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Originally posted by longcat:
She then told the HMs she said "You have upset me" and he said "good". He was actually saying good to her not speaking to him no more, not that he had upset her.


Yes exactly. The version she relayed to the other HM's bore no resemblance to what actually took place or what was said. She lied, pure and simple.
Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i ddin't think he said'good' at that point, he said'good' when she said ' i think you are horrible'
or maybe i got it wrong, i had the feeling , when watching it that the 'good ' had shifted in the conversation and dave knew he said it and took her word for it, that it occurred when it did.
i think not though.
The word "good" was shifted in the conversation by Bea to give it a totally different context.
longcat
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
She twisted everything to garner sympathy the nasty mare. Mad


You just KNEW, didn't you, that the second she was out of that kitchen she'd be going from one HM to the other to bang on (and exaggerate and LIE) about what a 'bully' Dave is Roll Eyes

The worst part of it for me was all that snivelly pretend crying Sick She's some piece of work.......
FM
quote:
Originally posted by longcat:
quote:
Originally posted by JacksonB:
i ddin't think he said'good' at that point, he said'good' when she said ' i think you are horrible'
or maybe i got it wrong, i had the feeling , when watching it that the 'good ' had shifted in the conversation and dave knew he said it and took her word for it, that it occurred when it did.
i think not though.
The word "good" was shifted in the conversation by Bea to give it a totally different context.
yes, that's what i thought.
jacksonb
quote:
Originally posted by longcat:
She then told the HMs she said "You have upset me" and he said "good". He was actually saying good to her not speaking to him no more, not that he had upset her.


Completely and utterly incorrect!

I can't believe that people can misinterpret such a simple exchange. No wonder witness testimony to a crime is poorly regarded for accuracy.

You are either
a) Incapable of perceiving reality correctly in general
b) Wilfully or subconsciously misrepresenting what happened
c) Or your dislike of Bea is handicapping your ability to perceive a situation accurately and without bias.

He responded to her accusation of him being horrible to her as "good".
Flossie
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Originally posted by evviva!:
quote:
Originally posted by ~LEE~:
She twisted everything to garner sympathy the nasty mare. Mad


You just KNEW, didn't you, that the second she was out of that kitchen she'd be going from one HM to the other to bang on (and exaggerate and LIE) about what a 'bully' Dave is Roll Eyes

The worst part of it for me was all that snivelly pretend crying Sick She's some piece of work.......

Hi gorgeous((((((hugs))))) my smiles aren't working for some reason ....She chooses her targets plants seeds then goes for the kill in any which way she can....Devious devious mare knows how folk react to bullying but imo in this instance the viewers know she choose the wrong HM to accuse of bullying.
~Lee~
Sorry I'm late coming into this - just had network problems. Frowner
Anyway, I've had another look at the appropriate clip (The start of the row) and here's a brief transcript:

Bea: Dave, I genuinely do not know what you’re talking about.
David: Well stop talk[ing] to me then. That's fine by me.
Bea: I think that is really horrible.
David: Good, I'm glad you feel that. At least you're being honest.

So yes, Bea either misinterpreted or wrongly related Dave's comments. Dave was not saying he was glad for being horrible, or glad she thought he was being horrible, but rather he was glad she was being honest about her feelings.
Eugene's Lair
I found that whole episode extremely depressing. Her going on and on especially after shehad quoted David as going on and on about something - quite ironic.
I think BB failing them that last task when it was quite clear that they past on the website was a very stupid move. Maybe they think we like to see Hmts at each others throats cos they're hungrey but I for one find it turn off Tv. Infact I muted Bea, as I'd had enough of her.
Bringing Isaac in was another faux par. Whats wrong with haveing a happy house, or is it this gloom and doom we get on the news symtomatic of our dross society.
Eeker
Reality Junkie
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Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
I found that whole episode extremely depressing. Her going on and on especially after shehad quoted David as going on and on about something - quite ironic.
I think BB failing them that last task when it was quite clear that they past on the website was a very stupid move. Maybe they think we like to see Hmts at each others throats cos they're hungrey but I for one find it turn off Tv. Infact I muted Bea, as I'd had enough of her.
Bringing Isaac in was another faux par. Whats wrong with haveing a happy house, or is it this gloom and doom we get on the news symtomatic of our dross society.
Eeker



Well said to all your points. BB have made one gaff too many in this series.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
quote:
Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
I found that whole episode extremely depressing. Her going on and on especially after shehad quoted David as going on and on about something - quite ironic.
I think BB failing them that last task when it was quite clear that they past on the website was a very stupid move. Maybe they think we like to see Hmts at each others throats cos they're hungrey but I for one find it turn off Tv. Infact I muted Bea, as I'd had enough of her.
Bringing Isaac in was another faux par. Whats wrong with haveing a happy house, or is it this gloom and doom we get on the news symtomatic of our dross society.
Eeker



Well said to all your points. BB have made one gaff too many in this series.

