he did say the names, Freddie too said he was in the toilet when the names were said, he wasn't he was sitting right there, whom ever you like or dislike in the house the FACT is both of these HMs LIED.
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For sure - from the highlights show last night when Siavash was shown to say Karly and Kris, Freddie was sitting there with them.
I think the main issue that is being mooted today is why Noirin broke a confidence. She said she wouldn't go to the other group and say what Siavash was about to tell her.
I think the main issue that is being mooted today is why Noirin broke a confidence. She said she wouldn't go to the other group and say what Siavash was about to tell her.
Noirin agreed Freddie wasnt even there when names were mentioned 
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The show lastnight was crap... Now I believe the editing myth by housemates....
....The show lastnight was crap... Now I believe the editing myth by housemates....
quote:Originally posted by Towno:
For sure - from the highlights show last night when Siavash was shown to say Karly and Kris, Freddie was sitting there with them.
I think the main issue that is being mooted today is why Noirin broke a confidence. She said she wouldn't go to the other group and say what Siavash was about to tell her.
I thought Freddie meant when the original comment was made (the first time Siavash heard it at the bus stop) was when he was in the toilet.
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
The only reason I can see for Norry's actions is that she's convinced in her own mind that Marcus will go tonight and, seeing how the land was lying, wanted to ingraciate herself with the group whilst giving them another target for next weeks nominations.
The whys and wherefors are just stage-dressing, everyone talks about everyone in there, but there is only one who is telling tales out of school.
The whys and wherefors are just stage-dressing, everyone talks about everyone in there, but there is only one who is telling tales out of school.
quote:Originally posted by Teddy Bleads:
The only reason I can see for Norry's actions is that she's convinced in her own mind that Marcus will go tonight and, seeing how the land was lying, wanted to ingraciate herself with the group whilst giving them another target for next weeks nominations.
The whys and wherefors are just stage-dressing, everyone talks about everyone in there, but there is only one who is telling tales out of school.
Yes that is how I see it, she targets, they get nominated, she moves on. Some might say that's her game plan and fair play to her but there's something unpleasant about it to me.
thought I was on my own for a minute there Marguerita, I cannot abide Liesquote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
Thats what i thoughtquote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:quote:Originally posted by Towno
For sure - from the highlights show last night when Siavash was shown to say Karly and Kris, Freddie was sitting there with them.
I think the main issue that is being mooted today is why Noirin broke a confidence. She said she wouldn't go to the other group and say what Siavash was about to tell her.
I thought Freddie meant when the original comment was made (the first time Siavash heard it at the bus stop) was when he was in the toilet.
The HLs made it look like that, but in no way did they give us the FACTS. We will never know the true FACTS.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he did say the names, Freddie too said he was in the toilet when the names were said, he wasn't he was sitting right there, whom ever you like or dislike in the house the FACT is both of these HMs LIED.
in that house Towno people get paranoid enough and I agree she was wrong to brek a confidence that he specifically asked her not to, but the fact remains Siavash and Freddie both lied last night, and I for one do not like liars.quote:Originally posted by Towno
For sure - from the highlights show last night when Siavash was shown to say Karly and Kris, Freddie was sitting there with them.
I think the main issue that is being mooted today is why Noirin broke a confidence. She said she wouldn't go to the other group and say what Siavash was about to tell her.
I watched the arguments on LF so I do know who was telling lies and who wasn'tquote:Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:The HLs made it look like that, but in no way did they give us the FACTS. We will never know the true FACTS.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he did say the names, Freddie too said he was in the toilet when the names were said, he wasn't he was sitting right there, whom ever you like or dislike in the house the FACT is both of these HMs LIED.
She did, she said they had said things at times when they han't or in ways that they hadn't and also blabbed to the others when she promised that she wouldn't.quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
But even the Live Feed didn't show it all as it had started before Live Feed came on and there were sound dips during it. So I still maintain that ALL the fact are, and will remain, unknown.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:I watched the arguments on LF so I do know who was telling lies and who wasn'tquote:Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:The HLs made it look like that, but in no way did they give us the FACTS. We will never know the true FACTS.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he did say the names, Freddie too said he was in the toilet when the names were said, he wasn't he was sitting right there, whom ever you like or dislike in the house the FACT is both of these HMs LIED.
easy to take that take if you want the fact remains he lied, simple.quote:Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:But even the Live Feed didn't show it all as it had started before Live Feed came on and there were sound dips during it. So I still maintain that ALL the fact are, and will remain, unknown.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:I watched the arguments on LF so I do know who was telling lies and who wasn'tquote:Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:The HLs made it look like that, but in no way did they give us the FACTS. We will never know the true FACTS.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he did say the names, Freddie too said he was in the toilet when the names were said, he wasn't he was sitting right there, whom ever you like or dislike in the house the FACT is both of these HMs LIED.
Yes, he did say the names, but not in the way and at the times that Noirin was trying to make out.
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
But she did promise Siavash she would not say anything about the conversation and then went hopping off to another group.
Theres a difference between saying something (a quiet word with Kris and Karly) and going on and on and on about it for 2 hours along with cross examination of everyone on the house.quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
They all lied last night because they all said they hadnt heard anyone comment on Noirin hopping between groups and that comment has been made.
