a few years commented on how big I had got...and I had strangers shouting 'fatty' out of car windows...

Then I spent a year (Nov 2008 to Nov 2009) losing 4 stone, (and have kept it off for 9 months,) and I am now a size 14...  Now all year, I have had people commenting how slim I look, and how it's made me look younger and much healthier, and I get whistled at by men, and get chatted up occasionally too: something that hasn't happened since I was last a size 14 in the early 1990s!  So you have to take the rough with the smooth in life; people do comment on peoples' appearances and always will.

I even find myself noticing obese, slovenly people a LOT more, since I lost my weight, and I have seen a number of people I know who are fatter than me now, and some of them are people who commented on my size over the years.  But I would never say anything to them; it's reward enough for me to see them getting bigger, and looking embarrassed and shameful when they see me slimmer.  Also, I don't mention anything about losing weight to anyone, as I don't want to be a diet bore...and they know I have lost weight when they see me.    I also think that very very very few people who are fat, have 'thyroid' problems, or any other health issue.  Most weight gain is down to over-eating, and not enough exercise, but many fat people deny it.  I know I used to.

So I know it's not nice for people to comment on Josie's size, but she has gotten lazy and slovenly, and is always stuffing her face as if food is going out of fashion, and people ARE going to comment and judge: that's life.  (unfortunately...)

I'm sure someone will accuse me of being pious, judgemental, full-of-myself or whatever (for mentioning my weight loss and saying I notice fat people and greediness more now,) but I'm just putting my honest views and aren't setting out to upset anyone or piss anyone off...
cockney-chick
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I've had two people telling me that I've put on weight, recently. I just thank goodness that they pointed it out to me. I've been trying to figure out why those jeans don't do up on me, anymore, and now I have the answer!
They are the same type of helpful souls who point to your lip/face and say "you've got a cold sore/spot"  Oh have I? I hadn't noticed  *wanders off mumbling to lamp posts and shouting at strangers*
Leccy
Yes it is bloody horrid when folk point out you have put weight on, and like I said, I would never ever ever comment, even though I have had people say stuff to me in the past.  Karma has sorted that, by making them fatter than me now!  I don't know WHY people feel they HAVE to tell you you are putting on weight... do they think they're doing you a favour???  Thing is, as i mentioned earlier, people do comment a lot on how I have LOST weight now, so I guess you do have to take the rough with the smooth in life...
cockney-chick
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Karma has sorted that, by making them fatter than me now!
Ohhhhh you can always count on Karma to right them wrongs no matter how long it takes 

Cockney Chick - I think I love you! Brilliant post from you my dear And well bloody done on losing the weight, I know you dont want congrats but you're gonna get em so put up and shuddup

My weight goes up and down like a whore's draws, losing weight at the mo but the lils are getting bigger and I hate it. Thank feck I didn't get a tattoo of a swallow on my boob when I was younger cos it would look like a nuclear missile by now .
I'm banned from exercise right now but even if I was allowed you would NOT see me pounding the pavements doing marathons at 6am for the good of my health. There are just some things I wouldn't even do for charity.

The thing to remember is size 8 and perfect doesn't suit everyone. Look at the state of Victoria Beckham ffs. I've seen Jordan a few times and the only reason her top half looks ok is cos of her fake lils. The bottom half of her looks anorexic. I'd rather have my footballers legs ta very much!
Karma_
Thanks Karma, I was afraid that someone would say 'oh you pious cow, all smart and 'up-yerself,' coz you lost weight..' as I have mentioned this on forums a couple of times before and gotten some really rude remarks...from people who can't lose weight and say they don't over-eat or anything...  saying stuff like 'you are SOOOOO superior aren't you???  with your AMAZING weight loss!!!  just be careful you don't END UP FAT AGAIN!!!!' and other rants


I did actually put on the end of the post when I first put it...'if people have a problem with my views, that's their problem, because they're just my views' as I was expecting some snotty remarks .. then I thought that sounded a bit rude and I was inviting conflict before anyone had even read the post!  LOL!  So I changed it after 5 minutes or so, and I actually do mean it, (what I edited it to...) I really don't mean offence...I am just giving my views and thoughts.
cockney-chick
CC, are you telling me people were having a go at you cos you managed to achieve something that by all accounts, is bloody hard to do?!  My God, there really are some sick, envious people out there. Obviously not at all comfortable in their own skin, they need help

I can't think of anyone on here who would put you down for that tbh. F**k the jealous lot who wanna knock your mojo, don't even give them headspace cos clearly they aint very well
Karma_
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So I know it's not nice for people to comment on Josie's size, but she has gotten lazy and slovenly, and is always stuffing her face as if food is going out of fashion, and people ARE going to comment and judge: that's life. (unfortunately...) I'm sure someone will accuse me of being pious, judgemental, full-of-myself or whatever (for mentioning my weight loss and saying I notice fat people and greediness more now,) but I'm just putting my honest views and aren't setting out to upset anyone or piss anyone off...
Cockney Chick, I love what you've written.  Well said and anyone who would consider you pious, needs their bumps feeling. You have eloquently put how I feel about Joise, for me its not even her weight, but her slovenly ways. It's just off-putting and in fact, sad to see how she has let her self go (IMO) I congratulate you on loosing your weight, I'm sure it wasn't easy, but you have done it and I genuinely hope you're enjoying life at your personal best Well done
Fairfax
Thanks Karma.    Yes, I did get people having a go because of an achievement I was quite proud of.  Most seem quite supportive and pleased, but there have been a few who are quite nasty, and try and put me down and tried to make me feel I was 'full of myself' when i was just sharing my story.  I know people who have lost weight can be annoying 'diet-bores,' but I only mention it, if the subject of weight comes up.  Going back to the original post; I do think that naturally, people who are fat will get upset by fat comments aimed at others...but as I said, I have had lots of comments about 'losing' weight, so I can't complain, but then again, I wish people wouldn't comment when you put weight on, because they must know it's offensive.
cockney-chick
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but then again, I wish people wouldn't comment when you put weight on, because they must know it's offensive.
I suppose it depends on what the individual who is doing the name-calling has been through themselves. We all have something we don't like about ourselves, and/ or a situation we've been through that is sensitive. Every one of us has something that will push that button. And quite often, what we hate about ourselves is what some others desire to have. Like the thing about my lils (sorry it's the best example I can think of) I was talking to my very tall, very pretty, very slim friend about it and she's telling me to stop moaning cos she would love not to look like an ironing board and wishes her feet weren't like paddles! I then went on to remind her she's got legs like a giraffe but she doesn't see what I and others see. Sure, she knows how to 'sell' her good points, but her brain emphasies on the negatives she feels about herself. And she also finds it difficult to gain weight and hates it, whereas if she loses more than 7lbs she feels she starts to look anorexic and gaunt, so it can be very much a 2 way street.
Karma_
great post Cockney chick .. and well done on your personal  achievement... 

That's what I like about this place, over C4,   people can post lengthy and excellent observations without some troll coming in and saying 'too long to read'  . .that used to really get my goat on the C4 forums. .normally was when school was on hols but not always.. .     and being more a reader than a poster I like the longer well thought out stuff.. 
Mount Olympus *Olly*
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I do think that naturally, people who are fat will get upset by fat comments aimed at others
CC, I really do think that I'd have the same reaction if I was fat or thin, and believe me I've been both on several occasions... the upside being if any of my friends put on or lose weight I've got good wardrobes of clothes ranging from a size 10-18
FM

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