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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

jamie, you sum things up in so few words, but you always always always get to the crux of the matter so quickly. That is exactly what Siavash meant. They have turned on Bea because she is no longer a useful tool to get Freddie and Marcus up for eviction.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

It's a game though and he's always trying to turn the sympathy on for himself. He has the terrible dilemma to nominate. When Charlie does this people criticise him, why not the same with Siavash?

Then when he is told he will be punished he makes a big deal of it making it all about himself. Makes Marcus think he will be thrown out lol. If he isn't concerned about the game like he says why does he go on about these things so much?

Sounded to me like he did have sympathy for Bea while saying that he doesn't like it being a game.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Interesting HLs.

First we get Siavash whispering his appeal to God on whether he will or won't concerning nominations. Playing to the cameras, but in a rather unfunny and egotistical way? It's a gameshow you fool. Talk to Marcus and he'll explain to you it's a gameshow.

Then we get him getting totally trumped by BB as they give him his nominations (while at the same time unfortunately protecting him from eviction). He goes on about how it's wrong for people to turn against Bea. It's a game you fool. He is taking it personally just like Bea does, he is like her.

Then he leaves the DR and wonders what BB means about saying he has nominated, making a big thing of this and making it oh so important for him (even though he SAYS he isn't interested in the game).

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

when marcus cries its for the camera but he dosent have the guts to do wot siavash did
charlie is a follower siavash is a doer

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Interesting HLs.

First we get Siavash whispering his appeal to God on whether he will or won't concerning nominations. Playing to the cameras, but in a rather unfunny and egotistical way? It's a gameshow you fool. Talk to Marcus and he'll explain to you it's a gameshow.

Then we get him getting totally trumped by BB as they give him his nominations (while at the same time unfortunately protecting him from eviction). He goes on about how it's wrong for people to turn against Bea. It's a game you fool. He is taking it personally just like Bea does, he is like her.

Then he leaves the DR and wonders what BB means about saying he has nominated, making a big thing of this and making it oh so important for him (even though he SAYS he isn't interested in the game).

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Interesting HLs.

First we get Siavash whispering his appeal to God on whether he will or won't concerning nominations. Playing to the cameras, but in a rather unfunny and egotistical way? It's a gameshow you fool. Talk to Marcus and he'll explain to you it's a gameshow.

Then we get him getting totally trumped by BB as they give him his nominations (while at the same time unfortunately protecting him from eviction). He goes on about how it's wrong for people to turn against Bea. It's a game you fool. He is taking it personally just like Bea does, he is like her.

Then he leaves the DR and wonders what BB means about saying he has nominated, making a big thing of this and making it oh so important for him (even though he SAYS he isn't interested in the game).

He did talk to Marcus.

Marcus told him that he's also strongly considering not nominating either.

The only difference is Siavash actually went through with it.

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

when marcus cries its for the camera but he dosent have the guts to do wot siavash did
charlie is a follower siavash is a doer

Marcus doesn't cry for the camera. He doesn't make such a big fuss over nominations.

Marcus realises nominations are just part of the game. I don't remember him blabbing about how hard nominations are and that he hopes God will guide him on such (according to Siavash) world shattering decisions.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

when marcus cries its for the camera but he dosent have the guts to do wot siavash did
charlie is a follower siavash is a doer

Marcus doesn't cry for the camera. He doesn't make such a big fuss over nominations.

Marcus realises nominations are just part of the game. I don't remember him blabbing about how hard nominations are and that he hopes God will guide him on such (according to Siavash) world shattering decisions.

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

when marcus cries its for the camera but he dosent have the guts to do wot siavash did
charlie is a follower siavash is a doer

Marcus doesn't cry for the camera. He doesn't make such a big fuss over nominations.

Marcus realises nominations are just part of the game. I don't remember him blabbing about how hard nominations are and that he hopes God will guide him on such (according to Siavash) world shattering decisions.

oooops that should of been charlie crying not marcus

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
Interesting HLs.

First we get Siavash whispering his appeal to God on whether he will or won't concerning nominations. Playing to the cameras, but in a rather unfunny and egotistical way? It's a gameshow you fool. Talk to Marcus and he'll explain to you it's a gameshow.

Then we get him getting totally trumped by BB as they give him his nominations (while at the same time unfortunately protecting him from eviction). He goes on about how it's wrong for people to turn against Bea. It's a game you fool. He is taking it personally just like Bea does, he is like her.

Then he leaves the DR and wonders what BB means about saying he has nominated, making a big thing of this and making it oh so important for him (even though he SAYS he isn't interested in the game).

He did talk to Marcus.

Marcus told him that he's also strongly considering not nominating either.

The only difference is Siavash actually went through with it.

Marcus doesn't cry about someone being turned against in the house, he knows it's just part of a game. Siavash wants to make out that it's much more than a game when it isn't. Marcus has just been bored with the game and has wanted to liven it up or leave if it doesn't get more interesting. Big difference.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

when marcus cries its for the camera but he dosent have the guts to do wot siavash did
charlie is a follower siavash is a doer

Marcus doesn't cry for the camera. He doesn't make such a big fuss over nominations.

Marcus realises nominations are just part of the game. I don't remember him blabbing about how hard nominations are and that he hopes God will guide him on such (according to Siavash) world shattering decisions.

Uhhh hold on a minute.

