he fought noirin wan't gonna be as serious as she was with the buny rabbit idea, and he was surprized with how she reacted, and he was tying to make noirim look like she was spreding shit about him!!! god he swore down on his moms life that he didn't mension any1, n he mensioned karly n chris, what a ****ing shit hed, hope he goes next weak
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Did he swear on his parents lives? 
I lost track of how many parents were going to be struck dead that night!
I lost track of how many parents were going to be struck dead that night!
The parents of housemates must be on their knees from launch night onwards.
quote:Originally posted by Hotpants Helen:
The parents of housemates must be on their knees from launch night onwards.
As long as Sophie's chihuahua is OK!
I was well shocked! 
Then again, Noirin did "feed him to the lions".. but then he WAS lying!! Very puzzled. Think Siavash will be very embarressed once he woke up the next day! 
Freddie should be too!! But probably wont!
Then again, Noirin did "feed him to the lions".. but then he WAS lying!! Very puzzled. Think Siavash will be very embarressed once he woke up the next day! Freddie should be too!! But probably wont! 
have just started another thread LMS saying excatly the same thing, they both Lied.
The with this assumption is that we have no idea whether Kris and Karly really did call Noirin "a rabbit" or whether Noirin was bitching about others / had confided in Siavash. We see a minute part of the action. They may have done exactly as Siavash said. Or not. Unless I'm missing something...?
some other FMs have said that Karly & Kris (at the bus stop.. with a rolly) did call Noirin a rabbit and that Siavash was present but Freddie was not.. perhaps that is where the confusion lay?
that's not taking away from the fact that Siavash didn't stand by what he said when she (Noirin) went running into the bedroom in righteous indignation having promised she would keep his confidence..
but he redeemed himself slightly, in my eyes, when he basically called them a bunch of dickheads..
that's not taking away from the fact that Siavash didn't stand by what he said when she (Noirin) went running into the bedroom in righteous indignation having promised she would keep his confidence..
but he redeemed himself slightly, in my eyes, when he basically called them a bunch of dickheads..
quote:Originally posted by tupps:
but he redeemed himself slightly, in my eyes, when he basically called them a bunch of dickheads..
Oh yeah...
quote:Originally posted by tupps:
some other FMs have said that Karly & Kris (at the bus stop.. with a rolly) did call Noirin a rabbit and that Siavash was present but Freddie was not.. perhaps that is where the confusion lay?
that's not taking away from the fact that Siavash didn't stand by what he said when she (Noirin) went running into the bedroom in righteous indignation having promised she would keep his confidence..
but he redeemed himself slightly, in my eyes, when he basically called them a bunch of dickheads..
As Marcus said, she fed him to the lions and that was bang out of order.
Noirin forced him to say something and promised not to go further with it
It was Lisa who called her a bunny
It was Lisa who called her a bunny
I'm sure Davina said it was an Entertainment show, so if they Lie, so what they are all playing a game, and the cleverest one wins, same as last year.
Fly under the radar and don't go round handing out amunition.
Fly under the radar and don't go round handing out amunition.
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well 
I was so disappointed with Saviash tbvh....Let's be honest here for a second if he'd done this to Freddy there'd be outrage but as it was Noirin it don't seem to matter to most.
quote:Originally posted by clumsycat:
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well
One thing that alerted me was the fact that Karly didn't ask for elaboration on what exactly she's supposed to have said but immediately demanded who had said it. Sometimes that indicates someone assessing whether the source was reliable (i.e. someone that had been directly invovled in the incident therefore fully aware of the truth; third party sources are easier to deny).
quote:Originally posted by clumsycat:
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well
Freddy hit the nail on the head, when he pointed at Karly etc and said that he would believe Siavash over any of them
Siavash was not lying..Noirin asked "who said it to you"..Back in the lounge after the hopping comment was made Siavash was quite clearly heard saying the comment was not made to him..therefore not lying. He had overheard Lisa and crew making noises about Noirin going from one group to another..and was giving her a friendly warning...Now he Knows..My take on it is that Saivash should have known better than to trust her in the first place.
