John James will be bumping into Rachael's mom and her friends on final night, he better hide.

what is wrong with sticking up for someone you care about?

Nice bit of schadenfreude here too. I watched it unfold last night (he was in the diary room 3 times, and JJ2 was in with him for an hour, and Josie went in with him another time) and I was dying to see what happened inside the DR. He's been a prick from the get go this series. Doesn't give a rip my back foot 

Nothing, but in the first instance two adults should be able to address their differences without some well meaning spouse jumping in.  Patronising not to, IMO.

And if physical violence is involved - particularly from a sodding game show - there's EVERYTHING wrong.  IMO again, of course. 

They did  She went in looking for trouble and looking for 'pay back' it seemed like she had her script prepared of what she was going to say to have a pop at him. He upped the stakes and went waaay too far. But whatever anyone says he did not say she was a prostitute or would sell her body for sex,  he said that she would do anything but that.

Neither did Sam but Josie decided he did because he said she'd sell stories to mag's about her and Barbie Boy,we all heard the hoo haa she made about that .

Ok Super, but his manner and disrespect was still appalling and uncalled for..

There was no differences being addressed - he basically implied she would sell her body for sex.
She acted with dignity - Nathan was angry on her behalf.
That is human nature - it will never change.

If someone spoke to my daughter like that I would wipe the floor with him!

With a snide smile and a nasty tone in his voice that implied the opposite. Sorry Calli he as good as said it and he darn well meant it.

There was a world of differences being addressed......it was just a shame they BOTH decided to do it the way a 6 year old would.

What was that Darlo?

JJ's lower than a snake's belly - with or without the Rachel massage.

Which means I'm not human then, I guess. 

Anyway, some people are saying he said, the only thing she wouldn't do is sell herself for sex.  Is that true or not?  I must admit that's what I heard. 

No Ducky - I know you like JJ1 but there was no justification for what he said... none.

well clearly they did not see the nasty little smile on his face... the snide expression....

Lee, I was referring to the title of the thread

Have i said there was?

If you read back I said they were as bad as each other. Both were snidey, both tried their upmost to push the other ones buttons. NEITHER acted with dignity. If he was my son I would have been ashamed. If she was my daughter I would have been ashamed. This has nothing to do with like or dislike.

Fair enough...
Huge hug - sorry I am finding this whole thing so upsetting.

Sorry Issy, but I just don't get it, he said she would do anything but that. (I'm not defending his behaviour btw, I think he was totally out of order)

Thanks Izzy! I was just trying to find the right words to put that! I'm incoherent with rage... again... because I was watching it on LF yesterday. The snide, sarcastic tone started from the very start and built up to the tone for that comment. That obviously wasn't aired on LF though... sound dip. 

he was smarmy and snidey throughout..i noticed he asked the others if they saw it on the screen.......when they said 'no'......he began boasting how he'd torn into her and nearly made her cry.........what it's got to do with him if she does the lads mags gawd only knows........
but i'd bet my house that come christmas they'll be the john james 2011 calender......full of pics of him with his shirt off doing his best 'smouldering look'.....complete with water dripping down his chest and a few shower shots for good measure

I think that even though he said 'the only thing you wouldnt do is sell your body for sex..' by the look on his face, he was being sarcastic; actually suggesting that he thinks she WOULD.  He really hates her doesn't he?  But what has she done to deserve it?

Supes       I've no time for him.. but that's how I heard it too - he said the only job he thought she's refuse was having sex for money.

No-one is justifying it Issy

I agree. It was a tit for tat exchange....................................I feel the way he acted was inexcusable but ........................she was goading him - sadly probably on the instructions from BB producers.

A very sad state of affairs .............don't really want to see that on BB - why was it set up?

To put another spin on it, I don't suppose the teenage boys, (or whoever it is who buys Nuts),  who are ogling her knockers and arse are doing it out of a keen interest in biology and anatomy,  She is selling sex.

Prostitute - lap dancer - soft porn model.  Different faces of a possibly single dice? 

From both of them

He knows what he was insinuating,last night he said to Josie about the comment he made and how he perhaps shouldn't have said it but no way was he taking it back that he stands over it.

I bet ol crab-eyes visited a few prozzies - probably didnt even pay for it in case they had an ulterior motive... I'm sure at some stage he realised he was gay and had a right ol ding-dong with himself - wonder who won the argument??

Okay - my bad.
Poor little misunderstood JJ who never did anything wrong and who has been bullied and hounded.
What a victim he is and what a tart that Rachael is..
Is that better?

Exactly

And that was the main reason he was shitting himself so much about Nathan ... the yellow-bellied crab-eyed snake

she was. Im not defending him but i do think he was well and truly set up. They know with all their psychologists how he works and what buttons to push. they did it then sent in Nathan. it was all very well orchestrated.

Also I know that Nathan probably did think that he shouldn't have said that to his girlfriend but i also think half of all this im gonna kick his arse stuff was him pleasing the public.  For bb to let this go on is out of order, people have been chucked out of the house for less. People have been chucked out for implying violence while they invited someone in to intimidate one of their own house mates.

its all mental

Absolutely.