Thanks Senora, we usually seem to agree. Hug
Ive knocked Siavash of my list though, as disappointed in him at mo.
Reality Junkie
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Originally posted by captain marbles:
David had been instructed by Lisa to take Bea on and he duly did so. I thought he was pretty unpleasant to her and gave her tons of ammo with which to blacken his name. It was Dave's mouth saying them but Lisa's words that were coming out.
lmao! I never once saw Lisa saying any of those things to Dave!
He went out to Lisa ranting about how Bea had just asked him about the bread and butter, he was the one who said he'd have her and doesn't take shit from anyone, I just saw Lisa nodding and saying "yeah I know" inbetween puffing on her cigarette!
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I just hope that nine of them are up for nominations this week and Bitch gets voted out not David.
We all know David wouldn't win Brain of Briton,but I felt very sorry for him last night with her lies and verbal abuse of him.He didn't and does not deserve anything like that,he comes across to me as a gentle idiot that wouldn't hurt a fly.
So where's the hippy (Peace and love)Bitch.
B
quote:
Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
I found that whole episode extremely depressing. Her going on and on especially after shehad quoted David as going on and on about something - quite ironic.
I think BB failing them that last task when it was quite clear that they past on the website was a very stupid move. Maybe they think we like to see Hmts at each others throats cos they're hungrey but I for one find it turn off Tv. Infact I muted Bea, as I'd had enough of her.
Bringing Isaac in was another faux par. Whats wrong with haveing a happy house, or is it this gloom and doom we get on the news symtomatic of our dross society.
Eeker


I have to agree. The negativity sought by BB producers goes back to the HM selection process. It seems par for the course for prospective HMs to accentuate the negative rather than the positive in their endeavours to be chosen. It IS quite depressing Reality Junkie and viewers are turning off in their droves - I, for one, have not watched this season's BB as avidly as I have in the past.
I don't feel as though I relate to any one of them.
Triggers
I'm afraid Bea came out of it looking more of a Drama Queen than David.

She also came across poorly, and deeply patronising. Her attitude to Dave has complete snobbery at it's root.

Just when I start liking her, she reminded of why when everyone was gushing about her, I said back then I thought she was a pretend hippy, and very patronising.

I recall my observation at the time wasn't a popular one. Bea is also very opinionated, overbearing, and a very bad listener.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by watcher1:
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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
haven't liked Bea from the start she is sly and devious, I am so glad more of you are seeing it now.

My sensiments too from the first week. I now actually dislike her more than Lisa, hope she's up for noms this week and goes with the highest poll ever. Spiteful cow.
yep me too Nod
LGS
quote:
Originally posted by watcher1:
quote:
Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
haven't liked Bea from the start she is sly and devious, I am so glad more of you are seeing it now.

My sensiments too from the first week. I now actually dislike her more than Lisa, hope she's up for noms this week and goes with the highest poll ever. Spiteful cow.


Yes I do recall LGS, you had her pegged from the word go. Thumbs Up
Senora Reyes
quote:
Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
quote:
Originally posted by watcher1:
quote:
Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
haven't liked Bea from the start she is sly and devious, I am so glad more of you are seeing it now.

My sensiments too from the first week. I now actually dislike her more than Lisa, hope she's up for noms this week and goes with the highest poll ever. Spiteful cow.
yep me too Nod


shes a fake through and through, clever at times but shes not a nice person in any way.
justafriend
quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
I'm afraid Bea came out of it looking more of a Drama Queen than David.

She also came across poorly, and deeply patronising. Her attitude to Dave has complete snobbery at it's root.

Just when I start liking her, she reminded of why when everyone was gushing about her, I said back then I thought she was a pretend hippy, and very patronising.

I recall my observation at the time wasn't a popular one. Bea is also very opinionated, overbearing, and a very bad listener.


She told Big bro' that she was good at listening! Roll Eyes She is as you say very opinionated, very over-bearing, very loud and very snobbish! I might add attention seeking drama queen of the highest order! Shake Head
F
quote:
Originally posted by captain marbles:
David had been instructed by Lisa to take Bea on and he duly did so. I thought he was pretty unpleasant to her and gave her tons of ammo with which to blacken his name. It was Dave's mouth saying them but Lisa's words that were coming out.


what utter rubbish, Dave was aware of the theft accusations been slung about, he objected to it to the manipulating, conniving and lying Beatch
Azure.
quote:
Originally posted by captain marbles:
David had been instructed by Lisa to take Bea on and he duly did so. I thought he was pretty unpleasant to her and gave her tons of ammo with which to blacken his name. It was Dave's mouth saying them but Lisa's words that were coming out.

Exactly, thats a fair reading of it i.m.o. Thumbs Up
FM
When David reported back to his Sorceress Lisa the day before, his version was very different to what had actually happened.
This incident was exacerbated by David being confrontational. He could have calmed it but schoce not to.
Lisa is probably gloating because she thinks she is excaping attention, having her apprentice acting on her behalf.
brisket

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