Originally Posted by Prometheus:
I think those burkas would be slightly less offensive if they put a little bit of mayo on the nose to break up all the black, just a suggestion.
Surely that would make them more appealing - to men & wimmin 
Originally Posted by sproooot:
Originally Posted by Jonesy:
How about tomato and brown sauce mixed together on a bacon sarnie? anyone tried this? 
and maybe with mayo added? Give us an update if you dare try it. 
Ya bein daft now! and maybe with mayo added? Give us an update if you dare try it. 
After watching food progs from the US on Sky, i reckon they must have tried this Even a simple breakfast there has allsorts on the plate. 
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Mind you, I've never seen anyone wearing the second type in the UK
Does yer anchor hold?
Originally Posted by sparkles:
But how is hiding their face more going to make people less against muslims/Islam? 
If anything, it is going to turn people against them more, surely?? If they want to be accepted more, because of 'Islamaphobia,' then surely them hiding behind their burkha is going to make things worse, isn't it?
Because they are reacting against Islamophobia. If anything, it is going to turn people against them more, surely?? If they want to be accepted more, because of 'Islamaphobia,' then surely them hiding behind their burkha is going to make things worse, isn't it?Not trying to be more accepted, but making a stand for their religion.
In their minds, why should they be treated with suspicion because they are Muslims? Why should they hide the fact that they are Muslim? Therefore they embrace the outward signs of their religion, more.
I find it hard to answer this question. I'm not going to lie and be PC here. When I see a woman with a burka on I have to say I do feel insulted on behalf of our country. I know that is daft but it seems that by wearing it they are sticking two fingers up at our way of life and our culture.
When westerners are in strict Moslem countries they have to abide by the culture and rules of that country and there is a part of me that feels this should be the same here.
I completely feel that anyone who works in the public eye - teaching, healthcare etc, should not be allowed to wear one.
BUT at the end of the day, one of the things that makes our country great ( and it is still great IMO) is the fact that we do allow people to practice their religion and also ( whether we totally agree or not) it still is live and let live.
So would I ban it?
No - it is me that has the problem with it if you see what I mean. Therefore I have to over come my prejudices and deal with it.
When westerners are in strict Moslem countries they have to abide by the culture and rules of that country and there is a part of me that feels this should be the same here.
I completely feel that anyone who works in the public eye - teaching, healthcare etc, should not be allowed to wear one.
BUT at the end of the day, one of the things that makes our country great ( and it is still great IMO) is the fact that we do allow people to practice their religion and also ( whether we totally agree or not) it still is live and let live.
So would I ban it?
No - it is me that has the problem with it if you see what I mean. Therefore I have to over come my prejudices and deal with it.
Originally Posted by Issy:
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When westerners are in strict Moslem countries they have to abide by the culture and rules of that country and there is a part of me that feels this should be the same here.
See! This is the bit I don't understand. I'm sure that in the unlikely event that anyone goes to one of these backward countries then they abide with the law.When westerners are in strict Moslem countries they have to abide by the culture and rules of that country and there is a part of me that feels this should be the same here.
But as far as I can see there is no law against wearing a burka here. In fact our Dads fought in the last lot to keep this country as Liberal as possible. There will be no advantage in banning people from doing harmless things.
To be honest I don't even know what "culture and rules" means.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
But as far as I can see there is no law against wearing a burka here. In fact our Dads fought in the last lot to keep this country as Liberal as possible. There will be no advantage in banning people from doing harmless things.
I've got to say, I don't like them, like Cags I find them a bit intimidating or something but thats just the not being able to see the face thing... I certainly don't think they should be banned.
There was a woman wearing one in Asda and I heard her say something, in a really strong East End accent - she also sounded quite young, if you can gauge these things from voice/eyes alone
That would lean more to Blizzie's point about embracing the outward symbol of their religion, rather than someone not integrating or whatever
I do understand what your saying issy. We do respect the ways of their country, we cover our shoulders in morrocco for example, we dont walk about in a bikini. So as we dont wear burkas and have varied reasons why we are against them, why dont they respect that?
No, I don't think it should be banned but where it is a security risk like in banks and airports etc, then I think it should be banned.
There is certainly no need for school children to be wearing it nor their teachers.
There is certainly no need for school children to be wearing it nor their teachers.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Originally Posted by Issy:
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When westerners are in strict Moslem countries they have to abide by the culture and rules of that country and there is a part of me that feels this should be the same here.
See! This is the bit I don't understand. I'm sure that in the unlikely event that anyone goes to one of these backward countries then they abide with the law.When westerners are in strict Moslem countries they have to abide by the culture and rules of that country and there is a part of me that feels this should be the same here.
But as far as I can see there is no law against wearing a burka here. In fact our Dads fought in the last lot to keep this country as Liberal as possible. There will be no advantage in banning people from doing harmless things.
To be honest I don't even know what "culture and rules" means.
UP THE BURkAS
zazz, I'm still waiting on my Burkas mate. What's going on?
I find fat women in lycra more offensive than women wearing burkas. it doesn't bother me a bit if they chose to wear them...anymore than i am offended by jews wearing skullcaps. For doctors, nurses, teachers etc I think the face covering is not good but something like this would be fine .
