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Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:

Cologne,  All the network operators signed a letter on Friday saying the prices would go UP.

Oh great. What about landlines?

BT signed too, I'm afraid.

The theory is that if Scotland vote 'Yes' then it'll be international rates on phone calls.

 

Of course, nothing is ever set in stone and some operators may play the tariff/pricing war game instead.

Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:

Cologne,  All the network operators signed a letter on Friday saying the prices would go UP.

Oh great. What about landlines?

BT signed too, I'm afraid.

The theory is that if Scotland vote 'Yes' then it'll be international rates on phone calls.

 

Of course, nothing is ever set in stone and some operators may play the tariff/pricing war game instead.

 

shit 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by MrsH:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
 

I don't know if they'll do it like an election. Council by council or what    I just heard on a trailer on the BBC for a programme on Thursday night 

 

looks like it 

 

both ITV and BBC have coverage Thursday night from 10.40 - 6.00am

 

 

I don't know whether it's worth putting a day's holiday in 

FM
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

If I were in Scotland, I'd vote 'yes'. The London based establishment is hell bent on privatising everything. Asset striping the state for the benefit of the monied shareholding classes, their hedge fund mates and bosses to leech off the less well off.  Just as they run the economy for the benefit of the property affluent on the back of credit bubbles.

I expect any future Government in Scotland will have much the same ambitions.

It may, but we pretty much know for certain that a London based Tory government will and a London based Labour government probably will. 

 

I expect that the type of government they'll get is one that spouts lefty platitudes while cutting tax for corps and privatisation by stealth.

Carnelian

My mate's married to an English bloke, they live just outside Edinburgh in a quiet wee town.    Yesterday he was shouted and sworn at several times for wearing a small 'No thanks' badge on his lapel.   Later that evening someone came right up in his face, calling him an English bastard and were about to start on her until they heard her Scottish accent and they walked off.    

 

And they say it's not about racial hatred...  

Kaffs
Last edited by Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

My mate's married to an English bloke, they live just outside Edinburgh in a quiet wee town.    Yesterday he was shouted and sworn at several times for wearing a small 'No thanks' badge on his lapel.   Later that evening someone came right up in his face, calling him an English bastard and were about to start on her until they heard her Scottish accent and they walked off.    

 

And they say it's not about racial hatred...  

...on the altar of Salmond's and his wee sidekick's ambitions.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

My mate's married to an English bloke, they live just outside Edinburgh in a quiet wee town.    Yesterday he was shouted and sworn at several times for wearing a small 'No thanks' badge on his lapel.   Later that evening someone came right up in his face, calling him an English bastard and were about to start on her until they heard her Scottish accent and they walked off.    

 

And they say it's not about racial hatred...  

Bleedin hell 

FM
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

I give you 2 questions:

 

1) Can anyone say for certain what life will be like in 5 years under a Westminster government?

 

2) Can anyone say for certain what life will be like in 5 years under a stand-alone Scottish government?

 

To me the answer to both questions is quite emphatically NO!

 

So what's so scary about one over the other?

On point 1.  Indeed, Boris Johnson could be the PM in a coalition with Ukip and we could have left the EU.

 

Maybe independence is less of a risk than staying in the UK.

I had a conversation only this week with a friend who has predicted that Boris will not only be Tory party leader, but PM in 2020.

#Scary

Cold Sweat
Originally Posted by Aquarius:

Fingers crossed that sanity prevails this week.

Thanks again guys, great meeting up with you again.

Hi Aquarius. Trouble is that BOTH sides will think that 'sanity has prevailed' ONLY if the result comes out their way. The YES side will say that we have NOT done the 'right thing' if the result is no and the NO side will claim the 'right thing' has not been done if the result is yes.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
 

I was watching the news and they reported on this. She never said either yay or nay. She has to be seen to be not getting involved 

 

she said think carefully...there is no way on this earth she wants Scotland to be separate 

According to hubby she didn't - it was said by someone else that she said that, but there's no record of HER actually saying it.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

I give you 2 questions:

 

1) Can anyone say for certain what life will be like in 5 years under a Westminster government?

