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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by stonks:
She's like a desperate alcoholic..it was her idea to thieve them, she also lied and every week she is so predictable, I liked her up until tonight now I hope she's up against Siavash....

IMO this is the exact opinion that those who edit the HL show were hoping to get tonight - and many viewers have bought it hook, line and sinker.

I think the odds by the morning will suggest that Marcus is favourite to win - which will be great for all those at Endemol/C4 who no doubt placed large bets on him while his odds were still 40/1.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by fz:
Why isnt marcus shouting at charlie too.....to be fair to sophie she has consistently nominated marcus, this is just a reason she hasnt used so far

Because she never told him Charlie was involved.

It's her own fault.

Do you actually watch the show?

We saw Marcus in the DR on the Sunday HL show saying they will be stealing my booze... he had been sitting with Sophie, Charlie and Rodrigo.

He knew exactly who else was involved... we also know from a DR entry that he made last week that Charlie is his favourite housemate...

While Sophie was clearly in the wrong, the more i see, the more i can understand why she was pissed off with Marcus for only blaming her...

Yep, Marcus knows damn well who else is involved.

It's one of the more straight forward incidents imo.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

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Originally posted by robertsam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

How she can try to shift the blame on to the person she has stolen from defies logic.

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:

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Originally posted by robertsam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

How she can try to shift the blame on to the person she has stolen from defies logic.

I know, but that is her all over. She wanted it and decided she could have it and he didn't deserve it. She made the judgement that he couldn't want it so she would and she didn't care as her dislike of him is enough for her to warrant taking his stuff. I know she says she doesn't like his swearing - but she swears! And when did that become the get out clause for stealing?
"I took it because he swears and I don't like swearing so I am justified!" (Is her reasoning, she can't express herself intelligently and she seems to have no morals really either, just double standards).

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

What does 'oxygen thief ' mean?

If this suggests that she does not actually deserve to be alive - it truly puts into a realistic perspective anything that she said in the DR about Marcus.

Sophie let off steam in the privacy of the DR and a few hours later had clearly put the incident behind her.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I am sorry seriously does she deserve to be alive? that aint for ME to say, its just a trem I use to describe people who go through life totally unaware of ANYTHING except themselves,
( for gods sake she thought Arizon,is a country, doesnt know where Africa is and that its a CONTINENT and thinks George Bush is the KING)
I dont think she IS alive in the way most of us are,
SHE steals from Marcus, and somehow, inside whatever she has for a mind, ITS HIS FAULT, and to try to justify it by saying he swears...when SHE swears as well, words fail me, and OTHERS on here who think in the same twisted way as well, Marcus deserved having stuff stolen from him BECAUSE HE SWEARS,...,
I truly AM gobsmacked at the way some peoples thought processes work,

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Originally posted by robertsam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I am sorry seriously does she deserve to be alive? that aint for ME to say, its just a trem I use to describe people who go through life totally unaware of ANYTHING except themselves,
( for gods sake she thought Arizon,is a country, doesnt know where Africa is and that its a CONTINENT and thinks George Bush is the KING)
I dont think she IS alive in the way most of us are,
SHE steals from Marcus, and somehow, inside whatever she has for a mind, ITS HIS FAULT, and to try to justify it by saying he swears...when SHE swears as well, words fail me, and OTHERS on here who think in the same twisted way as well, Marcus deserved having stuff stolen from him BECAUSE HE SWEARS,...,
I truly AM gobsmacked at the way some peoples thought processes work,

I think thought processing doesn't come in to it with Sophie

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
because she is a fecking oxygen thief as well as a beer thief,
I SWEAR I have eaten things THAT HAVE EATEN THINGS that had more intelligence than HER, they are doing amazing things now researching into primate intelligence, and I bet there ARE monkeys smarter than her, the line between her and them must certainly be blurred,
even some species of bird are smarter than her,( have you SEEN some of the things THEY can do?)...but hey...she has blonde hair and fake tits, she will do well, sickening it really is,

What does 'oxygen thief ' mean?

If this suggests that she does not actually deserve to be alive - it truly puts into a realistic perspective anything that she said in the DR about Marcus.

