and not in the toilet when kris and karly's names where mentioned 
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just me then 
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied 
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Whats your point.?
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied
If Freddie lied he only did i to get Siavash out of the jam he got himself into.
BTW wasn't it Noirin who once said "we all lie all the time". 
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied
Noirin promised Siavash that she would not repeat what he told her. He actually said "You have to promise me that you will not speak about this to anyone", and she agreed wholeheartedly.
Then what did she do? She scampered to the bedroom and repeated what Siavash had told her. That makes her a liar too.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Whats your point.?
i haven't got a fav if you think i'm getting at anyone
but freddie said he hadn't heard the names as he was in the toilet when clearly he was right there
quote:Originally posted by Mathematics:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied
Noirin promised Siavash that she would not repeat what he told her. He actually said "You have to promise me that you will not speak about this to anyone", and she agreed wholeheartedly.
Then what did she do? She scampered to the bedroom and repeated what Siavash had told her. That makes her a liar too.
Yes they ALL lied.
Freddies a sneak 
makes no difference. Most FM's don't seem to be looking at this objectively. Their hate for Noirin will dictate their opinion on it.
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Whats your point.?
i haven't got a fav if you think i'm getting at anyone
but freddie said he hadn't heard the names as he was in the toilet when clearly he was right there
Ok, but he was defending Siavash, he was trying to be a buffer in the argument
She told Siavash she wouldn't say anything except in the DR, then runs in the bedroom and talks to everyone about it
quote:Noirin promised Siavash that she would not repeat what he told her. He actually said "You have to promise me that you will not speak about this to anyone", and she agreed wholeheartedly.
Then what did she do? She scampered to the bedroom and repeated what Siavash had told her. That makes her a liar too.
Good Point
quote:Originally posted by Mathematics:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied
Noirin promised Siavash that she would not repeat what he told her. He actually said "You have to promise me that you will not speak about this to anyone", and she agreed wholeheartedly.
Then what did she do? She scampered to the bedroom and repeated what Siavash had told her. That makes her a liar too.
i agree, like i've said i don't have a fav, but i'm just pointing out freddie and siavash have bothed lied when clearly siavash said their names and both freddie and marcus heard it,just mypoint of view *shrugs*
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
quote:Originally posted by shar69:
makes no difference. Most FM's don't seem to be looking at this objectively. Their hate for Noirin will dictate their opinion on it.
so it would seem
i was just pointing out that siavash did say the names and freddie did hear it, oh well
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied
that's true. Am very disapointed in Freddie, Suavash and Marcus. They have all lost a bit of respect from me.
I wanted Siavash or Freddie to win.......not so sure now
quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
she's as bad as the rest of them, i was just pointing out, that freddie was indeed there at the time the names where mentioned, nothing else
Selective hearing
Why can't people just admit that both Siavash and Freddie lied and stop making excuses for them lying.
A lie is a lie.
A lie is a lie.
quote:Originally posted by Nana Lou:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
don't like to say this but noirin was right and siavash, marcus and freddie lied
that's true. Am very disapointed in Freddie, Suavash and Marcus. They have all lost a bit of respect from me.
I wanted Siavash or Freddie to win.......not so sure now
oh,someone that saw it the same way as me
quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
that is a valid point. I know that I don't always remember things properly when I've drank too much.(not that I do ever drink too much.....she says sweetly)
quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
Why can't people just admit that both Siavash and Freddie lied and stop making excuses for them lying.
A lie is a lie.
haven't a clue, i don't care who wins this year, but it seems theres one rule for one and another for other hms
With drink, a late night and the fact they are all talking about each other makes it hard to remember what you say to whom, we saw this at least twice tonight.
quote:Originally posted by Nana Lou:quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
that is a valid point. I know that I don't always remember things properly when I've drank too much.(not that I do ever drink too much.....she says sweetly)
thats fair enough,but freddie,siavash and marcus all lost their memories at the same time
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
she's as bad as the rest of them, i was just pointing out, that freddie was indeed there at the time the names where mentioned, nothing else
No, you claimed a bit more than that.
You went on to say "but i'm just pointing out freddie and siavash have bothed lied".
Lying implies that they intentionally told a falsehood, and as I pointed out above, that isn't clear at all. If Marcus and Freddie don't remember the incident, then they're not lying.
quote:Originally posted by Nana Lou:quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
that is a valid point. I know that I don't always remember things properly when I've drank too much.(not that I do ever drink too much.....she says sweetly)
Freddie knew exactly what he was doing.
He along with Siavash and Marcus were trying to recruit Noirin into their group and Siavash bulled her about others calling her a rabbit.
She called his bluff and then both Siavash and Freddie lied.
i think what peed them off the most was that Noirin said she would never tell another HM what Siavash was about to tell her. Then what does she go and do.
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
She told Siavash she wouldn't say anything except in the DR, then runs in the bedroom and talks to everyone about it
She was right to do so.
The rabbit spiel from Siavash was not true.
So he initially lied to her about that.
Therefore Noirin was right to bring it into the open.
quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yes I must admit, I was thinking that they were on about in the kitchen once we had l/f on - i didnt know it was continuing from earlier on - yes Freddie was indeed there
thank you, come on guys freddie and marcus claerly hear what siavash said
Just because they heard it doesn't mean they remember hearing it.
I'm not so sure about Marcus, but Freddie's clearly drunk, and with all the shouting I wouldn't be surprised if he's confused about what specific conversation Noirin was referring to - after all, most FMs were last night...
Oh and BTW: at the end of the HL show, we heard Noirin agree with Freddie that he wasn't there at the crucial moment...
she's as bad as the rest of them, i was just pointing out, that freddie was indeed there at the time the names where mentioned, nothing else
No, you claimed a bit more than that.
You went on to say "but i'm just pointing out freddie and siavash have bothed lied".
Lying implies that they intentionally told a falsehood, and as I pointed out above, that isn't clear at all. If Marcus and Freddie don't remember the incident, then they're not lying.
fair enough, but like i've said all 3 suddenly couldn't remeber at the same time
[quote]i think what peed them off the most was that Noirin said she would never tell another HM what Siavash was about to tell her. Then what does she go and do.
Exactly she is a liar
Exactly she is a liar
quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
Why can't people just admit that both Siavash and Freddie lied and stop making excuses for them lying.
A lie is a lie.
quote:Originally posted by mozart:
i think what peed them off the most was that Noirin said she would never tell another HM what Siavash was about to tell her. Then what does she go and do.
And would it have been fairer for noirin to nominate karly and kris based on lies?
heeheee
i went into the toilet at that point
he was all wrong and he lied
i went into the toilet at that point
he was all wrong and he lied
It's not clear. not all the relevant bits of the convo were shown, so it looks like he might have been there but the bit he was saying he wasn't there might have been another bit.quote:Originally posted by Aimee:
and not in the toilet when kris and karly's names where mentioned
quote:Originally posted by frenchbread:
[quote]i think what peed them off the most was that Noirin said she would never tell another HM what Siavash was about to tell her. Then what does she go and do.
Exactly she is a liar
Depends on what you're told and if it's meant to play with your head. Which it was. Siavash was caught out big time