 

2) Can anyone say for certain what life will be like in 5 years under a stand-alone Scottish government?

 

To me the answer to both questions is quite emphatically NO!

 

So what's so scary about one over the other?

On point 1.  Indeed, Boris Johnson could be the PM in a coalition with Ukip and we could have left the EU.

 

Maybe independence is less of a risk than staying in the UK.

I had a conversation only this week with a friend who has predicted that Boris will not only be Tory party leader, but PM in 2020.

#Scary

And you wonder why we want away!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

My mate's married to an English bloke, they live just outside Edinburgh in a quiet wee town.    Yesterday he was shouted and sworn at several times for wearing a small 'No thanks' badge on his lapel.   Later that evening someone came right up in his face, calling him an English bastard and were about to start on her until they heard her Scottish accent and they walked off.    

 

And they say it's not about racial hatred...  

As a Scot who has been married to an Englishman for 33 years, I can concur that it categorically is about racial hatred. Some try to dress it up as hatred of a "Westminster government", but hubby and I have experienced far too much of it to be fooled.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
 

According to hubby she didn't - it was said by someone else that she said that, but there's no record of HER actually saying it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-s...nd-politics-29200359

 

The Queen has said she hopes "people will think very carefully about the future" ahead of the Scottish independence referendum.

The comment was made to a well-wisher outside church near her Balmoral estate in Aberdeenshire.

It follows reports claiming the Queen was growing increasingly concerned about the 18 September vote.

Royal officials have insisted her comment did not breach the monarch's constitutional impartiality.

The Queen's comment came as she spoke to a member of the public outside the church at Crathie.

When the well-wisher joked that they were not going to mention the referendum, the Queen remarked: "Well, I hope people will think very carefully about the future."

'Serious reflection'

Following previous reports that Her Majesty was growing increasingly concerned about Scottish independence, Buckingham Palace issued a statement which read: "The sovereign's constitutional impartiality is an established principle of our democracy and one which the Queen has demonstrated throughout her reign.

"As such, the monarch is above politics and those in political office have a duty to ensure this remains the case.

"Any suggestion that the Queen would wish to influence the outcome of the current referendum campaign is categorically wrong. Her Majesty is simply of the view this is a matter for the people of Scotland."

The BBC's royal correspondent Peter Hunt said: "This wasn't a slip of the tongue by the head of state of the United Kingdom - rather a reflection of how seriously, she like many others, views the significance of Thursday's vote."

Dame_Ann_Average

Groundskeeper Willie declares support for Scottish independence, volunteers to lead the new country

http://www.independent.co.uk/n...country-9731930.html

 

The Simpsons’ Scotsman has backed the Yes campaign in Thursday’s referendum in a new video. He may be yellow and have only eight fingers, but Groundskeeper Willie from The Simpsons remains one of Scotland’s favourite sons – and he’s thrown his weight behind Scottish independence ahead of Thursday’s referendum.

 

In a Youtube video, Willie, Springfield’s resident Scotsman, ripped off his shirt to reveal printed on his chest the words: “Aye or Die.”

“That’s not a tattoo, it’s a birthmark,” he roared.

The proud Scot, dressed head to toe in his country’s traditional attire, began the video by framing the independence debate as one between “the freedom-loving heirs of the Highland tradition, and those who enjoy crawling like worms beneath British boots.”

He said: “I am hesitant to throw my support to either side – be it the right one, or the obviously wrong one.”

 

Willie, who would be unable to vote in the referendum as he lives in US, pleaded with Scotland to opt for independence, highlighting the country’s vast North Sea oil reserves and flourishing whisky industry as proof of its governmental competence.

“I’ve lived in America most of my life, so I’ve seen first-hand how not to run a country,” Willie added.

