Fare do's Blizzie but if I sat and studied it I could drive a bulldover through the holes in their defence, they are all as evil as each other....

Karma, one day I will put it down on paper, no-one will ever believe it though. I grew up thinking cooking on candles was normal, hot water what was that? The Landlady of our local pub was wearing Mink thank's to my Dad!

I don't think there is any defence for what they did, but I do believe there are reasons people become like that and the signs should be picked up in early childhood.

I'll tell you my story one day Blizz and prove you can go through hell and come back a good person......I won't tell you here cos I'll get weirdo RIMMERS PM's on FB again....

xxx

Oh, I know that's possible, stonks, honestly!

I'm talking about noticing that a child is showing no empathy, or even signs of sadism, and actually investigating why and helping them, before a percentage of them end up like these people.

Karma, good for you and good luck!

Me too But I'm f**ked if anyone will take advantage of me ever,  hard as F**king nails me

I'm off to bed.

See you all tomorrow, probably!

Same here, I'm so ard I put barbed wire around me steering wheel to get a better grip....

Night Blizzie..

xx

I can't drive Stonksey VV

Karma, Wanna buy a Stungun? only used once.

Blinkin ell woman pull ya finger out and get started....

I'm so sorry Essie and Stonks, you are right, it never leaves you  I'm amazed it hasn't just made you 'ard!!


My father was the same, and the thing is my parents are still together, married for 50 years, but we are not allowed to talk about it, I know it sounds harsh but I blame my mother too, she should have got us out, she should have protected us more.  It was the constant fights that went on for years that have left its marks on me.  Sorry x

Going back to the original posts, I don't understand why it's ok for human beings that have committed the most dreadful crimes (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be serving life) to then dish out punishment   Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for this person but really have trouble understanding the logic.

after what they put that little boy through in his short painful life .... I'm glad .... serves him right.

They are the only one's who get the opportunity/actually would do it, many of us sit here saying i'd  have done it etc but when it actually came down to it most of us couldn't cos we are relativity  normal human beings. I still applaud who ever did it, people like that need to know they're gonnna get a rough ride in life as a result of torturing   defenceless  babies/kids

Just want to leave a big hug for Essie and Stonks

There is no logic Puss....in such cases emotion takes over  from logical thought. What that man did is illogical to most of us, ergo the response is illogical too.

My friend works in a prison - of course i can't say where he works or lives.
He was telling me he met an inmate we all know from a notorious case a few years ago,
"I spotted him immediately, he's a cocky little git"
Apparently this inmate sed he wud "come back and ask his questions wen a proper member of staff was around" and not ask a newbie.
Me mate told him to leave and return wen invited by staff.
My mate sed,
"He has aged so badly, looks ill" ... and had been given a job as cleaner to fill his day
Interesting . . . .

Oh and through my work (in a round-a-bout way) i met one of the children that killed James Bulger.
Of course i won't share any details other than he lives with his Mum  - who has stuck by him.
Could you do this to your child if they had committed such a crime?

The younger child in the James Bulger case wasn't the full quid and had been egged on by the elder boy.So if the younger of the two is still living with his mother I can understand that.

I know a family that found out their son was abusing their neices & nephews & tried to cover it up. Their daughter then found out & went to the police & the family protected this thing & disowned the daughter.

I think this kind of thing (hes not a person) deserved what he got & more.

I didn't get that impression wen i met him - but who knows
He looked terrified wen we met cos he didn't know who i was/why i was there
Seems he still lives in fear

No sympathy at all....whether he's the full shilling or not.....that's Karma for you...you can't avoid it

Sure bloody.

Totally agree kaytee

And I sure as hell am not shedding any tears for the piece of scum in your OP ... Rough Justice it may be and one thing is for sure ... What goes around comes around ...

Exactly....

God forgive me but he deserves all that and more.....What he inflicted on darlin Peter and his little sister is beyond all comprehension.... I'm not a violent person but imo let him suffer the same injuries he inflicted on Peter...Let him suffer without medication alone and without  as much as a kind word like Peter suffered....I resent the fact the tax payers money keeps that specimen fed warm and alive, more than he deserves imo.

You said what I feel and more Lee....

 My darlin hell is too good for the likes of him.....Even Satan would reject him so he'll go where he belongs.

I don't think I could knowingly stand in front of someone like that, especially knowing what they did to that little boy, and not try to give him the same treatment as he did little James.


I've been thinking about this since posting in this yesterday (I deleted my personal stuff)  I think suitable punishment for convicted (and proven) rapists and child abusers is for them to recieve the same treatment as their victims, except on a daily basis for many, many years. Put them under the same fear, the same feeling of helplessness. Let them gain an understanding of what it really feels like to be put in that position.

Mental torture is worse than physical torture, and that's what these bastards need. I take my hat off to psychologists who try to 'work' with these people, cos I know that's a job I could never do. I have no desire to know why a rapist does what he does, or why someone finds children sexually attractive, or why someone beats the crap out of a toddler or a baby. I just know that if I knew one of these people was living on my doorstep they wouldn't be there long. Yes there's the argument that once they have 'paid their debt to society' and are fully rehabilitated in the eyes of some professional (and I wont go into the amount of stories of re-offenders) , that they should have the right to live a normal life. I dont think they do. I think if they are to be released into any kind of civilisation, that they should live in some kind of bail hostel, where they are constantly monitored, every move they make is watched, not some curfew rubbish, but for them to live like a prisoner for the rest of their days, never knowing any peace. Cos their victims dont. What these bastards do stays with their victims forever. Why should the culprits be given the chance of normality?

Chop their willy's off ??

 Karma I agree 100% with everything you have said.....In the past I have had to sit in the same room with perpetrators of domestic violence and rape and tbh superficially you wouldn't give these specimens a second glance on the street ....Only I was aware of what they had done, which tbh had impacted my opinion off them, they came across as down to earth run off the mill blokes but they weren't....I always felt the need to come home and scrub myself being in their very presence left me feeling tainted and dirty having, had to share the same air as the  cretins made me feel foul....Buy an island and send them all there let them interact with each other as civilised  society has no place for them imo.

Castration with a rusty knife would be a start

Kaytee hun - i knew a guy who had been castrated and although his sexual appetite dived considerably - it DID NOT stop his ability to perform (this is a myth)
Willy choppage - no release or ... perhaps the death penalty??
I'm not sure

Oh that was just for starters Renton(lol)........I haven't let my imagination run any further than that yet...but it will.