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Originally Posted by kimota:

Got this in my email today:

 

Survation for the Daily Record release their final poll on the Scottish independence referendum. Fieldwork was conducted 16-17th September by telephone.

 

Headline voting intention (with change in brackets since our last comparable poll on 13 September):

Yes - 43%

No - 48%

Don't know - 9%

 

Excluding Don't knows:

Yes - 47%

No - 53%

 

A Note on Methodology

 

This poll was conducted by telephone and is therefore comparable to our last telephone poll on 13 September and should not be compared to any polls conducted online.
This poll was conducted by telephone using a systematic random sample of mobiles and landlines, ordered by key strata to reflect the eligible Scottish population. These strata were: age, sex, local authority, income and employment status.

 

Though the poll managed to reach 1266 respondents, it has an effective sample size of 1089. This is due to the sampling strategy employed, which aimed to mitigate some of the biases associated with contacting respondents via landlines. After interviewing a first person via landline, households with multiple eligible occupants were asked for a second response within the household. A Kish Grid was used to assign the eligible participant at random. These double household responses were accounted for in the weighting strategy by applying a factor of 0.5 to both respondents’ weights.

 

Mobile respondents were not asked for a second response. For first household respondents and mobile respondents, only those originally drawn into the sample were invited to to take part in the survey. Other answerers were not interviewed.

As I've said before, polls mean nowt. It's hard votes on the ground that count 

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
 

As I've said before, polls mean nowt. It's hard votes on the ground that count 

 

 

Political polls are usually accurate, not sure this one will be because they have no comparable's  

I don't even think political polls are 

 

But yes, you're right, this is a 'one off' 

FM

 

I am very nervous and fearful of the 1st time voters and the voters getting caught up in the divide and not understanding or caring what they are voting for .... just want to be a piece of history and vote yes without thought because of this

 

my gut feeling and I hope I am right is it will be a NO  but I also think it could be very close 

MrsH
Originally Posted by MrsH:

 

I am very nervous and fearful of the 1st time voters and the voters getting caught up in the divide and not understanding or caring what they are voting for .... just want to be a piece of history and vote yes without thought because of this

 

my gut feeling and I hope I am right is it will be a NO  but I also think it could be very close 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by MrsH:

 

I am very nervous and fearful of the 1st time voters and the voters getting caught up in the divide and not understanding or caring what they are voting for .... just want to be a piece of history and vote yes without thought because of this

 

my gut feeling and I hope I am right is it will be a NO  but I also think it could be very close 

I said that the other night, I'm frightened peeps won't vote with their heads....and I haven't even got a vote  

FM
Originally Posted by kimota:

It will certainly be very close. Sadly there is going to be a lot of resentment from whichever side loses. This isn't a general election where, even if you don't like the result, there is hope of a reversal some time in the future.

Yep, it has repercussions for both sides of the border...

FM
Originally Posted by MrsH:

 

I am very nervous and fearful of the 1st time voters and the voters getting caught up in the divide and not understanding or caring what they are voting for .... just want to be a piece of history and vote yes without thought because of this

 

my gut feeling and I hope I am right is it will be a NO  but I also think it could be very close 

This.    I mentioned yesterday - my niece, on FB... has posted loads of pro-indy links - under one (a statement about currency etc) she said 'LOL - I don't understand what he's saying.. translation please xxxxxxxx' and named some friend who promptly told her what to think.     She has no grasp of the issues, on 10th Sept she was undecided, didn't understand "half the words they say"  (read this text peppered with 'like' and 'LOL' and 'ah ken..') and she was immediately pounced on by loads of Yes voters telling her what to think.   She's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.. and within two days, she's a flippin' cybernat!     That's the sort of vote I fear will give us the worst outcome.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by MrsH:

 

I am very nervous and fearful of the 1st time voters and the voters getting caught up in the divide and not understanding or caring what they are voting for .... just want to be a piece of history and vote yes without thought because of this

 

my gut feeling and I hope I am right is it will be a NO  but I also think it could be very close 

This.    I mentioned yesterday - my niece, on FB... has posted loads of pro-indy links - under one (a statement about currency etc) she said 'LOL - I don't understand what he's saying.. translation please xxxxxxxx' and named some friend who promptly told her what to think.     She has no grasp of the issues, on 10th Sept she was undecided, didn't understand "half the words they say"  (read this text peppered with 'like' and 'LOL' and 'ah ken..') and she was immediately pounced on by loads of Yes voters telling her what to think.   She's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.. and within two days, she's a flippin' cybernat!     That's the sort of vote I fear will give us the worst outcome.

