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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
This is how I saw it too.

people must not forget that it's a small space and they are together 24/7. It would be impossible for anybody not to hear or pick up on "whispers" about people and Siavash is very perceptive.

We saw for ourselves how the gang discussed Siavash himself out in the garden when he wasn't with them and then decided to round on him in the sitting room with all sorts of nonsense about his image and their accusations about his own "game playing". For instance, Kris had been talking behind his back about his job and had come to his own conclusions that Siavash was lying about it in some way.
Would friends do this?
Siavash knows they are not friends and he knows not to trust them.

He spoke to Noirin about his thoughts concerning how she was being perceived by that group and he did say the names Karly and Kris and no doubt he was right. He advised her simply because he wanted her to know they did not see her as a friend, even if she thought of them as such. As Marcus said, they have no use for an "independent" person. It was advice not to trust them and he asked her to keep it to herself. So what does she do?

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At one point when Freddie said Siavash' advice came from a friendly place, she turned to Karly and said "What? Lies?" and I was incredulous because why are they such trustworthy people when there is so much evidence that they are NOT.
Not only did she rush straight in to an argument, she has shown that she wasn't friends with Siavash either! And we know she has repeatedly nominated Freddie. This pretence of liking both sets of people, when she clearly doesn't has been dragged into the open and she doesn't like it.

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
This is how I saw it too.

people must not forget that it's a small space and they are together 24/7. It would be impossible for anybody not to hear or pick up on "whispers" about people and Siavash is very perceptive.

We saw for ourselves how the gang discussed Siavash himself out in the garden when he wasn't with them and then decided to round on him in the sitting room with all sorts of nonsense about his image and their accusations about his own "game playing". For instance, Kris had been talking behind his back about his job and had come to his own conclusions that Siavash was lying about it in some way.
Would friends do this?
Siavash knows they are not friends and he knows not to trust them.

He spoke to Noirin about his thoughts concerning how she was being perceived by that group and he did say the names Karly and Kris and no doubt he was right. He advised her simply because he wanted her to know they did not see her as a friend, even if she thought of them as such. As Marcus said, they have no use for an "independent" person. It was advice not to trust them and he asked her to keep it to herself. So what does she do?

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At one point when Freddie said Siavash' advice came from a friendly place, she turned to Karly and said "What? Lies?" and I was incredulous because why are they such trustworthy people when there is so much evidence that they are NOT.
Not only did she rush straight in to an argument, she has shown that she wasn't friends with Siavash either! And we know she has repeatedly nominated Freddie. This pretence of liking both sets of people, when she clearly doesn't has been dragged into the open and she doesn't like it.

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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
IMO Saviash is trying to cover his butt now....He lied as did Freddie and Marcus...He said he never mentioned any names when he clearly did ....Freddy was not in the loo but sat right there...Saviashs previous comment to Noirin about wanting her on side imo was indicative of why he later said what he did...It backfired on him he knows he did and damage limitation is the order of the day.

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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
IMO Saviash is trying to cover his butt now....He lied as did Freddie and Marcus...He said he never mentioned any names when he clearly did ....Freddy was not in the loo but sat right there...Saviashs previous comment to Noirin about wanting her on side imo was indicative of why he later said what he did...It backfired on him he knows he did and damage limitation is the order of the day.

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Originally posted by inkas pal:
It is getting pathetic that because the forum faves have been exposed as liars that the 'Forum Cool Gang' are doing back flips in a desperate and futile attempt to justify/vindicate the liars.

The source of the issue stemmed from Siavash, Freddie and Marcus trying to enlist Noirin into their 'Nom's caucus'.

The lying stemmed from that.

But lets not let the truth/facts get in the way of the Cool Gang here spinning for damage limitation.

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Originally posted by kimota:
Siavash is forgetting exactly what he said which is easily done, but he clearly said that 'rabbit is the name they have for you' When pushed by the others to name names he replied 'karly and Kris'

Personally I think he did overheard something along those lines said about Noirin and felt he should tell her as he feels she should, in her own interests ally herself more solidly with the 'outsider' group. His point was that Lisa's group don't really see her as one of their own whereas she could be a full member of the 'outsiders' if she chooses to be.

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

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Originally posted by inkas pal:
It is getting pathetic that because the forum faves have been exposed as liars that the 'Forum Cool Gang' are doing back flips in a desperate and futile attempt to justify/vindicate the liars.

The source of the issue stemmed from Siavash, Freddie and Marcus trying to enlist Noirin into their 'Nom's caucus'.

The lying stemmed from that.

But lets not let the truth/facts get in the way of the Cool Gang here spinning for damage limitation.

