OI! As a part English , part Welsh , and a smidgen Irish , I want us all to stay together But on a serious note , if the separation from the only part of Britain I don't have any genes from comes, then I think it has total ....and not piecemeal .

True

You could be lucky and the Welsh be next up for a 'go it alone' referendum, followed by the Northern Irish.  Doubt whether the English would ever be allowed to have one, though

 

no they won't...we will be moving your way if you leave us..I'll drive the scenic route via Silloth and Wigton   

Scotland doesn't fancy us anymore  

 

 

 

 

  

 

I'll not mention Silloth again  Flag a blue Picanto down...I'll not be going that fast 

As far as I know, no-one has addressed one of the most pressing issues:

 

In the event of a 'Yes' vote, what happens to Berwick Rangers Football Club?

 

Its stays North...but the speedway comes south 

I think they are free to carry on with their war against Russia, if I have it right.

i hope you get what you want-100%

but ive said before

be careful what you wish for

 

off yer heeeed you are

What about those of us who are British, are we to be avoided too? Do we come under your apparent dislike of the 'english'?

 

I was born in England of Polish and Irish immigrants. I am first generation British and my loyalties lie with the Union that made it possible for my parents, in particular my father, to find a safe haven to settle down after the war. Which incidentally could just has well have been in Scotland as he was moved to barracks there while still in the Polish Free Army while they decided what to do with them after the war ended.

 

Also if the vote is a yes vote do the Scots MP's still get to sit in the Union parliament? I don't think they should if they are leaving the Union.

 

Most of all I find it sad how much hate there is to one of the other countries in the union and they don't even have a devolved parliament of their own to make decisions for themselves, unlike the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish have.

 

I must say, with the hate I see sometimes I am inclined to feel what has been said by others, as Jackson quoted, which is just bugger off then.. and that makes me very sad that I feel like that because of where I happen to live and the fact my fellow Brits 'hate' it...  

 

Really hope we all stay United, I am proud to be British and be part of the 4 countries and traditions the UK encompasses.. but lately I just feel sad about it all and even a tad angry sometimes about some of the things I read putting the English down.. I do understand a lot of it is against   parliament but it does sometimes feel it is against the English people as well

 

endWaffle

 

 

i want you to win

what i DONT want is you to decide is you were better off with england

and you will

personally i think england is better off without you

so i REALLY want you to win

but you wont

cos people know what side their bread is buttered

but all the best too you

when youre gone

youre gone

I'm no going anywhere, so you're stuck with me. I'm voting NAW!

oh yeah

im not very pc

so i kinda say it how i feel

so dont fall out with me

its just my opinion

i dont mean to offend

ok I get the message, altho I am first generation 'English' tho feel British you don't like me or any others cos some people, years ago, stopped you speaking your own language and other historical things. .ok fair enough..

 

Funny how Poland joined the EU which is pretty much run by France and Germany, yet not that long ago Germany had invaded them then suppressed them thru communism in the Eastern block up until the late 80's.. Same for other countries in the EU. .seems they are able to forget history and try to get along. .must be a British thing to not be able to move on then..

 

I understand you have your opinion but it sure makes me feel unliked and unwelcome when you posted what you did.. Funny that, my roots are completely celtic [what with them being being half Irish and Polish, didn't they come from Eastern Europe originally?]  but never mind I was born in England so am to be avoided at all costs....

 

*leaves thread*

 

 

Oh please dont be like that theres good and bad in everything, just trying to explain what our point of view is...and its general not personal

Berwick Rangers are a sleeping giant.  Admittedly, it's a very deep sleep but, one day ...

It really doesn't come across as general..

 

Just saying.. 

 

anyway I shall be sad if the Scots go, I like the diversity.. and I like our Union. . but, I don't like people that diss me cos I wasn't born in the right part of it tho

Olly , as I said before, its the Old Boys Network who run our country who have never been to the lav in their lives that we consider "English"

look at the cricket team..its England and Wales so called but no one calls it that...and yes we do have Welsh players who have played for" England"

and if I'm honest the likes of Jeremy Clarkson and Anne whatshername off some tv show (and countless others)can make deeply offensive remarks about us ...which if we were of another ethnic minority would be called racist..but seem perfectly ok..just saying

That's not the British/English (Whatever you want to call them)public saying that though  (or is it ) 

British is all of us and I like that. But I do have to say that my years spent in different parts of England (same with lots of my friends)we get ..".have you got electricity in your caves?" type jokes over and over..and various other put downs..but as my friend Louise who lives in London and still endures all the put downs, answers, I'm merely here to improve your genepool 

This is why I think a no vote will be a good result.Scotland already has promises of more devolution  and  raising their own taxes.

The Welsh will benefit from that too, because there can be no good arguemnt once these things are passed  on to the Scots they shouldn't also be passed on to the Welsh and the N.Irish.

Once all that has happened, the English regions will be clamering for for more devolution for themselves, as we all know Westminster really does only work for London and S.East.

 

I think all of these things are good things, and we  will owe Scotland  a big thank you, for forcing our domestic politics to evolve in a way that reflects better the people who live here.

I am from London and the South East....and believe me it's not a bed of roses...

Please don't think we all think like that though Amy 

Course not Sprout 

I agree Syd,  it's crammed up and expensive.But it has had massive investment compared to the regions,unemployment through the recession has been a lot lower than the regions,business start ups have been greater.

I have just been reading a bit in t'Manchester Guardian about the vote. The columnist seems to think a Yes vote more likely. Fascinating news!!
No-one knows how this will turn out, but putting my Top Right hat on I hope that we do well out of it. We don't get the same level of support as the South East or Scotland.

AMYTHIST!!!!! how could you swear at us by using the unholy name of Jeremy Clarkson 

 

He'd have everyone who is from or lives in Birmingham exterminated as he hates us 

I'm voting no I cannot stand Alex Salmond nor the SNP.

 

 

 

interesting polls if anyone wants to trawl through them 

 

http://whatscotlandthinks.org/opinion-polls

 

Yes, but  voting yes doesn't mean Mr Salmond will be in power.

A yes outcome does not mean Salmond and SNP for evermore!

Just more anti English Alex Salmond types in the future.

 Sorry Pengles..he is so rude about the Welsh..

Maybe not