Sophie let off steam in the privacy of the DR and a few hours later had clearly put the incident behind her.

I am sorry seriously does she deserve to be alive? that aint for ME to say, its just a trem I use to describe people who go through life totally unaware of ANYTHING except themselves,
( for gods sake she thought Arizon,is a country, doesnt know where Africa is and that its a CONTINENT and thinks George Bush is the KING)
I dont think she IS alive in the way most of us are,
SHE steals from Marcus, and somehow, inside whatever she has for a mind, ITS HIS FAULT, and to try to justify it by saying he swears...when SHE swears as well, words fail me, and OTHERS on here who think in the same twisted way as well, Marcus deserved having stuff stolen from him BECAUSE HE SWEARS,...,
I truly AM gobsmacked at the way some peoples thought processes work,

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Originally posted by Azure:
she has disliked the depraved vile Mancus from week one when he was making lewd crude suggestions to all the women, you all have short memories of this repulsive man and I say man he is 35yrs old and should have some respect morals for ...if not himself then someone. Mancus did he get another camera so he can take more photographs of himself at the toilet

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:

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Originally posted by Azure:
she has disliked the depraved vile Mancus from week one when he was making lewd crude suggestions to all the women, you all have short memories of this repulsive man and I say man he is 35yrs old and should have some respect morals for ...if not himself then someone. Mancus did he get another camera so he can take more photographs of himself at the toilet

I'm sorry, but many people agree that the "lewd, crude comments" made to "all" (was it?) the women were in fact adult conversations initiated by or reciprocated by them. Noirin for example excited Marcus' interest in her by telling him that she had a "party piece" and naturaly he wanted to know what that was and being the sort of bloke who likes to have a laugh in a dull house he did use that to wind her up quite a bit in fun and she laughed also as did he. They had quite a fun relationship in fact and were often laughing and playing about together until the night that he told her he loved her (whilst they were lying in bed together and she was faced away from him).
After that the rest is history as they say and the fun faltered a bit as she knew it wasn't reciprocated. But from that point, he never mentioned her party piece again and the only comments were to tell her she was beautiful.

With Sophie it was a case of making fun as everybody in her family makes fun of her and she confesses to liking that sort of humour (she liked being called Dogface for example) and she volunteered to let people feel her boobs and has never hidden the fact that they are very important to her and she will be making a career from them after BB is over. As a prospective glamour girl she will be shot in a studio, simulating sexual excitement. On occasions when Marcus has apparently talked to her about sex, I think she is old enough to handle it.

For weeks and weeks I have not heard Marcus make one comment about her boobs again.

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
Yes he's a grown man and if a grown man can't take photos of himself in the toilet, when can he?

Does anybody believe this? Even if true, it's his choice, nobody else's. Who is it hurting? Himself and his camera, nobody else involved.

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by robertsam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I am sorry seriously does she deserve to be alive? that aint for ME to say, its just a trem I use to describe people who go through life totally unaware of ANYTHING except themselves,
( for gods sake she thought Arizon,is a country, doesnt know where Africa is and that its a CONTINENT and thinks George Bush is the KING)
I dont think she IS alive in the way most of us are,
SHE steals from Marcus, and somehow, inside whatever she has for a mind, ITS HIS FAULT, and to try to justify it by saying he swears...when SHE swears as well, words fail me, and OTHERS on here who think in the same twisted way as well, Marcus deserved having stuff stolen from him BECAUSE HE SWEARS,...,
I truly AM gobsmacked at the way some peoples thought processes work,

I think thought processing doesn't come in to it with Sophie

I have nothing against dim people I dont honestly, but I DO have a problem with ANYONE who judges others on their looks or "because they swear" when THEY have a mouth like an open sewer themselves.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by robertsam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I am sorry seriously does she deserve to be alive? that aint for ME to say, its just a trem I use to describe people who go through life totally unaware of ANYTHING except themselves,
( for gods sake she thought Arizon,is a country, doesnt know where Africa is and that its a CONTINENT and thinks George Bush is the KING)
I dont think she IS alive in the way most of us are,
SHE steals from Marcus, and somehow, inside whatever she has for a mind, ITS HIS FAULT, and to try to justify it by saying he swears...when SHE swears as well, words fail me, and OTHERS on here who think in the same twisted way as well, Marcus deserved having stuff stolen from him BECAUSE HE SWEARS,...,
I truly AM gobsmacked at the way some peoples thought processes work,

I think thought processing doesn't come in to it with Sophie

I have nothing against dim people I dont honestly, but I DO have a problem with ANYONE who judges others on their looks or "because they swear" when THEY have a mouth like an open sewer themselves.