That's what worries me. Great ploy by the 'Almighty' to include youngsters in the vote.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
My Dad would have been 90 tomorrow (18th ) and I know that he would have found it all totally surreal!
I just had a 'phone call telling me that my first girlfriend collapsed and died.
You can't blame me for not taking this nationalist stuff very seriously.

Commiserations Carport.  

 

But I bet your Dad would actually have enjoyed the current nonsense if you're anyone to go by. 

Xochi
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

18 months to sort it all out , is ludicrous, so much of what would happen is in the unknown box.

 

If they do manage it in 18 months, it's going to be a bodge job and  the UK gov. of the time will not be able to achieve anything at all, because everything will change 10 months down the line.

 

Madness.

I just wish it was anyone but the two fishes: neither seem particularly bright or likeable, but both, no doubt will appeal to some. Saddest day in UK history in my lifetime

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can I just say, I predicted 2 years ago that Scotland would vote YES for independence, when it looked a certainty that the NO's would have it won.

 

My Gran (who is 3/4ths Scottish) doesn't agree with me tho. lol

And hopefully you'll be wrong again

And when have I ever been wrong (don't answer) ?

Videostar
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I am!

 

I am hoping with all my heart that we stay together and will be putting my cross in the NO box.

 

Thanks to lovely FMs on here for your support, and for holding my hand when it was all getting too much to bear.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

   me too.    I'm having my toast then I'm off to vote before work.   I've got to go 'home' to the polling station - moved too close the polling date to change my address... which is a bummer because I'm looking across the road at the local polling station as I type!

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I am!

 

I am hoping with all my heart that we stay together and will be putting my cross in the NO box.

 

Thanks to lovely FMs on here for your support, and for holding my hand when it was all getting too much to bear.

^^ What Yogi said!     Let's go do it, Yogi!   

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I am!

 

I am hoping with all my heart that we stay together and will be putting my cross in the NO box.

 

Thanks to lovely FMs on here for your support, and for holding my hand when it was all getting too much to bear.

^^ What Yogi said!     Let's go do it, Yogi!   

 I've been out and cast my vote. 

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I am!

 

I am hoping with all my heart that we stay together and will be putting my cross in the NO box.

 

Thanks to lovely FMs on here for your support, and for holding my hand when it was all getting too much to bear.

^^ What Yogi said!     Let's go do it, Yogi!   

 I've been out and cast my vote. 

me too... did you do what I did and almost break the tip off the pencil with the force I marked that big X in the'no' box?   

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I am!

 

I am hoping with all my heart that we stay together and will be putting my cross in the NO box.

 

Thanks to lovely FMs on here for your support, and for holding my hand when it was all getting too much to bear.

^^ What Yogi said!     Let's go do it, Yogi!   

 I've been out and cast my vote. 

me too... did you do what I did and almost break the tip off the pencil with the force I marked that big X in the'no' box?   

 

FM
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I am!

 

I am hoping with all my heart that we stay together and will be putting my cross in the NO box.

 

Thanks to lovely FMs on here for your support, and for holding my hand when it was all getting too much to bear.

^^ What Yogi said!     Let's go do it, Yogi!   

 I've been out and cast my vote. 

me too... did you do what I did and almost break the tip off the pencil with the force I marked that big X in the'no' box?   

 More or less. There will be no dubiety about my vote.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

Hope all you Scots are up and eager  to cast your vote.

 

I personally hope  we stay together, but I wish you all well and hope we are still compatriots  in the morning.

 

I second what Jackson said   

Just popped in to say I third that and I hope that this time tomorrow we are still a United Kingdom ...in every sense of the word

Baz
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

latest betting...hope it stays like this and the bookies are right  if you click on the attachment you will see the yes vote is drifting and the no vote closing in the betting 

Meant to post this yesterday:
Incredibly, Betfair have already paid out on "No" bets!

They decided earlier in the week that a "No" result was most likely. The payouts are only for their sportsbook operation though - not online.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29232538

Eugene's Lair
Last edited by Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

latest betting...hope it stays like this and the bookies are right  if you click on the attachment you will see the yes vote is drifting and the no vote closing in the betting 

Meant to post this yesterday:
Incredibly, Betfair have already paid out on "No" bets!

They decided earlier in the week that a "No" result was most likely. The payouts are only for their sportsbook operation though - not online.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29232538

 

 

yes they paid out two days ago Eugene, strange but true 

Dame_Ann_Average

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