In addition to Marcus suggesting tonight that he also wouldn't nominate this week... there was also the week where everyone apart from Lisa and Rodrigo were up. That was the week where Marcus attempted to orchestrate everyone refusing to vote. In the end they did vote, but gave invalid reason and then immediately revealed their nominations after leaving the Diary Room.

You are wrong to try to paint Marcus as some kind of benchmark in nomination protocol.

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
free thinking marcus has more to lose than siavash

siavash is the only one who dosent care if he goes
marcus does even tho he says he wants to go
marcus is a gameplayer and a good one

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:


What is this talk of Siavash crying which you keep referring to? Did I watch a different programme to you?

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
free thinking marcus has more to lose than siavash

siavash is the only one who dosent care if he goes
marcus does even tho he says he wants to go
marcus is a gameplayer and a good one

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
You say that Marcus is honest, but clearly he suggested to Siavash that he too would not be nominating this week, but then went ahead and nominated anyway.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
free thinking marcus has more to lose than siavash

siavash is the only one who dosent care if he goes
marcus does even tho he says he wants to go
marcus is a gameplayer and a good one

If Siavash doesn't care why does he agonize over what the punishment will be?

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Originally posted by jamieboy:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
free thinking marcus has more to lose than siavash

siavash is the only one who dosent care if he goes
marcus does even tho he says he wants to go
marcus is a gameplayer and a good one

If Siavash doesn't care why does he agonize over what the punishment will be?

he sed put me up and they wudnt his agonisin was what they wud do to others

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

jamie, you sum things up in so few words, but you always always always get to the crux of the matter so quickly. That is exactly what Siavash meant. They have turned on Bea because she is no longer a useful tool to get Freddie and Marcus up for eviction.

But it's a GAME. He is making it personal and all about himself. Just like Bea.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

jamie, you sum things up in so few words, but you always always always get to the crux of the matter so quickly. That is exactly what Siavash meant. They have turned on Bea because she is no longer a useful tool to get Freddie and Marcus up for eviction.

But it's a GAME. He is making it personal and all about himself. Just like Bea.

That is one giant leap to make FT. There are no similarities between Bea and Siavash. Siavash has made one mistake with friendship, just one, but Bea has made many. Siavash risked being up this week because of his actions and he didn't mind taking the risk. That is a brave act. Bea was blackmailing all the others not to nominate her, and it backfired on her. Siavash has never stooped so low.

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Originally posted by The Guru:
a personality disorder characterized by extreme self-centeredness and self-absorption, fantasies involving unrealistic goals, an excessive need for attention and admiration, and disturbed interpersonal relationships.

Link http://dictionary.reference.co...sonalities?qsrc=2446

Sounds more like Marcus to be honest.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by jamieboy:
hmmmmmmm i think u got siavash wrong or ive got u wrong
but he wasnt bothered about them turnin on Bea
he was bothered about them turning on freddie last week and protecting her, when she was exactly the same last week as she was this week

i think this has been the best bit of BB

jamie, you sum things up in so few words, but you always always always get to the crux of the matter so quickly. That is exactly what Siavash meant. They have turned on Bea because she is no longer a useful tool to get Freddie and Marcus up for eviction.

But it's a GAME. He is making it personal and all about himself. Just like Bea.

That is one giant leap to make FT. There are no similarities between Bea and Siavash. Siavash has made one mistake with friendship, just one, but Bea has made many. Siavash risked being up this week because of his actions and he didn't mind taking the risk. That is a brave act. Bea was blackmailing all the others not to nominate her, and it backfired on her. Siavash has never stooped so low.

It's a GAME. Bea has tried different alliances but it's not easy for a new HM to establish a solid position in the house. Siavash seems to have gradually retreated (there's no Noirin there anymore as a reason for it). Except for Sophie I don't really see who else he really communicates with in the house. He was always a bit of an under the radar HM anyway.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:


I do appreciate it is a game FT. But by the very nature of staying under the radar, surely you would agree that this is a good tactic in the game. Siavash has had no major arguments in the house, he does not fight for camera time and perform like a performing seal when he thinks the camera might be on him (guess who I am referring to?), he minds his own business, keeps his own counsel, does his own thing regarding nominations and takes the risk of being evicted, etc etc. If, as you say, he is doing all this to win the money surely he is taking too many risks for it to be his main motivation? Charlie is the one who is taking no risks at all.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:


I do appreciate it is a game FT. But by the very nature of staying under the radar, surely you would agree that this is a good tactic in the game. Siavash has had no major arguments in the house, he does not fight for camera time and perform like a performing seal when he thinks the camera might be on him (guess who I am referring to?), he minds his own business, keeps his own counsel, does his own thing regarding nominations and takes the risk of being evicted, etc etc. If, as you say, he is doing all this to win the money surely he is taking too many risks for it to be his main motivation? Charlie is the one who is taking no risks at all.

I think Charlie gets involved in more arguments than Siavash. I don't like Charlie but he does speak his mind more. Siavash isn't the only under the radar HM, Rodrigo is another for instance. I just don't think it is that entertaining. To make Rodrigo interesting they had to do this whole Queen twist. Siavash is having to use this nominations agony. He just doesn't get involved in the house much for me.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
So, we're all agreed that Marcus meets the criteria for Narcissism?

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Originally posted by frenchbread:


Hi Blizzie

Yeah 100% Marcus