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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

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Originally posted by Nemesis:

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by Nemesis:


He said he would donate his 10k to charity and SUGGESTED everyone else do the same. He hasn't won the 10k yet, and what the eventual winner decided to do with the money is absolutely no concern of his. It was a PR stunt. He has you fooled. Not me.

No you're hearing what you want to hear, it was perfectly clear what he meant and seeing English is not his first language I understood him more than Charlie or Dave.... he said if we all agree that any money woney whoever wins...you sounding like Dave!

Why should they agree to that? And why did he decide to bring it up on the night before the evictions? Anyone with half a brain knows why. The majority of people in Britain don't have half a brain and that's what he's banking on.

I doubt many of the GPB will spend weeks wondering if he gave money to charity or not - assuming he wins. Most people forget about the show after it's ended and get on with their lives.

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:

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Originally posted by Nemesis:

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by Nemesis:


He said he would donate his 10k to charity and SUGGESTED everyone else do the same. He hasn't won the 10k yet, and what the eventual winner decided to do with the money is absolutely no concern of his. It was a PR stunt. He has you fooled. Not me.

No you're hearing what you want to hear, it was perfectly clear what he meant and seeing English is not his first language I understood him more than Charlie or Dave.... he said if we all agree that any money woney whoever wins...you sounding like Dave!

Why should they agree to that? And why did he decide to bring it up on the night before the evictions? Anyone with half a brain knows why. The majority of people in Britain don't have half a brain and that's what he's banking on.

I doubt many of the GPB will spend weeks wondering if he gave money to charity or not - assuming he wins. Most people forget about the show after it's ended and get on with their lives.

Yeah. You know it's not over yet right?

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

But how do you know for certainty it's a "pretence"? Unless you know him well you couldn't know any more than any of us what his true motives are

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

But how do you know for certainty it's a "pretence"? Unless you know him well you couldn't know any more than any of us what his true motives are

He knows the score. Whatever his motive, he knows he should not have made any mention of charity and donating prize money while in the house.

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

I aim to please But seriously, after charlies mum in a coma tale...I think anything goes. Whats sauce for the goose etc etc etc....just because charlie says private health care would get his winnings doesnt make it true. And equally he shouldnt have then been aired saying that...trying to make us all stop thinking he is a complete twat, and pick up our phones in droves to keep him in....In fact I'd have more faith in siavash fulfilling his pledge.

Either way...it is all speculation and it's not as though siavash wasnt a contender to win before his charidee speech.

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

I aim to please But seriously, after charlies mum in a coma tale...I think anything goes. Whats sauce for the goose etc etc etc....just because charlie says private health care would get his winnings doesnt make it true. And equally he shouldnt have then been aired saying that...trying to make us all stop thinking he is a complete twat, and pick up our phones in droves to keep him in....In fact I'd have more faith in siavash fulfilling his pledge.

Either way...it is all speculation and it's not as though siavash wasnt a contender to win before his charidee speech.

Siavash is so boring it defies belief. He can't even be bothered to finish his own sentences. I don't think he was ever a contender. The refusing to nominate because he's just too nice yeah right and the prize money to charity thing jesus he couldn't be any more transparent.

Yes he is rather like Jesus.

Hello Nem.

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

But how do you know for certainty it's a "pretence"? Unless you know him well you couldn't know any more than any of us what his true motives are

He knows the score. Whatever his motive, he knows he should not have made any mention of charity and donating prize money while in the house.

Why not Charlie keeps going on about how the money is going to help his mum.

He only said the £10,000 he was earning by giving up the clothes anyway.

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

But how do you know for certainty it's a "pretence"? Unless you know him well you couldn't know any more than any of us what his true motives are

He knows the score. Whatever his motive, he knows he should not have made any mention of charity and donating prize money while in the house.

Why not Charlie keeps going on about how the money is going to help his mum.

He only said the £10,000 he was earning by giving up the clothes anyway.

Yes, Charlie too. He's just as bad.

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

But how do you know for certainty it's a "pretence"? Unless you know him well you couldn't know any more than any of us what his true motives are

Did I forget IMO again

Exactly, nobody knows what his true intentions are. but he has now set his agenda to martyr mode. The man is throwing the word charity around, so 'his people' will get all loved up on his angelic quest. Keep their fingers on redial, and get their 'chosen one' to Top Spot.
This is the point, if he is true to his word, I would expect to see his refusal of the prize fund..... go around in circles here, but he needs the public to get him there.

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Originally posted by felix:
I am appalled with this charity con he has used to beat Marcus in yesterdays eviction. People have actually voted for him and are spending their cash, under the pretext he will donate it all to charity. This is the lowest form of conning, the only way anyone will ever know if he is truthful, is if he wins... again the public will spend their cash to find this out.

People can mock and think it great, but I find it deeply disturbing, and goes beyond a popularity contest.

His vain camera singing after the eviction, was yet another 'vote for me appeal'.

The smuggish way he posed in the diary room, while slating Charlie, confirmed yet again, his desperation to gain votes.