Kris lied about the comment he made about Sophie.
Noirin demanded that Marcus should have lied to back her up during the argument as well. She also said she wouldnt repeat conversation in the first place which was a bare faced lie.
Yep...big ol liar she is.quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
But she did promise Siavash she would not say anything about the conversation and then went hopping off to another group.
As Siavash's originally lied to Noirin about the others calling her a rabbit then his demand of her not to reveal that info is dishonest.
Therefore Noirin should not be condemned for exposing a liar.
Siavash again, Freddie both lied later as well.
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
There is an irony in that.
Therefore Noirin should not be condemned for exposing a liar.
Siavash again, Freddie both lied later as well.
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
There is an irony in that.
Siavish asked her not to say anything I bet he did as he was slating other HMS he was covering his own back ,if he had told her something about his life himself that would be different if she broke his confidence ,but never tell anyone who said this or that it is bound to come out especially in that house, as we would want to know who our enemies are glad he has been caught out telling lies I dont like liars never trust them or make excuses for them 
He didnt lie about her being a rabbit that has been shown on a previous show. Are you saying she doesnt spend time in both groups because she bloody well does.quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
As Siavash's originally lied to Noirin about the others calling her a rabbit then his demand of her not to reveal that info is dishonest.
Therefore Noirin should not be condemned for exposing a liar.
Siavash again, Freddie both lied later as well.
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
There is an irony in that.
Irony you say.
quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
As Siavash's originally lied to Noirin about the others calling her a rabbit then his demand of her not to reveal that info is dishonest.
Therefore Noirin should not be condemned for exposing a liar.
Siavash again, Freddie both lied later as well.
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
There is an irony in that.
Just because the accused deny calling her a rabbit doesn't mean Siavash is lying.
Noirin confirmed her bunny name by hopping off to another group.
Freddie said he was in the toilet during the original conversation Siavash heard at the bus stop regarding Noirin being a rabbit.
Who are the "Forum Cool Gang" ?
Yes Siavash was trying to talk sense into her.
Without the punishment it would have been Marcus v Freddie this week.
She is supposed to be Marcus' friend and she moves between the groups. She thinks she is a strong member of the Lisa alliance. She isnt, he was pointing this out. If they leave things alone they are outnumbered it will be Marcus v Freddie next week then Siavash v Freddie, Noirin v Freddie etc. They know this, Lisa and co know this. The only one who doesnt seem to know this is Noirin.
Without the punishment it would have been Marcus v Freddie this week.
She is supposed to be Marcus' friend and she moves between the groups. She thinks she is a strong member of the Lisa alliance. She isnt, he was pointing this out. If they leave things alone they are outnumbered it will be Marcus v Freddie next week then Siavash v Freddie, Noirin v Freddie etc. They know this, Lisa and co know this. The only one who doesnt seem to know this is Noirin.
Breaking a promise does not make you a liarquote:Originally posted by Shelob:Yep...big ol liar she is.quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
But she did promise Siavash she would not say anything about the conversation and then went hopping off to another group.
he asked her not to say anything because he was covering his own back saying what others said about her,it should be about them lying not Noireens ranting he should not have lied in the first place then he would not have been caught out.Well in my book it does she lied about keeping her promise.quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Breaking a promise does not make you a liarquote:Originally posted by Shelob:Yep...big ol liar she is.quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
But she did promise Siavash she would not say anything about the conversation and then went hopping off to another group.
If she had no intention of keeing her promis she should'nt of said it.
IMO Siavash lied aswell ...they are as bad as eachother.
Breaking a promise is breaking a promise not lying she said what he said she did not lie about what he said .quote:Originally posted by Shelob:Well in my book it does she lied about keeping her promise.quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:Breaking a promise does not make you a liarquote:Originally posted by Shelob:Yep...big ol liar she is.quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
They both lied and why should Noireen not say anything Siavash was playing with her head at least she never lied like those two did to me it is more about them not her.
But she did promise Siavash she would not say anything about the conversation and then went hopping off to another group.
If she had no intention of keeing her promis she should'nt of said it.
IMO Siavash lied aswell ...they are as bad as eachother.
Of course its lying.
If you have no intention of keeping a promise.. the one that made the promise lied.
If you have no intention of keeping a promise.. the one that made the promise lied.
quote:Originally posted by Towno
For sure - from the highlights show last night when Siavash was shown to say Karly and Kris, Freddie was sitting there with them.
I think the main issue that is being mooted today is why Noirin broke a confidence. She said she wouldn't go to the other group and say what Siavash was about to tell her.
Yes, how dare she expose him for being a lying manipulating shit stirrer.
See, this is the problem. Put together incomplete bits and you can make it into whatever you want.
but that argument can go both ways.quote:Originally posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
See, this is the problem. Put together incomplete bits and you can make it into whatever you want.
quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
Have you got a list of current members?
quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
There is an irony in that.
Oooh there is a forum cool gang?
Who are they and why am I not a member
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by inkas pal:
Oh well, I suppose it's okay for the two boys to lie, because the 'Forum Cool Gang' don't see it as lying.
There is an irony in that.
Oooh there is a forum cool gang?
Who are they and why am I not a member
Wonders what newspapers the Forum Cool Gang read.