Yet ALL Marcus supporters that have posted tonight conveniently choose to ignore the confession that Sophie made 2 nights ago when she said that she talks complete rubbish and should be ignored...

Which part of that has not been taken on board?

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by robertsam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I am sorry seriously does she deserve to be alive? that aint for ME to say, its just a trem I use to describe people who go through life totally unaware of ANYTHING except themselves,
( for gods sake she thought Arizon,is a country, doesnt know where Africa is and that its a CONTINENT and thinks George Bush is the KING)
I dont think she IS alive in the way most of us are,
SHE steals from Marcus, and somehow, inside whatever she has for a mind, ITS HIS FAULT, and to try to justify it by saying he swears...when SHE swears as well, words fail me, and OTHERS on here who think in the same twisted way as well, Marcus deserved having stuff stolen from him BECAUSE HE SWEARS,...,
I truly AM gobsmacked at the way some peoples thought processes work,

I think thought processing doesn't come in to it with Sophie

I have nothing against dim people I dont honestly, but I DO have a problem with ANYONE who judges others on their looks or "because they swear" when THEY have a mouth like an open sewer themselves.

Yet ALL Marcus supporters that have posted tonight conveniently choose to ignore the confession that Sophie made 2 nights ago when she said that she talks complete rubbish and should be ignored...

Which part of that has not been taken on board?

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:

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Originally posted by Azure:
she has disliked the depraved vile Mancus from week one when he was making lewd crude suggestions to all the women, you all have short memories of this repulsive man and I say man he is 35yrs old and should have some respect morals for ...if not himself then someone. Mancus did he get another camera so he can take more photographs of himself at the toilet

I'm sorry, but many people agree that the "lewd, crude comments" made to "all" (was it?) the women were in fact adult conversations initiated by or reciprocated by them. Noirin for example excited Marcus' interest in her by telling him that she had a "party piece" and naturaly he wanted to know what that was and being the sort of bloke who likes to have a laugh in a dull house he did use that to wind her up quite a bit in fun and she laughed also as did he. They had quite a fun relationship in fact and were often laughing and playing about together until the night that he told her he loved her (whilst they were lying in bed together and she was faced away from him).
After that the rest is history as they say and the fun faltered a bit as she knew it wasn't reciprocated. But from that point, he never mentioned her party piece again and the only comments were to tell her she was beautiful.

With Sophie it was a case of making fun as everybody in her family makes fun of her and she confesses to liking that sort of humour (she liked being called Dogface for example) and she volunteered to let people feel her boobs and has never hidden the fact that they are very important to her and she will be making a career from them after BB is over. As a prospective glamour girl she will be shot in a studio, simulating sexual excitement. On occasions when Marcus has apparently talked to her about sex, I think she is old enough to handle it.

For weeks and weeks I have not heard Marcus make one comment about her boobs again.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
Yes he's a grown man and if a grown man can't take photos of himself in the toilet, when can he?

Does anybody believe this? Even if true, it's his choice, nobody else's. Who is it hurting? Himself and his camera, nobody else involved.

not everybodies sense of humour I will agree, but for ME, it made ME laugh, and I DONT think he means that EVERYTIME he goes for a dump he take a photo, he probably did it once...for a LAUGH,

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

ESPECIALY if they are "ugly" or they "swear"..why its almost a DUTY, she was doing it for the beautifull people,

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:

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Originally posted by Azure:
she has disliked the depraved vile Mancus from week one when he was making lewd crude suggestions to all the women, you all have short memories of this repulsive man and I say man he is 35yrs old and should have some respect morals for ...if not himself then someone. Mancus did he get another camera so he can take more photographs of himself at the toilet