The overinflated ego has gone into overdrive!

Are you serious??? you think Marcus went yesterday because siavash talked about some mone y going to charity???? Get real!!!

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This is the point, if he is true to his word, I would expect to see his refusal of the prize fund..... go around in circles here, but he needs the public to get him there.

Exactly! He took himself out of the game ages ago, so he should not be in any position to be winning anything!

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Originally posted by Gabriel Pennywise:
Yes he is rather like Jesus.

Hello Nem.

Hello.

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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This is the point, if he is true to his word, I would expect to see his refusal of the prize fund..... go around in circles here, but he needs the public to get him there.

Exactly! He took himself out of the game ages ago, so he should not be in any position to be winning anything!

He removed himself from the nomination process....because he could see the futility of it....if he had wanted to remove himself from the game he would have walked. If endemol wanted him removed from the game he'd have been chucked out and if the public wanted him removed from the game he'd have been evicted.

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Originally posted by Nemesis:

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Originally posted by Gabriel Pennywise:
Yes he is rather like Jesus.

Hello Nem.

Hello.

Sorry I'm not as lush as Karma.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gabriel Pennywise:
Yes he is rather like Jesus.

Do you remember that wonderful good old days night when Noreen said she felt just like Jesus?
Those were the days

I do no remember those days.

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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This is the point, if he is true to his word, I would expect to see his refusal of the prize fund..... go around in circles here, but he needs the public to get him there.

Exactly! He took himself out of the game ages ago, so he should not be in any position to be winning anything!

He removed himself from the nomination process....because he could see the futility of it....if he had wanted to remove himself from the game he would have walked. If endemol wanted him removed from the game he'd have been chucked out and if the public wanted him removed from the game he'd have been evicted.

He said himself he had removed himself from the game. He should have been thrown out!

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

I aim to please But seriously, after charlies mum in a coma tale...I think anything goes. Whats sauce for the goose etc etc etc....just because charlie says private health care would get his winnings doesnt make it true. And equally he shouldnt have then been aired saying that...trying to make us all stop thinking he is a complete twat, and pick up our phones in droves to keep him in....In fact I'd have more faith in siavash fulfilling his pledge.

Either way...it is all speculation and it's not as though siavash wasnt a contender to win before his charidee speech.

I have to say, I agree BB should not let us know the HMs predicaments, but they allow us info for actual events and circumstance, re: Liams mum, Tourettes Pete, Blind Mikey etc. The press give us exposes on the not so nice HMs and so it goes on. Siavash is making it up, it is not an historical event, it is a plan in the making, so as to gain a higher status and win.
Conman Status!

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Originally posted by felix:
I am appalled with this charity con he has used to beat Marcus in yesterdays eviction. People have actually voted for him and are spending their cash, under the pretext he will donate it all to charity. This is the lowest form of conning, the only way anyone will ever know if he is truthful, is if he wins... again the public will spend their cash to find this out.

People can mock and think it great, but I find it deeply disturbing, and goes beyond a popularity contest.

His vain camera singing after the eviction, was yet another 'vote for me appeal'.

The smuggish way he posed in the diary room, while slating Charlie, confirmed yet again, his desperation to gain votes.

The overinflated ego has gone into overdrive!

Your flogging a dead horse here im afraid, the guys on here have already decided that he can do no wrong (but of course if anyone else had of behaved as Siavash has done in the last few weeks they would have been slaughtered for it).

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by fz:
Isnt this thread title a couple of weeks premature.....kind of like posting a " didnt charlie look gutted when he lost" thread?.....hhhmmmm actually

You always make me laugh, but no, not premature Fz. The urgency is now, this is a ploy for winning the prize, whether he donates it all or some or none, he is desperate to win.
My disgust is in this being allowed to 'con' the public into parting with their cash, under the pretence he will definitely donate to charity.

I aim to please But seriously, after charlies mum in a coma tale...I think anything goes. Whats sauce for the goose etc etc etc....just because charlie says private health care would get his winnings doesnt make it true. And equally he shouldnt have then been aired saying that...trying to make us all stop thinking he is a complete twat, and pick up our phones in droves to keep him in....In fact I'd have more faith in siavash fulfilling his pledge.

Either way...it is all speculation and it's not as though siavash wasnt a contender to win before his charidee speech.

I have to say, I agree BB should not let us know the HMs predicaments, but they allow us info for actual events and circumstance, re: Liams mum, Tourettes Pete, Blind Mikey etc. The press give us exposes on the not so nice HMs and so it goes on. Siavash is making it up, it is not an historical event, it is a plan in the making, so as to gain a higher status and win.
Conman Status!

I disagree ...charlies mum exists and charities exist - this much we know as fact....whether either will benefit from the prize fund we have no idea of knowing. Whether siavash said it ten weeks ago or ten hours ago doesnt make it any more or less likely to happen.

Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

You really are Irish after all.

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Are you serious??? you think Marcus went yesterday because siavash talked about some mone y going to charity???? Get real!!!