Why not stick to discussing the housemates rather than who is in this so called Forum Cool gang.

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Originally posted by inkas pal:

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

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Originally posted by inkas pal:
It is getting pathetic that because the forum faves have been exposed as liars that the 'Forum Cool Gang' are doing back flips in a desperate and futile attempt to justify/vindicate the liars.

The source of the issue stemmed from Siavash, Freddie and Marcus trying to enlist Noirin into their 'Nom's caucus'.

The lying stemmed from that.

But lets not let the truth/facts get in the way of the Cool Gang here spinning for damage limitation.

Why not stick to discussing the housemates rather than who is in this so called Forum Cool gang.

Okay.

Siavash and Freddie lied.

Should their lying be condoned?

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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
IMO Saviash is trying to cover his butt now....He lied as did Freddie and Marcus...He said he never mentioned any names when he clearly did ....Freddy was not in the loo but sat right there...Saviashs previous comment to Noirin about wanting her on side imo was indicative of why he later said what he did...It backfired on him he knows he did and damage limitation is the order of the day.

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Originally posted by inkas pal:

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

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Originally posted by inkas pal:
It is getting pathetic that because the forum faves have been exposed as liars that the 'Forum Cool Gang' are doing back flips in a desperate and futile attempt to justify/vindicate the liars.

The source of the issue stemmed from Siavash, Freddie and Marcus trying to enlist Noirin into their 'Nom's caucus'.

The lying stemmed from that.

But lets not let the truth/facts get in the way of the Cool Gang here spinning for damage limitation.

Why not stick to discussing the housemates rather than who is in this so called Forum Cool gang.

Okay.

Siavash and Freddie lied.

Should their lying be condoned?

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Originally posted by kimota:
Siavash is forgetting exactly what he said which is easily done, but he clearly said that 'rabbit is the name they have for you' When pushed by the others to name names he replied 'karly and Kris'

Personally I think he did overheard something along those lines said about Noirin and felt he should tell her as he feels she should, in her own interests ally herself more solidly with the 'outsider' group. His point was that Lisa's group don't really see her as one of their own whereas she could be a full member of the 'outsiders' if she chooses to be.

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Originally posted by theAteam:
Just as I thought, as others have been pointing out he didn't say Kris and karly did say it but thats what he thought they were thinking from a conversation he heard.

Well done Siavash

Siavash discussed the housemates' "bunny" argument in a Diary Room chat yesterday.

The events organiser explained that he had been trying to help Noirin.

"I thought I'd give Noirin some good advice, and she threw it back in my face," he remarked. "I think she's playing a game and wants to turn people against me. It's like I've started a huge argument, and I would never do that. It would go against all my beliefs."

Siavash added that although he did mention Kris and Karly's names, he said that he thought they had said Noirin was a rabbit, not that they had told him that.

"I advised her for her own good and she turned it round," he sighed. "I did enjoy spending time with her and hanging out with her, I thought she was a right laugh. But I don't think she's a friend now."

The 23-year-old insisted that he had not made the accusations up, revealing that the comments had taken place during a conversation about cigarettes. "I know they think that," he noted. "It's easy to read them."

However, Siavash added: "Freddie, I appreciated that he stood up for me. I won't forget that. I'm starting to like him more and more. I think he is a really nice guy."

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
This is how I saw it too.

people must not forget that it's a small space and they are together 24/7. It would be impossible for anybody not to hear or pick up on "whispers" about people and Siavash is very perceptive.

We saw for ourselves how the gang discussed Siavash himself out in the garden when he wasn't with them and then decided to round on him in the sitting room with all sorts of nonsense about his image and their accusations about his own "game playing". For instance, Kris had been talking behind his back about his job and had come to his own conclusions that Siavash was lying about it in some way.
Would friends do this?
Siavash knows they are not friends and he knows not to trust them.

He spoke to Noirin about his thoughts concerning how she was being perceived by that group and he did say the names Karly and Kris and no doubt he was right. He advised her simply because he wanted her to know they did not see her as a friend, even if she thought of them as such. As Marcus said, they have no use for an "independent" person. It was advice not to trust them and he asked her to keep it to herself. So what does she do?

***********************************************

At one point when Freddie said Siavash' advice came from a friendly place, she turned to Karly and said "What? Lies?" and I was incredulous because why are they such trustworthy people when there is so much evidence that they are NOT.
Not only did she rush straight in to an argument, she has shown that she wasn't friends with Siavash either! And we know she has repeatedly nominated Freddie. This pretence of liking both sets of people, when she clearly doesn't has been dragged into the open and she doesn't like it.

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Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:

Why not stick to discussing the housemates rather than who is in this so called Forum Cool gang.