I'm sorry, but many people agree that the "lewd, crude comments" made to "all" (was it?) the women were in fact adult conversations initiated by or reciprocated by them. Noirin for example excited Marcus' interest in her by telling him that she had a "party piece" and naturaly he wanted to know what that was and being the sort of bloke who likes to have a laugh in a dull house he did use that to wind her up quite a bit in fun and she laughed also as did he. They had quite a fun relationship in fact and were often laughing and playing about together until the night that he told her he loved her (whilst they were lying in bed together and she was faced away from him).
After that the rest is history as they say and the fun faltered a bit as she knew it wasn't reciprocated. But from that point, he never mentioned her party piece again and the only comments were to tell her she was beautiful.

With Sophie it was a case of making fun as everybody in her family makes fun of her and she confesses to liking that sort of humour (she liked being called Dogface for example) and she volunteered to let people feel her boobs and has never hidden the fact that they are very important to her and she will be making a career from them after BB is over. As a prospective glamour girl she will be shot in a studio, simulating sexual excitement. On occasions when Marcus has apparently talked to her about sex, I think she is old enough to handle it.

For weeks and weeks I have not heard Marcus make one comment about her boobs again.

That is exactly how I see it..Noirin with her party piece, why cos she wanted attention..Sophie, feel my boods, cos she wanted attention..Lisa talking about masturbation cos she wanted attention..Sophia doing her Drop it till ya what ever etc etc etc but its all Marcus's fault..My hamster died gawd help Marcus when he gets out....

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:

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Originally posted by Azure:
she has disliked the depraved vile Mancus from week one when he was making lewd crude suggestions to all the women, you all have short memories of this repulsive man and I say man he is 35yrs old and should have some respect morals for ...if not himself then someone. Mancus did he get another camera so he can take more photographs of himself at the toilet

I'm sorry, but many people agree that the "lewd, crude comments" made to "all" (was it?) the women were in fact adult conversations initiated by or reciprocated by them. Noirin for example excited Marcus' interest in her by telling him that she had a "party piece" and naturaly he wanted to know what that was and being the sort of bloke who likes to have a laugh in a dull house he did use that to wind her up quite a bit in fun and she laughed also as did he. They had quite a fun relationship in fact and were often laughing and playing about together until the night that he told her he loved her (whilst they were lying in bed together and she was faced away from him).
After that the rest is history as they say and the fun faltered a bit as she knew it wasn't reciprocated. But from that point, he never mentioned her party piece again and the only comments were to tell her she was beautiful.

With Sophie it was a case of making fun as everybody in her family makes fun of her and she confesses to liking that sort of humour (she liked being called Dogface for example) and she volunteered to let people feel her boobs and has never hidden the fact that they are very important to her and she will be making a career from them after BB is over. As a prospective glamour girl she will be shot in a studio, simulating sexual excitement. On occasions when Marcus has apparently talked to her about sex, I think she is old enough to handle it.

For weeks and weeks I have not heard Marcus make one comment about her boobs again.

That is exactly how I see it..Noirin with her party piece, why cos she wanted attention..Sophie, feel my boods, cos she wanted attention..Lisa talking about masturbation cos she wanted attention..Sophia doing her Drop it till ya what ever etc etc etc but its all Marcus's fault..My hamster died gawd help Marcus when he gets out....

there is also the one about his "going on about the girls "tits" therefore he is a "perv", I have watched it, and it doesnt matter HOW MANY TIMES YOU SAY IT, "they" choose to ignore the FACTS,
he was talking to them ALL after the row with lisa, telling them all in turn what he thought about them to their faces,...he said to Sophie,"you look at you and think tit bird, put in for the lads, BUT there is more to you than that, you are a nice lass you can talk to you n have a laugh"
Carly "people look at yo and think just a piece of meat put in for the boys, but you aint that you are a good girl you can be fun etc etc etc"
makes NO DIFFERENCE, they see a non pretty ordinarly average working class non wannabe male model untanned BLOKE, who is a bit crude n rude, and thats it, cause they are fed on a diet of boybands and celeb mags,