With that in mind, Willie offered himself as a candidate to lead a new, independent Scotland rather than the “safe choice” Alex Salmond.

He said: “For a leader who can stand in the proud tradition of William Wallace and Andy Murray, won’t you consider the return of Scotland’s prodigal son – Groundskeeper Willie?

“Willie won’t back down to world leaders, because I haven’t a clue who they are and I’m not willing to learn.” 

FM
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:

Cologne,  All the network operators signed a letter on Friday saying the prices would go UP.

Oh great. What about landlines?

about 11-12 yrs ago the whole of the British Isles cost the same for text and calls and landlines. .then every provider decided to class the Rep of Ireland as Foreign so it now costs a fortune to text or phone there which is a bleedin pain as the majority of the last of my family reside there 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

My mate's married to an English bloke, they live just outside Edinburgh in a quiet wee town.    Yesterday he was shouted and sworn at several times for wearing a small 'No thanks' badge on his lapel.   Later that evening someone came right up in his face, calling him an English bastard and were about to start on her until they heard her Scottish accent and they walked off.    

 

And they say it's not about racial hatred...  

As a Scot who has been married to an Englishman for 33 years, I can concur that it categorically is about racial hatred. Some try to dress it up as hatred of a "Westminster government", but hubby and I have experienced far too much of it to be fooled.

They don't fool us Yogi and Kaffs    

 

     

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Aquarius:

Fingers crossed that sanity prevails this week.

Thanks again guys, great meeting up with you again.

Hi Aquarius. Trouble is that BOTH sides will think that 'sanity has prevailed' ONLY if the result comes out their way. The YES side will say that we have NOT done the 'right thing' if the result is no and the NO side will claim the 'right thing' has not been done if the result is yes.


Well I really shouldn't give a damn cos I won't be here, but I still know that the divisive nature of the last months does Scotland no credit.

Aquarius
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

My mate's married to an English bloke, they live just outside Edinburgh in a quiet wee town.    Yesterday he was shouted and sworn at several times for wearing a small 'No thanks' badge on his lapel.   Later that evening someone came right up in his face, calling him an English bastard and were about to start on her until they heard her Scottish accent and they walked off.    

 

And they say it's not about racial hatred...  

As a Scot who has been married to an Englishman for 33 years, I can concur that it categorically is about racial hatred. Some try to dress it up as hatred of a "Westminster government", but hubby and I have experienced far too much of it to be fooled.

They don't fool us Yogi and Kaffs    

 

     


They don't fool me either Kaffs, Yogi and donks.  Even my family members refer to me as "the Anglo" cos I lived in Oxford.

Aquarius

Metcheck, a weather forecaster site, has this today

 

In an exclusive interview with Metcheck, the Scottish weather has said it will vote NO in the upcoming referendum. "We've been exporting snow, freezing temperatures and generally crap weather to the soft Southern lads and lassies for hundred years now, so why stop?" it added "Nothing gives us a bigger chuckle than seeing cars sliding around and English people trying to use umbrellas in 50mph winds!"

This comes just a few days before Scotland makes the momentous decision as to whether to keep its own weather in the future and stop the trade of weather between England and Scotland.

"The only thing the English weather has sent us are thunderstorms" Scottish weather said. "Even those are hit and miss, plus last year they didn't send us any! Not one!".

The English weather replied earlier today explaining that due to "budget cuts" they had been unable to send thunderstorms last year but promised that if Scottish weather votes YES then next year Scotland can expect "Bountiful thunderstorms with a rather nice cherry on top!". Responding to the potential of Scottish weather voting NO, English weather added that "If they stop sending us ice, snow and goodness knows what, then we shall moan about something else. Fog and err... low cloud with occasional showers can cause misery for millions, so we shall moan about that."

Metcheck tried to contact French weather to ask whether they had any plans based on the potential outcome but it was still at lunch.

El Loro

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