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A little light discussion for the weekend Big Grin..


The brilliant Torchwood this week, raised a really interesting dilemma this week. For those who didn't watch it, I shall explain.

Evil aliens demanded that each country of the world gave them 10% of their children....if they didn't everyone on earth would be killed. Eeker

The programme showed the British government discussing who they should sacrifice for the greater good.....they went for the children of immigrants and refugees in hostels and kids who wouldn't be missed too much...and British kids from council estates who were most likely to be less useful to society in the future.

Really shone a light on society's prejudices and made me think who I would choose if I was put in this (admittedly highly unlikely Big Grin) awful position of having to decide.

So who would you choose and why? remember you would HAVE to, no getting out of it - no saying you would refuse.


I'll go first then - I would choose based on sex....take 10% of boys across all social classes.

My reasons - more girls would be needed to re-populate the country, plus boys are more likely to be future violent criminals (not all obviously) and are therefore would be less valuable.

So go on then, examine your prejudices and tell us who you would donate to the aliens Rudolph


** Disclaimer - Dance Settee in no way condones the giving of children to aliens - this is purely a hypothetical discussion***

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
A little light discussion for the weekend Big Grin..


The brilliant Torchwood this week, raised a really interesting dilemma this week. For those who didn't watch it, I shall explain.

Evil aliens demanded that each country of the world gave them 10% of their children....if they didn't everyone on earth would be killed. Eeker

The programme showed the British government discussing who they should sacrifice for the greater good.....they went for the children of immigrants and refugees in hostels and kids who wouldn't be missed too much...and British kids from council estates who were most likely to be less useful to society in the future.

Really shone a light on society's prejudices and made me think who I would choose if I was put in this (admittedly highly unlikely Big Grin) awful position of having to decide.

So who would you choose and why? remember you would HAVE to, no getting out of it - no saying you would refuse.


I'll go first then - I would choose based on sex....take 10% of boys across all social classes.

My reasons - more girls would be needed to re-populate the country, plus boys are more likely to be future violent criminals (not all obviously) and are therefore would be less valuable.

So go on then, examine your prejudices and tell us who you would donate to the aliens Rudolph


** Disclaimer - Dance Settee in no way condones the giving of children to aliens - this is purely a hypothetical discussion***



Your kids.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
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Originally posted by Amythist:
Are the aliens nice aliens ?

If so I'd let the kids decide!


no the alien will turn them into zombies and suck at their essence to get high....it would be a living nightmare Frowner


now stop making me look like a nerd....just discuss this philosophically please Laugh



Well if I must be serious and philosophical it would come down to a quality of life thing...feral kids,kids that have a very low quality of life,kids who have criminal records,kids who have a really poor expectation of growing into responsible adults.

(most of the kids at the centre of Jeremy Kyles paternity disputes!)
Amythist
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
A little light discussion for the weekend Big Grin..


The brilliant Torchwood this week, raised a really interesting dilemma this week. For those who didn't watch it, I shall explain.

Evil aliens demanded that each country of the world gave them 10% of their children....if they didn't everyone on earth would be killed. Eeker

The programme showed the British government discussing who they should sacrifice for the greater good.....they went for the children of immigrants and refugees in hostels and kids who wouldn't be missed too much...and British kids from council estates who were most likely to be less useful to society in the future.

Really shone a light on society's prejudices and made me think who I would choose if I was put in this (admittedly highly unlikely Big Grin) awful position of having to decide.

So who would you choose and why? remember you would HAVE to, no getting out of it - no saying you would refuse.


I'll go first then - I would choose based on sex....take 10% of boys across all social classes.

My reasons - more girls would be needed to re-populate the country, plus boys are more likely to be future violent criminals (not all obviously) and are therefore would be less valuable.

So go on then, examine your prejudices and tell us who you would donate to the aliens Rudolph


** Disclaimer - Dance Settee in no way condones the giving of children to aliens - this is purely a hypothetical discussion***


I can't actually believe what I am reading here. To suggest what you have about 'boys should go' because they are more likely to be violent criminals and we 'need girls more' is bound to cause upset and arguments and flaming on here, but maybe that is why you posted it. This is headed straight for the troll tank before the day is out. I hope someone comes on here to take this offensive post off before too many people see it. I am actually reporting it now. Trying to pass it off as 'hypothetical' or a bit of a light hearted discussion doesn't wash with me .. you must KNOW that this will upset people. Shake Head
S
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
....just discuss this philosophically please Laugh


Dunno if its possible for it to be discussed philosophically, cos its highly emotive (for those who have children anyway).


fair enough...discuss it emotively then Thumbs Up

I was just trying to get out of talking in depth about the aliens really Eeker
DanceSettee
Storm - I think the sort of people that will get upset by it, if they read the title, won`t open the topic.

It has to be discussed philosophically and it would be quite interesting to see if this can be done.

There was a religion discussion on here a few days back and, if anything, that could have become inflammatory, but it didn`t.

It is supposed to be a discussion and anyone trying to turn it into an argument will obviously just be ignored.
Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]
Storm - these scenarios are often used in interviews these days to test if people can discuss things without getting heated. My friend was at an interview where they had to discuss who would be rescued and in what order and the list of people was a disabled person, a lady with 4 children, a man with heart problems, an illegal immigrant, a politician, a nurse etc.