Morning Sunset ..
Morning Sunset ..
quote:Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:quote:Originally posted by clumsycat:
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well
One thing that alerted me was the fact that Karly didn't ask for elaboration on what exactly she's supposed to have said but immediately demanded who had said it. Sometimes that indicates someone assessing whether the source was reliable (i.e. someone that had been directly invovled in the incident therefore fully aware of the truth; third party sources are easier to deny).
Exactly, when she asked Rodrigo he asked what was meant by the term, Karly knew what it meant!!
ooh i cant believe noirin. For christs sake, what the hell is wrong with saying someone goes talking back and forth.
That woman is such a drama queen. I cant honestly watch her anymore, she has some serious issues and takes everything wrong.
Yeah Siavash shouldnt have said it but my god was she over the top! Its biddy obvious they are all going to talk about eachother!
That woman is such a drama queen. I cant honestly watch her anymore, she has some serious issues and takes everything wrong.
Yeah Siavash shouldnt have said it but my god was she over the top! Its biddy obvious they are all going to talk about eachother!
this year we have the worst house for cliques & unfortunatly there is a massive one consisting of bitchy liars ... noirin has just chosen her side .. methinks they will repay her through noms... thats karma for you
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:quote:Originally posted by clumsycat:
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well
One thing that alerted me was the fact that Karly didn't ask for elaboration on what exactly she's supposed to have said but immediately demanded who had said it. Sometimes that indicates someone assessing whether the source was reliable (i.e. someone that had been directly invovled in the incident therefore fully aware of the truth; third party sources are easier to deny).
Exactly, when she asked Rodrigo he asked what was meant by the term, Karly knew what it meant!!
Uh huh. If someone had accused me of calling them a rabbit I would have thought it meant I was implying she was...promiscuous. I definitely would have asked for clarification.
They lied and that's that. Marcus hadn't the balls to go against Siavash. Freddie was sitting right beside Noirin when Siavash said it.
I thought Siavash could win but now that Noirin blew his game plan wide open we might see a different person.
I thought Siavash could win but now that Noirin blew his game plan wide open we might see a different person.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by clumsycat:
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well
Freddy hit the nail on the head, when he pointed at Karly etc and said that he would believe Siavash over any of them
That was great
He said - "I have no reason to doubt Siavash's honesty, and I have every reason to doubt your honesty!"
G'wan Freddie lad!
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:
He said - "I have no reason to doubt Siavash's honesty, and I have every reason to doubt your honesty!"
G'wan Freddie lad!
Yes that was it! Great words and delivered majestically
oh for gods sake, whats the big deal! She has just made them feel like they cant nominate her now. She is a WINGE bag and just doesnt stop moaning about something.
She DOES go from person to person she must realise its a game, they want to win a lot of money, she is nieve to think they are her friends, yeah it wasnt nice..but she made such a big deal and show about it. Good on Freddie foe telling her how it is!
She DOES go from person to person she must realise its a game, they want to win a lot of money, she is nieve to think they are her friends, yeah it wasnt nice..but she made such a big deal and show about it. Good on Freddie foe telling her how it is!
but Noirin does bunny hop from group to group.
so maybe her reasons for doing it are about to come under the HMs scrutiny, now it has been pointed out, so she is desperate to plead her case to gain favour with the nasties.
so maybe her reasons for doing it are about to come under the HMs scrutiny, now it has been pointed out, so she is desperate to plead her case to gain favour with the nasties.
quote:Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:quote:Originally posted by clumsycat:
we dont know siavash was lting... after all we are talking about kraphead kris & nasty karly here.. I am more inclined to believe siavash... and kris was oddly quiet as well
One thing that alerted me was the fact that Karly didn't ask for elaboration on what exactly she's supposed to have said but immediately demanded who had said it. Sometimes that indicates someone assessing whether the source was reliable (i.e. someone that had been directly invovled in the incident therefore fully aware of the truth; third party sources are easier to deny).
