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More effective Leadership would help a lot!

As a teacher I wouldn't want to cane anyone (no matter how horrible the children can be).

So do you mind it when they throw things at you?

Of course I would, but I would never stoop to beating them up for it.

Even though they just hit you..i c....so what would your remedy for a pupil be that just threw a chair at you as this sort of behaviour is commen nowadays

Define common. I've never seen it and I've not known any teachers personally who have. I think it happens more in some places than in others.

I don't have the solution. Never suggested I did. But if it was brought back, I wouldn't do it.

Same goes if someone hit me in a pub, I wouldn't hit back. I'd walk away. It's not in my nature to be violent. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't do anything about it of course. I'd let the authorities deal with it.

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I say with modern day problems and children getting away with almost anything it should come back. It was certainly used in my day and most children were well behaved and respected adults. In my day you could get it for doing badly in an exam, nowadays they seem to get away with virtually murder. So what do you think?

Why should it be up to teachers to discipline your child for you?

Furthermore I think it's a bit looking back with rose tinted glasses as regards..the children being well behaved and respecting adults, I think it was more terrified of adults. I work in a solicitors office and the last couple of years we've worked for past pupils of Christian Brothers school where it can safely be said classrooms were ruled with an iron fist. Certainly none of our clients would say they left their schools with any sense of respect for those who used the cane on them.

But that aside, I go back to my original point, it shouldn't be up to teachers to discipline our children.

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I work in a solicitors office and the last couple of years we've worked for past pupils of Christian Brothers school where it can safely be said classrooms were ruled with an iron fist. .

I can remember telling you why my father in law had very unhappy memories of growing up in Ireland (a couple of years ago?) You didn't let slip this gem then agent temps.

I don't think the cane should be bought back...the authority for teachers to deal with unruly kids should be though. Sadly in this age of over the top PC-ness (new word!), the poor teachers are defenseless. I agree that the majority of the discipline issues stem from parenting, yet those we trust with our children for so long, should also be able to discipline them within reason, obviously. The basic lack of respect comes from the fact that the kids know the teachers have no come back.

I was brought up when the cane was used and I don't think it helps anyway
Why encourage children to be violent
There are far more effective ways of making them wish they had behaved rather better
A sharp tongue and humiliation is worse for a child than being hit and then there are the removal of privileges
The parents should also be penalised for allowing bad behaviour to start in the first place

Nope. I don't believe in punishing with violence.

My solution is to humilliate the parents of the little blighter. So if he doesn't behave he must stay at home on a curfew. No hanging around street corners and miss out on a decent education until the parents teach them how to behave.
There are children at school who genuinely want to learn why should they have their education ruined by somebodys spoilt brat?

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I work in a solicitors office and the last couple of years we've worked for past pupils of Christian Brothers school where it can safely be said classrooms were ruled with an iron fist. .

I can remember telling you why my father in law had very unhappy memories of growing up in Ireland (a couple of years ago?) You didn't let slip this gem then agent temps.

You weren't asking me for advice though Agent Joe, you were explaining something to me?

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Define common. I've never seen it and I've not known any teachers personally who have. I think it happens more in some places than in others.

I don't have the solution. Never suggested I did. But if it was brought back, I wouldn't do it.

Same goes if someone hit me in a pub, I wouldn't hit back. I'd walk away. It's not in my nature to be violent. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't do anything about it of course. I'd let the authorities deal with it.

But if it was brought back, would you be happy for another teacher to do the canning for you?