against Freddie, what do you all think?
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Absolutely. Its alive and kicking in the BB house this year. 
Spot on ,Lisa being the one most guilty.
definatly
Reverse snobbery is horrible
Absolutely. And they'll continually get away with it as well.
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
yeah nail on head
you know i feel sorry for him he has no real friend in there
he tries
you know i feel sorry for him he has no real friend in there
he tries
, such a shame on the Fredster 
. They're trying to make him feel ashamed of his class and background 
. Isolating him is so rude.thats what i meant to say lol What does she do anyway, has she worked or just picks up the old giro that people like him have paid for?quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
quote:Originally posted by cup:
yeah nail on head
you know i feel sorry for him he has no real friend in there
he tries
That's what I hate to see, he tries so hard with all of them and he's really done nothing wrong but none of them seem to make the effort with him. Angel and perhaps Siavash and Rodders are the only ones that even bother.
And I hate the snide little remarks they make as well. Like earlier one when Sophie was asking Angel who she fancied, someone said Freddie and Sophie immediately saif "Of course not!". Eurgh.
quote:Originally posted by Skylark24:thats what i meant to say lol What does she do anyway, has she worked or just picks up the old giro that people like him have paid for?quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
Somebody on here posted the other day to say they knew her, that shes just an opinionated loud mouth who sits around in the Bullring in Birmingham and spouts off about stuff all day every day so im guessing the workforce hasn't had her company for a while.
She'll get mobbed in the Bullring now 
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Not just me then. They seemed to judge him on his upbringing the moment they met him. Thing is everyone would be up in arms if it was the other way round.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
Brilliant. You articulated what I couldn't.
i can imagine xquote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Skylark24:thats what i meant to say lol What does she do anyway, has she worked or just picks up the old giro that people like him have paid for?quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
Somebody on here posted the other day to say they knew her, that shes just an opinionated loud mouth who sits around in the Bullring in Birmingham and spouts off about stuff all day every day so im guessing the workforce hasn't had her company for a while.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Skylark24:thats what i meant to say lol What does she do anyway, has she worked or just picks up the old giro that people like him have paid for?quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
Somebody on here posted the other day to say they knew her, that shes just an opinionated loud mouth who sits around in the Bullring in Birmingham and spouts off about stuff all day every day so im guessing the workforce hasn't had her company for a while.
Yellow Bentley. Park Ward 
hehe OH the irony
quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Of course, it started on opening night with the crowds booing him as he went in, he said and did nothing in his VT to get booed, but his accent and big house was enough to get the chavs against him.
And sadly it's continued inside the house, Lisa thinks shes some kind f working class hero (even tho she doesn't work) and that by attacking the posh boy and claiming he's talking to her with attitude will go down well with the mainly working classes who watch the show.
I hope she doesn't get away with it.
Brilliant. You articulated what I couldn't.
I sure you could have...but thankyou.
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
Not just me then. They seemed to judge him on his upbringing the moment they met him. Thing is everyone would be up in arms if it was the other way round.
spot on.
I haven't seen enough of it to be sure it's all about inverted snobbery. Maybe there are other factors. Will look out for it though.
Exactlyquote:Originally posted by Bethni:quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
Not just me then. They seemed to judge him on his upbringing the moment they met him. Thing is everyone would be up in arms if it was the other way round.
so.... now let me see if I have this right,"WE" HAVE DECIDED, people who DONT like Fred, dont like him because they are judging him on his accent the way he looks his politics and his background? right so far?
on the other hand, lisa, is "working class" (except she aint worked ever) according to some folk here, she only gets "giros" from people like fred,...she is a "chav" or is trying to get the support of the "chavs",
SO "we" are all in agreement then? WE have JUDGED lisa on her looks "class" and bacground and made a few "guesses"
and decided that SHE has committed the heinous crime of judging someone on their looks background and "class" and a few "rumours"
well done everyone
oh and by the way I cant stand Lisa and I aint exactly a fan of fred either
on the other hand, lisa, is "working class" (except she aint worked ever) according to some folk here, she only gets "giros" from people like fred,...she is a "chav" or is trying to get the support of the "chavs",
SO "we" are all in agreement then? WE have JUDGED lisa on her looks "class" and bacground and made a few "guesses"
and decided that SHE has committed the heinous crime of judging someone on their looks background and "class" and a few "rumours"
well done everyone
oh and by the way I cant stand Lisa and I aint exactly a fan of fred either
anybody?