Exactly, when she asked Rodrigo he asked what was meant by the term, Karly knew what it meant!!
How do we know what they say though? They feed us what we want to see, i didnt see it.
Have they said it? Has anyone seen footage or was siavash making it up..im sure he wasnt
quote:ooh i cant believe noirin. For christs sake, what the hell is wrong with saying someone goes talking back and forth.
That woman is such a drama queen. I cant honestly watch her anymore, she has some serious issues and takes everything wrong.
Yeah Siavash shouldnt have said it but my god was she over the top! Its biddy obvious they are all going to talk about eachother!
proudly supporting siavash!!~~
The crux of 'Rabbitgate' is that team nasty have shown signs, over the past 48 hours, that they may well give Freddie a break from nomination. Noirin thinks Marcus is going this week and therefore next week she thinks they will vote for Siavash and HER. That is why she is trying to ingraciate herself with team nasty.
Didn't work - Lisa wouldn't touch her with a barge pole now - I notice at the start of LF last night she was playing with the children - not the adults.
quote:One thing that alerted me was the fact that Karly didn't ask for elaboration on what exactly she's supposed to have said but immediately demanded who had said it. Sometimes that indicates someone assessing whether the source was reliable (i.e. someone that had been directly invovled in the incident therefore fully aware of the truth; third party sources are easier to deny).
Yeah - the whole of team nasty went into panic mode demanding to know who the source was - they thought they had a sealed ship and the fact that the 'truth' was out there made them think they had a mole. Lisa's reaction was telling - she listened very carefully to the row and thought long and hard about the implications.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:
He said - "I have no reason to doubt Siavash's honesty, and I have every reason to doubt your honesty!"
G'wan Freddie lad!
Yes that was it! Great words and delivered majestically
Yep
Then there was the - "You have repaid him by this spectacle" quote, to nasty Noirin about throwing Siavash under the bus.
T'was a great highlights for Freddie.
quote:Originally posted by Tayto:
They lied and that's that. Marcus hadn't the balls to go against Siavash. Freddie was sitting right beside Noirin when Siavash said it.
I thought Siavash could win but now that Noirin blew his game plan wide open we might see a different person.
Just watched it again .....TBH if I'd been her the frustration knowing all 3 were telling bare faced lies would have drove me crazy...Saviash said it Freddy was sat there as was Marcus yet all denied it later....Wrong imo.
SIavash NEVER actually said that Karly & Chris called her a rabbit. If you listen properly he says I think some people are referring to you like a rabbit becasue of the way you flit from group to group.
I got the impression he was explaining the house dynamics and she took it as literal.
The whole argument live was completely different to what was shown on the highlights.
I got the impression he was explaining the house dynamics and she took it as literal.
The whole argument live was completely different to what was shown on the highlights.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:
Then there was the - "You have repaid him by this spectacle" quote, to nasty Noirin about throwing Siavash under the bus.
T'was a great highlights for Freddie.
A great BB moment and hopefully a defining moment for him
i thought freddie was very entertaining, he made me laugh with his dramatic rant.
Saviash said he never said any names...He did he said Chris and Karly.
shot himself in the fot there.quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
Saviash said he never said any names...He did he said Chris and Karly.
id def beleive siavash over the evil witch karly anyday
that sin't the argument though, it's pretty clear karly did say it at some point, what he lied about was saying he never told noirin who had said it.quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
id def beleive siavash over the evil witch karly anyday
quote:Originally posted by ~LEE~:
Saviash said he never said any names...He did he said Chris and Karly.
But Siavash never actually said he'd heard it from their mouths. He said he thought certain people referred to Noirin in that way and when pushed named Kris and Karly. Who, let's be fair, do sit gossiping and slagging people off at the bus stop.
I think, yes he went about things in the wrong way, but he was only trying to help Noirin and stirring was by no means his intention.