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:

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Originally posted by Azure:
she has disliked the depraved vile Mancus from week one when he was making lewd crude suggestions to all the women, you all have short memories of this repulsive man and I say man he is 35yrs old and should have some respect morals for ...if not himself then someone. Mancus did he get another camera so he can take more photographs of himself at the toilet

I'm sorry, but many people agree that the "lewd, crude comments" made to "all" (was it?) the women were in fact adult conversations initiated by or reciprocated by them. Noirin for example excited Marcus' interest in her by telling him that she had a "party piece" and naturaly he wanted to know what that was and being the sort of bloke who likes to have a laugh in a dull house he did use that to wind her up quite a bit in fun and she laughed also as did he. They had quite a fun relationship in fact and were often laughing and playing about together until the night that he told her he loved her (whilst they were lying in bed together and she was faced away from him).
After that the rest is history as they say and the fun faltered a bit as she knew it wasn't reciprocated. But from that point, he never mentioned her party piece again and the only comments were to tell her she was beautiful.

With Sophie it was a case of making fun as everybody in her family makes fun of her and she confesses to liking that sort of humour (she liked being called Dogface for example) and she volunteered to let people feel her boobs and has never hidden the fact that they are very important to her and she will be making a career from them after BB is over. As a prospective glamour girl she will be shot in a studio, simulating sexual excitement. On occasions when Marcus has apparently talked to her about sex, I think she is old enough to handle it.

For weeks and weeks I have not heard Marcus make one comment about her boobs again.

That is exactly how I see it..Noirin with her party piece, why cos she wanted attention..Sophie, feel my boods, cos she wanted attention..Lisa talking about masturbation cos she wanted attention..Sophia doing her Drop it till ya what ever etc etc etc but its all Marcus's fault..My hamster died gawd help Marcus when he gets out....

there is also the one about his "going on about the girls "tits" therefore he is a "perv", I have watched it, and it doesnt matter HOW MANY TIMES YOU SAY IT, "they" choose to ignore the FACTS,
he was talking to them ALL after the row with lisa, telling them all in turn what he thought about them to their faces,...he said to Sophie,"you look at you and think tit bird, put in for the lads, BUT there is more to you than that, you are a nice lass you can talk to you n have a laugh"
Carly "people look at yo and think just a piece of meat put in for the boys, but you aint that you are a good girl you can be fun etc etc etc"
makes NO DIFFERENCE, they see a non pretty ordinarly average working class non wannabe male model untanned BLOKE, who is a bit crude n rude, and thats it, cause they are fed on a diet of boybands and celeb mags,

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

good point EXCEPT... he DIDNT STEAL them as no one had claimed them, they were on a table in the main house, they didnt even know they were missing untill Sophie came across them when looking for the can that Marcus was GIVING to her,
the can was part of the drink provided for them ALL at the party it was SHARED OUT, they drank THEIRS, Marcus CHOSE (for whatever reasons) to save his, as it was HIS, and put it in HIS drawer, where Sophie went (DESPITE Marcus quite clearly telling her NOT TO) and she STOLE something that BELONGED to someone else,
theft, right there

oh AND as you point out Marcus INTENDED to GIVE them to someone else, I DONT think he would want the drink back even IF it was offered after it had been drunk

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

good point EXCEPT... he DIDNT STEAL them as no one had claimed them, they were on a table in the main house, they didnt even know they were missing untill Sophie came across them when looking for the can that Marcus was GIVING to her,
the can was part of the drink provided for them ALL at the party it was SHARED OUT, they drank THEIRS, Marcus CHOSE (for whatever reasons) to save his, as it was HIS, and put it in HIS drawer, where Sophie went (DESPITE Marcus quite clearly telling her NOT TO) and she STOLE something that BELONGED to someone else,
theft, right there

oh AND as you point out Marcus INTENDED to GIVE them to someone else, I DONT think he would want the drink back even IF it was offered after it had been drunk

Marcus knew who the smokers were.

Marcus knew he wasn't one of them.

What do you call taking something that you know does not belong to you; but does belong to others?