A lot of nurses wear those already Croc and to be honest they are probably more hygienic as the hair is completely covered up.
Yeah...i'd like them to be made compulsory for chefs!
Definitely - I have a feeling that back in the day it used to be.
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
I find fat women in lycra more offensive than women wearing burkas.
threadbare leggings and a t-shirt? 
Originally Posted by SazBomb:
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
I find fat women in lycra more offensive than women wearing burkas.
threadbare leggings and a t-shirt? Originally Posted by Rawky-Roo:
zazz, I'm still waiting on my Burkas mate. What's going on?
high demand since Gypsie mentioned dodging passport control!
I am now known as Lena KÃķrtig and posting from Berlin. Its a bit nippy
I could go topless in Turkey, but not in Barbados.
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
strethced so tight you can see every stretchmark through them and the t shirt that doesn't get over the belly.
don't wear those again then Croc
''I've been very taken aback about how many women in egypt, Tunesia and Libya are prepared to talk to western stations, risking their lives to tell what's going on''
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tunisa is pretty much a secular society, i seriously doubt any women there risks her life by talking to the western press.
on the topic of burkas , i 'd like to see more of them worn, mostly by the chavs that fall out of bars on a friday night, with their skirts up around their ears and a thongs buried some where deep in the great corpulent rolls of cellulite on display , bring 'em on i say!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tunisa is pretty much a secular society, i seriously doubt any women there risks her life by talking to the western press.
on the topic of burkas , i 'd like to see more of them worn, mostly by the chavs that fall out of bars on a friday night, with their skirts up around their ears and a thongs buried some where deep in the great corpulent rolls of cellulite on display , bring 'em on i say!!
Originally Posted by zazz:
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
strethced so tight you can see every stretchmark through them and the t shirt that doesn't get over the belly.
don't wear those again then Croc
And i only have leggings for use as tights...on account of not being able to get tights long enough.
Reading this thread though was an eye opener....in that it would have been soooo different had the OP been done by PP!
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
Reading this thread though was an eye opener....in that it would have been soooo different had the OP been done by PP!
Oh for goodness sake! Is there really any need for this?! 
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
Reading this thread though was an eye opener....in that it would have been soooo different had the OP been done by PP!
Oh for goodness sake! Is there really any need for this?! Is there really any need for you to stick your oar in looking for a fight on every thread you open?
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
Reading this thread though was an eye opener....in that it would have been soooo different had the OP been done by PP!
Oh for goodness sake! Is there really any need for this?! And an observation. I am allowed them you know.
I think the burkha should be banned in schools and places where there is a high security risk, that is commonsense really if politically incorrect. If Muslim women WANT to wear the things going about their daily business outside of these restrictions then that's fine.....if it's some man forcing them to wear it, then there's a good reason for a total ban.
Part of me thinks it's a great fashion fall back....
Part of wants to tsk and get all middle class Daily Mail...
Part of me thinks this is the UK and people can wear what they like ...
Part of me finds them frustrating and maddening as I can't read faces/gestures...
Mate's facebook update today: A woman in a burkha knocked on the door. I answered her through the letterbox...
Part of wants to tsk and get all middle class Daily Mail...
Part of me thinks this is the UK and people can wear what they like ...
Part of me finds them frustrating and maddening as I can't read faces/gestures...
Mate's facebook update today: A woman in a burkha knocked on the door. I answered her through the letterbox...
This made me smile
Originally Posted by Cariad:
Mate's facebook update today: A woman in a burkha knocked on the door. I answered her through the letterbox...
Damn right too!Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by Cariad:
Mate's facebook update today: A woman in a burkha knocked on the door. I answered her through the letterbox...
Damn right too!Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by Cariad:
Mate's facebook update today: A woman in a burkha knocked on the door. I answered her through the letterbox...
Damn right too! I like that!
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
I think the burkha should be banned in schools and places where there is a high security risk, that is commonsense really if politically incorrect. If Muslim women WANT to wear the things going about their daily business outside of these restrictions then that's fine.....if it's some man forcing them to wear it, then there's a good reason for a total ban.
I agree Kaytee... 
Only for malevolent cats.
Originally Posted by jacksonb:
''I've been very taken aback about how many women in egypt, Tunesia and Libya are prepared to talk to western stations, risking their lives to tell what's going on''
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tunisa is pretty much a secular society, i seriously doubt any women there risks her life by talking to the western press.
on the topic of burkas , i 'd like to see more of them worn, mostly by the chavs that fall out of bars on a friday night, with their skirts up around their ears and a thongs buried some where deep in the great corpulent rolls of cellulite on display , bring 'em on i say!!
Egypt, Tunisia and Lybia.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tunisa is pretty much a secular society, i seriously doubt any women there risks her life by talking to the western press.
on the topic of burkas , i 'd like to see more of them worn, mostly by the chavs that fall out of bars on a friday night, with their skirts up around their ears and a thongs buried some where deep in the great corpulent rolls of cellulite on display , bring 'em on i say!!