I don't either. but that's what I heard him say too. I guess we are all anoyed because of the way he went back to others thinking he had done good. He was very proud of himself, he tought he was being clever.

No, it's not better Isadora. Who is saying he was right?

We all have different opinions on it. You wanted the opportunity to say how much you hated it and how much it upset you, and no one has said you were wrong for doing so.  Others should be able to do the same with their opinion.

She's not very attractive so no threat to him and his life. He can use her till the cows come home, she will go along with it because she thinks she has to (she doesn't) and it will all end in tears just before Christmas.

What the f*ck has that got to do with the way JJ spoke to her? Clearly you hate Rachel (and all women who appear in those kind of magazines) but how does that justify the way he treated her? What the hell has she done to him? Are you condoning his behaviour towards her?

And what is your big problem with Nathan being upset that the women he's with has been subjected to vile abuse at the hands of that slimeball? Yeah he's a 'caveman' for defending someone he cares about. If JJ talked that way to my OH he'd be six f*cking feet under the odious little twat. You don't 'wait' for differences to be resolved in those situations. Women get very upset when they come under such attacks. Men don't, they 'resolve the issue'.

That would be a much better topic to deal with.

He was still angry at this point and hadn't had time to calm down and think about it more rationally, but the way he acted was very poor.

I was disappointed that so many of the others let it pass. People are still looking for their winner at this point, I would have loved someone to show me what they were made of and take him on.

Corin and Josie are the only two who are doing and saying half of what they should.

What a load of crap men there are in that house.

If he'd not done or said anything *Wrong* he'd absolutely nothing to worry about,he knew what he done,he knew what he meant,he knew how he came back boasting to the others ,just like he boasted to Caoimhe and Josie the day he'd the row with Corin,yep he's a big brave boy,not.

Yep

Wut?  lol 

I'm kind of doing other things here too but I don't think anyone's said that.  Have they? 

She didn't goad him at all Soozy. He started on her within seconds then ripped her apart. She even said good luck to him at the end, trying to be dignified under such an unwarranted attack. I'm absolutely amazed BB didn't call him to the DR halfway through it, morally bankrupt pricks the whole Endemol team as long as they get something for HL's they don't give a damn.

Sorry but I do disagree.  Women who show off their bodies in these mags are doing so because they are sexy and pretty, and can make money from it.  They don't deserve to be spoken to like they are shit.  Most of them are nice, intelligent girls.  To imply they are hookers is wrong IMO.

He wasn't still angry in the early hours of this morning when he spoke about it to Josie,he said how he'd acted in that room,he said about the comment he made,he said he stands over it and he also said he'd said things in the DR....He was concerned what would be shown,Dave assured him they wouldn't show it,.

Well Said Prom,
If Crabeyes spoke to me like that, Senor Reyes would'nt tire of kicking 7 shites out of him.

thats still selling sex though.

Spot on, I would put Andrew and Sam aside as they are really boys with no life experience. But the two married men and a mole with an IQ of over 150 could have shone in all this mess that JJ1 is creating around himself.

I agree it is Totally wrong! she is making the most of her moment in the spotlight, and getting money in the bank...Good luck to her! What the hell has it got to do with Crabeyes anyway?

Did you not see the sarcasm? I certainly did.

Well exactly. 

Do you blame her? She did good, I would have throttled the Wanker..

Walking the streets is selling sex. She did a photo shoot for a magazine. Is Angelina Jolie selling sex when she's fully clothed on a magazine cover and her cleavage is showing? Please try to differentiate between hookers and photo models. Ta.

I thought he was always angry?  

I was referring specifically to the way he was gloating over it, not what he said to Rachel.  He didn't gloat later, even when he stood by what he said to her, because he had calmed down by then. That's all I meant.

Valid point..... John James was saying that the only thing she'd pass up on was money for sex i.e prostitution, implying that she would do anything else in the 'sex industry.' What the Hell that  has to do with him or why he's got such a problem with can only be a matter for speculation

Not at all ...........i was simply responding to the post that said she was sweetness and light and trying to be dignified.

Two married men, one of whom is a "minister" Can you believe it?

A damn poor show for the guys.

Please do not talk to me like i dont have a brain ta. I am not defending him but yes, in some way angelina jolie with her cleavage out is selling sex. Nuts magazine makes its money from selling sexy images. its all sex.

From what I saw, she was responding to his tone and it would have taken superhuman strength not to respond to his vindictiveness. She, at least, did retain a shred of dignity ... he came across as the twatty crab-eyed cretin that he is

Which is why the whole bloody thing between JJ and Nathan was 'sorted out' in a one and a half minute conversation between them

I know what you meant Ducky ,he'd calmed down but even then he stood by his terrible comment ,says it all really imo,his attitude towards females stinks to high heavens.Apparently during their phone call Nathan told him he owes Rachael an apology,personally I wouldn't want his apology,it's not a heartfelt one,after all he stands by his comment.

I did too.    They were trying to score points - JJ was 'better' at it.

Eeeeeeek   


And Prom is a boy?  I was always under the impression they were a woman.

sorry i dont get your point without knowing what side of this argument you sit on. What do you mean? which was why what?

And I'm sure she will be standing by hers. They were as bad as each other. They can't stand each other,  both engaged in a mud slinging competition, and both ended up looking foolish.

I don't believe anyone should be treated like shit.  Brain surgeon, Nuts model, nun or hooker.

As it happens I have no moral objection at all to any part of the sex industry.  If consenting, un-coersed  (sp?) adults wanna do that then fine.  Knock yourselves out.  In a sane world calling someone a hooker would be no more of an insult than calling them a bank clerk.  IMO.

With copious amounts of bullet holes in it

Might I make a suggestion?  Actually, it's not so  much a "suggestion" as a "strong recommendation".

Prom and bateman:  Please stay out of each other's threads, OR just don't respond to each other.  I've had about enough of this.  If you can't have intelligent conversation without arguing (and not nicely, either), go on with you, and talk to other people.

That's my last word on the subject.  I realize it's public, but so is your ongoing argument.

I think we should agree to disagree Bateman.    Night for now.    Must go...

Bateman no need for that...

I don't think they were tbh,he was nasty to her in the house,undeservedly so but who does deserve it with him,after she left he was still going on about her,imo she was actually a lot kinder than many would have been.

so karms........you're up for buying the calender then??..............

How pathetic ... as per usual

They are and they don't.  
BUT they do need to accept that they are selling sexual images of themselves and, not to put too fine a point on it, that the the pages of the mag will v often end up sticky! (unless they use Mario's sock trick)