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

good point EXCEPT... he DIDNT STEAL them as no one had claimed them, they were on a table in the main house, they didnt even know they were missing untill Sophie came across them when looking for the can that Marcus was GIVING to her,
the can was part of the drink provided for them ALL at the party it was SHARED OUT, they drank THEIRS, Marcus CHOSE (for whatever reasons) to save his, as it was HIS, and put it in HIS drawer, where Sophie went (DESPITE Marcus quite clearly telling her NOT TO) and she STOLE something that BELONGED to someone else,
theft, right there

oh AND as you point out Marcus INTENDED to GIVE them to someone else, I DONT think he would want the drink back even IF it was offered after it had been drunk

Marcus knew who the smokers were.

Marcus knew he wasn't one of them.

What do you call taking something that you know does not belong to you; but does belong to others?

Feel free to answer my post on this....

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

good point EXCEPT... he DIDNT STEAL them as no one had claimed them, they were on a table in the main house, they didnt even know they were missing untill Sophie came across them when looking for the can that Marcus was GIVING to her,
the can was part of the drink provided for them ALL at the party it was SHARED OUT, they drank THEIRS, Marcus CHOSE (for whatever reasons) to save his, as it was HIS, and put it in HIS drawer, where Sophie went (DESPITE Marcus quite clearly telling her NOT TO) and she STOLE something that BELONGED to someone else,
theft, right there

oh AND as you point out Marcus INTENDED to GIVE them to someone else, I DONT think he would want the drink back even IF it was offered after it had been drunk

Marcus knew who the smokers were.

Marcus knew he wasn't one of them.

What do you call taking something that you know does not belong to you; but does belong to others?

Feel free to answer my post on this....

I am quoting someone else here but, I heard that he ASKED if everyone had their fags, he checked, they ALL said they had, there was a pack left over cause fred didnt want them, Marcus picked them up, at THAT point I suppose, they became Marcuses fags, what he DIDNT DO, was go into one of the smokers draw, and take them, nor WOULD he,

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I haven't read the thread but as a smoker I can say you don't hide fags. They are all you think about for the day when you're out of your comfort zone. Lisa said one day she didn't care about food as long as she got her fags. I can understand that.

Marcus knows that and saw a game play opportunity. Simple as.
Wish we had live feed to see the real aftermath.

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I haven't read the thread but as a smoker I can say you don't hide fags. They are all you think about for the day when you're out of your comfort zone. Lisa said one day she didn't care about food as long as she got her fags. I can understand that.

Marcus knows that and saw a game play opportunity. Simple as.
Wish we had live feed to see the real aftermath.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by brisket:
So Sophie believes it is OK to steal if you don't like the victim.
Charming I`m sure!

That sounds like the scenario of Marcus stealing cigarettes provided for the smokers - and planning to return them, as a present, to the smoker that he did like - rather than the 2 that he did not like.

good point EXCEPT... he DIDNT STEAL them as no one had claimed them, they were on a table in the main house, they didnt even know they were missing untill Sophie came across them when looking for the can that Marcus was GIVING to her,
the can was part of the drink provided for them ALL at the party it was SHARED OUT, they drank THEIRS, Marcus CHOSE (for whatever reasons) to save his, as it was HIS, and put it in HIS drawer, where Sophie went (DESPITE Marcus quite clearly telling her NOT TO) and she STOLE something that BELONGED to someone else,
theft, right there

oh AND as you point out Marcus INTENDED to GIVE them to someone else, I DONT think he would want the drink back even IF it was offered after it had been drunk

Marcus knew who the smokers were.

Marcus knew he wasn't one of them.

What do you call taking something that you know does not belong to you; but does belong to others?

Feel free to answer my post on this....

I am quoting someone else here but, I heard that he ASKED if everyone had their fags, he checked, they ALL said they had, there was a pack left over cause fred didnt want them, Marcus picked them up, at THAT point I suppose, they became Marcuses fags, what he DIDNT DO, was go into one of the smokers draw, and take them, nor WOULD he,

He's the only one I would trust to look after my handbag while going the loo.. ..I detest liars and thieves....