You are allowed to be constructive, but to get real, that would require BB to haul siavash into the DR to either confirm or retract his intentions. If he confirms, then charity wins, he can have the glory, because he will no doubt win. If he backtracks, he may as well go and do the graveyard shift under Marcus' duvet!
Either way don't 'con' or shit on other HMs chances with this bullshite! IMO!

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Originally posted by Nemesis:

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

You really are Irish after all.

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

Only Siavash fans.

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Nemesis:

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

You really are Irish after all.

What would Nom Nom Nom say?

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

Only Siavash fans.

Hi Vid I think I'm said and done, I hope the public don't part with too much cash for this
scumbag!

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

Only Siavash fans.

Hi Vid I think I'm said and done, I hope the public don't part with too much cash for this
scumbag!

Hi Felix.

I wouldn't go as far as to call hm a scumbag lol, BUT Im certainly onto his selfish actions in there and I just cant support him anymore.

It always surprises me (although I dont know why) that every year theres at least one HM that can do no wrong in the eyes of the public, even tho they are constantly doing wrong.

I hate this business of talking about what they would do with the winnings.
I don`t think we should hear that.
Whoever wins should take the money and keep quiet. It shouldn`t be part of influencing voters.

I am surprised that a number of people like Siavash.
I have found him rather shallow.
Tries to sound wise but has done so many things wrong and made so many misjudgments.
I don`t think he is cool or fashionable. I think he looks very silly.
Perhaps the fancy-dress-shop is used to hide insecurities and inadequacies.
I think he is something of a "fly-by-night", and I wouldn`t trust him.
He might be honest in "fair weather" but less so when things cloud over.
I have found him to be a very dull housemate

I like untrustworthy types. or those in leotards.

He's a 23 year old guy on a reality tv show, anything can be shown or edited by whim of a tv company, as can all hm's. He is not the only one to be talking about charity, or not wanting the money, or not bothered etc. etc.
It's just a tv show, for entertainment. I think for his age he has shown maturity beyond his years and more wisdom than many ppl will ever have in a lifetime.
As for conman, fm's seem to have him sussed either/or guess the public will too, so there's no problem is there?

I have been disappointed in siavash in the last few weeks.
I originally thought he was the voice of reason in a house of freaks and desperados but now realise that he was one of them all the time.
His refusing to nominate and talking of giving the money to charity just comes across to me as desperate game playing to fool the public.
I still would rather he won over Charlie and Lisa though.
Its a very poor final in the choice of hms left to vote for.

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Siavash to WIN... he is the only honest one in there!! most people can actually see that!

Only Siavash fans.

Hi Vid I think I'm said and done, I hope the public don't part with too much cash for this
scumbag!

Hi Felix.

I wouldn't go as far as to call hm a scumbag lol, BUT Im certainly onto his selfish actions in there and I just cant support him anymore.

It always surprises me (although I dont know why) that every year theres at least one HM that can do no wrong in the eyes of the public, even tho they are constantly doing wrong.

Very true

If I may just have a likkle insy input on this scenario.Would I be right/or not as the case may be that Siavash said,that's if we are putting it in the right context,if you are not bothered about the money BB could give it to charity!I do not remember him saying that if he won the 100 grand that he would give it to charity! At the point when he said this there was NO MONEY..... it was a hypthetical suggestion only!
Now as for the no nominations on his part.... this was the 'game' that he was refusing to take part in..... now as i see it,it was more than clear what was happening in the house.. certain HMs were being picked off one by one because of Lisa's strategy of gathering as many troops around her as possible.She did not have to say to her troops vote this way or that but what she could do is point out certain misgivings on her part about certain individuals in the house which she did on many occassions. A word dropped here a dirty look there was her method of making her little gang aware of her likes and dislikes! Lisa is a very strong dominating character who as well as being very aggressive is also capable of putting on the charm......she actually feels superior to some the HMs in there in much the same way as Bea did! She is very controlling hense the way she leads David round as her favourite lap dog.
My point is in Siavashes defence he was very aware what was going on, as was Freddie...this is why Siavash wanted it to be more of a level playing field!
Now this is my opinion and you have the option to agree or disagree with what I have said!
Remember what Lisa said.." God bless you" to her 'mates' for keeping her in!!!

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Exactly! He took himself out of the game ages ago, so he should not be in any position to be winning anything!

In a conversation with Sophie one night last week (reported on CH4 but not shown on the highlight show)Siavash said that 'as he had taken himself out of the game he didn't think he should be entitled to the money if he won and therefore he'd give it away to charity'.

I have no reason to disbelieve him.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Exactly! He took himself out of the game ages ago, so he should not be in any position to be winning anything!

In a conversation with Sophie one night last week (reported on CH4 but not shown on the highlight show)Siavash said that 'as he had taken himself out of the game he didn't think he should be entitled to the money if he won and therefore he'd give it away to charity'.

I have no reason to disbelieve him.

If that is the case, then why did he just tell Sophie and no-one else?

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
Charlie OUT !!!

Slyavash is desperate to be seen as Mr Nice Guy. His stupid refusing to nominate has lost him the big prize.