They all ended up getting really heated and of course the person who discussed it and listen to everyone got the job.
Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]
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Originally posted by storm:


I can't actually believe what I am reading here. To suggest what you have about 'boys should go' because they are more likely to be violent criminals and we 'need girls more' is bound to cause upset and arguments and flaming on here, but maybe that is why you posted it. This is headed straight for the troll tank before the day is out. I hope someone comes on here to take this offensive post off before too many people see it. I am actually reporting it now. Trying to pass it off as 'hypothetical' or a bit of a light hearted discussion doesn't wash with me .. you must KNOW that this will upset people. Shake Head


I know it's a controversial issue....and the thread wasn't meant to be purposefully offensive, although I do realise that the issues raised are highly emotive ones

....I just found it such an interesting dilemma that might be worthwhile discussing. There are no right or wrong answers, and everyone's choices would offend someone or other....that's what made it so interesting and mind boggling for me.

The show raised the issues...I just want to discuss them...if people are too offended by the topic, by all means report it and get it removed.....but it was my intention to discuss not offend.
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by storm:
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
A little light discussion for the weekend Big Grin..


The brilliant Torchwood this week, raised a really interesting dilemma this week. For those who didn't watch it, I shall explain.

Evil aliens demanded that each country of the world gave them 10% of their children....if they didn't everyone on earth would be killed. Eeker

The programme showed the British government discussing who they should sacrifice for the greater good.....they went for the children of immigrants and refugees in hostels and kids who wouldn't be missed too much...and British kids from council estates who were most likely to be less useful to society in the future.

Really shone a light on society's prejudices and made me think who I would choose if I was put in this (admittedly highly unlikely Big Grin) awful position of having to decide.

So who would you choose and why? remember you would HAVE to, no getting out of it - no saying you would refuse.


I'll go first then - I would choose based on sex....take 10% of boys across all social classes.

My reasons - more girls would be needed to re-populate the country, plus boys are more likely to be future violent criminals (not all obviously) and are therefore would be less valuable.

So go on then, examine your prejudices and tell us who you would donate to the aliens Rudolph


** Disclaimer - Dance Settee in no way condones the giving of children to aliens - this is purely a hypothetical discussion***


I can't actually believe what I am reading here. To suggest what you have about 'boys should go' because they are more likely to be violent criminals and we 'need girls more' is bound to cause upset and arguments and flaming on here, but maybe that is why you posted it. This is headed straight for the troll tank before the day is out. I hope someone comes on here to take this offensive post off before too many people see it. I am actually reporting it now. Trying to pass it off as 'hypothetical' or a bit of a light hearted discussion doesn't wash with me .. you must KNOW that this will upset people. Shake Head


DS said (not all obviously)
and anyway you can't escape the fact that there are more male violent criminals than female ones.
ContessaQ
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Storm - I think the sort of people that will get upset by it, if they read the title, won`t open the topic.

It has to be discussed philosophically and it would be quite interesting to see if this can be done.

There was a religion discussion on here a few days back and, if anything, that could have become inflammatory, but it didn`t.

It is supposed to be a discussion and anyone trying to turn it into an argument will obviously just be ignored.
I disagree Jeggo. It's not clear from the title what it's about, in fact it's rather ambiguous, so people are bound to open the thread to find out. I just think it could cause offence to people and wouldn't be surprised if this thread turns into an argumentative one, as someone is BOUND to get offended by the original post. JMHO of course. I shan't say anything else, but do think that the original post 'could' cause offence. I shall quietly leave the thread now................
S
Set up auditions for a 'Britain's Got Talent' Junior edition then round up all the cheesy wannabes who audition.

If you were to empty out all the children's terminal wards, hospices and orphanages I wonder what the remainder would be? I'm sure you could cut a deal with Pakistan, India or China to take a part of the UK's percentage (from their large street kid problem) for a price.

In all seriousness I would never allow the Army to take kids (even though I personally have none) and I doubt any UK soldier would follow such an order regardless of the punishment. It was a little bit of a stretch to see all the military going along without a grumble.
Z
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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
If, in that unlikely scenario, it should be done by lottery. Not the way the powers that be decided. The aliens wanted pre-pubescent children, so I would assume under the age of 10-11.

One child is not better than another because one was born on a council estate and one was born to the PM.



That is probably the most moral answer...however, in the programme they rejected it as it would mean their own children would have to enter the lottery...like I said, unfair, but understandable as most parents would do what they could to protect their own.

In fact this is what makes the dilemma so interesting...it's relatively "easy" (if it can ever be that) to order the destruction of other people's kids, as, in effect, countries do so often when waging war on other countries....but not so easy when we have to factor in our own children as potential victims.

The lottery approach is not as straightforward as it might seem.....although it's undoubtably the fairest.
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by china:
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Originally posted by caigy73:
Anyone wearing a shellsuit, burberry baseball cap and a sovereign ring. Take them right out the gene pool.


good answer Big Grin

and just for the record-i think the thread is funny and not at all serious
you'd be a bit strange to think aliens are going to take your kids Laugh


Don't you like my tin foil hat? Frowner
Mentalist
how could anyone say that another has to give up there child while holding there own.....

how would any parent choose which child to sacrifice......

what right would any governing body have to force you.....

what about the parent that tried for yrs finally thru ivf have a child only the one tey are too old for another...how could you force them to give that child up yet families of 12 hadnt been choosen to give there of spring up
J

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