Absolutely!
She doesn`t want to learn about or mix with any other "class" She`s stuck in a rut. She abhores people who have eduction and or wealth,no matter how nice they may be. She`ll ignore their point of view and pick at them. Freddie is her target. His like are her enemy.
She`s a fool.
She doesn`t want to learn about or mix with any other "class" She`s stuck in a rut. She abhores people who have eduction and or wealth,no matter how nice they may be. She`ll ignore their point of view and pick at them. Freddie is her target. His like are her enemy.
She`s a fool.
I've just seen her rant again and OMG 
. Really can't stand her now, hope she's up this week how rude.
. Really can't stand her now, hope she's up this week how rude.quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
so.... now let me see if I have this right,"WE" HAVE DECIDED, people who DONT like Fred, dont like him because they are judging him on his accent the way he looks his politics and his background? right so far?
on the other hand, lisa, is "working class" (except she aint worked ever) according to some folk here, she only gets "giros" from people like fred,...she is a "chav" or is trying to get the support of the "chavs",
SO "we" are all in agreement then? WE have JUDGED lisa on her looks "class" and bacground and made a few "guesses"
and decided that SHE has committed the heinous crime of judging someone on their looks background and "class" and a few "rumours"
well done everyone
oh and by the way I cant stand Lisa and I aint exactly a fan of fred either
Well TBF no one said that, but it seems to me from the opening night booing of him for no reason that there is some kind of snobbery there against posh people.
The booes for some of the other HM's were more justified because they tried to get that reaction by being shocking in their VT's.
Freddie (in my opinion) has done nothing to get the other HM's against him, he's a little different but nothng to warrent that kind of attack from Lisa.
GOD YEAH me too dont ya just hate people who judge people
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
anybody?
Maybe he is just irritating?
I like Freddie....as a viewer... but I think I'd wanna tell him to shut up if I lived with him.
I don't think they are isolating because of class but purely because they have no idea how to take him. Rich/posh whatever... he comes out with some strange things.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
anybody?
Fairly sure I didn't judge her on her background just on her behaviour.
I judge Lisa on how she talks to people, the things she comes out with, her controlling nature as if shes the head of house and her all round stupidity.
quote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Absolutely. Its alive and kicking in the BB house this year.
Most definitely.
I have not judged Lisa on her looks,sexuality,class,or job( having one or not),only by what I have seen and heard of her on the show.
quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Not only rude darlo, it's cruel.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
so.... now let me see if I have this right,"WE" HAVE DECIDED, people who DONT like Fred, dont like him because they are judging him on his accent the way he looks his politics and his background? right so far?
on the other hand, lisa, is "working class" (except she aint worked ever) according to some folk here, she only gets "giros" from people like fred,...she is a "chav" or is trying to get the support of the "chavs",
SO "we" are all in agreement then? WE have JUDGED lisa on her looks "class" and bacground and made a few "guesses"
and decided that SHE has committed the heinous crime of judging someone on their looks background and "class" and a few "rumours"
well done everyone
oh and by the way I cant stand Lisa and I aint exactly a fan of fred either
Well TBF no one said that, but it seems to me from the opening night booing of him for no reason that there is some kind of snobbery there against posh people.
The booes for some of the other HM's were more justified because they tried to get that reaction by being shocking in their VT's.
Freddie (in my opinion) has done nothing to get the other HM's against him, he's a little different but nothng to warrent that kind of attack from Lisa.
I dont disslike fred because of his class or his politics or his accent or his education even though (if I am honest, and I am trying to be) it WAS my initial reaction, in fact I dont disslike him at ALL, I just dont think he is a very good hm, but I feel NO ill will towards him at all, he makes me laugh quite often and there are many more in there who I would like to see out before him,
but I just LOVE the way people assume that if you dont want to have his babies its because you are a "chav" or a "leftie" who are only against him for the things I mentioned earlier, double standards or what?
and re read the thread that is EXACTLY what people are saying,
I do not judge anyone on their background what they have or have not got ,I judge on the persons behaviour I like Freddy but not a massive fan as I find him boring ,Lisa is constantly picking on him and I dont like her ,dont care if they have millions or claiming on the dole it is all down to behaviour
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Not only rude darlo, it's cruel.
, they need to be taught a lesson in dignity and tact.