Yes I was surprised too. I know they used to have some banter back and forth but didn't realise it would lead to divorce

Camille was hit hard at finding out Kelsey had been having an affair and wanted a divorce. In the following series she was a lot quieter after going through a very messy divorce. Kelsey lost a lot of fans when they realised how badly he'd treated Camille

Vanderpump amuses me too!

I really don't like Camille in this season that's on at the moment, she seems a bit more humble in following seasons.  I honestly believe being Mrs Grammar made her think she was above everything and everyone.

Just finishing RHOOC, boy oh boy that Jeana is a real nasty bitch isn't she?

I'm only half watching the current lot cos have seen them before, more than once   so am back to using them as my afternoon white noise instead of taping them to watch with full concentration later and filling up my V+ box too quickly.. . .

the new as yet unshown over here Beverly hills with Adrienne and Paul split will be shown soon on Bio possibly after the Miami lot, unless ITV have bought the 'show it first' rights on that one too..  I was surprised they split tho the second series shows them in a different light and it wasn't as surprising. .

ps warn me of post spoilers pretty please, if there are any more to come. . am all caught up with the UK showings of all the HW's but know we are usually a season behind the US so I don't want to know stuff before I've watched them first it colours my perceptions of people and circumstances if I know what's coming ..

Sorry Olly, I'll try to remember.  

I follow the Real Housewives on Twitter so get snippets of news coming up on my feed.  

no worries cinds,. and get you Mrs superfan, following them on twitter

when i got my new phone contract with soem web time attached I decided ok lets do the phone twitter thing, I lasted about half an hour, it drove me mad with all the alerts interrupting me so I turned that and phone email off as well..  it's nto liek I don't have a bleeding great big PC right next to me anyway if I really wanted to twitter..   and I can never make head nor tail of it anyway ..all the messages are full of @thisandtthator #letsbethetrend I can't see what the actual twitter message is ..

I use my phone for twitter but have the alerts turned off because within 5 mins they had pee'd me off no end.

As for being a super fan I rarely click the links they post, but if you're interested this is the web address they take you too 

Www.sulia.com/channel/real-housewives

Thanks for that weblink Cinds, Have just had a quick look at some of the stories and have bookmarked site to catch up again later. I've given up with the Bravo website, it's rubbish.

I daren't look at the link in case I find out stuff I am waiting to find out in the next series of the various HW's..  like I am hoping Vickie has been conned by the bloke she set up with at the end of the last OC  and whom everyone hated, including her daughter, so they can all say 'told ya so'

gawd the HW's make me sooooooo evil

Vicki has it coming...     I don't like her at all 

She gets worse in following seasons (well I think she does)!

Vicki reminds me of Ramona, they both have that crazed look in their eyes, like they might stab you at any moment.

She is the weirdest freakiest HW of them all ..her poor kids, I really feel for them and her ex hubby too. .it's all about me me me with her..

oh dear am right grumpy today so am in rant mode about anything that even remotely annoys me

 Spot on.  Her reaction to her daughters marriage was way over the top.  

And to be honest, the way she treat Donn before she filed for divorce was disgusting (I'm surprised he didn't leave her first).  Although to be honest, in my opinion, for how soon she went public with Brookes after her & Donn split, and seeing how she treated Donn, I think she was having an affair with Brookes.

Yeah her daughter kinda suggested she was playing away from home prior to the divorce. . was slipped into a convo in the last series..

Tho I think Don also played away from home too..  he had to get his woooo hoooo from somewhere I suppose, Vikki was no sue always on her blackberry or laptop or taking a work [my people, WTF is that all about?] call 

Did notice that in the later series they stopped showing Vikkie on her laptop or Blackberry all the time. . she was never off them in the first few series. .

I'm now also hooked on Jerseylicious & Chicagoliscious. I do have to laugh at McCray panicking about 'coming out' to his mother. It's like 'honey unless your mothers living under a rock she already knows'

I miss Jerseylicsious.. bleedin sky trying to bleed virgin for price of channels they 'own'

I've not seen much of Chicagolicious but I remember that episode with McCray. Surely there's no way his mother doesn't know he's gay, anyone else would figure it out within a minute so why not her

I caught a couple of episodes of Jerseylicious yesterday that I'd not seen before, what a treat! so glad I did as I think it must have been the last 2 episodes of that season. That prompted me to see if there's any news of a new series as it's been so long since the last one and I was beginning to wonder if it had finished for good. Woohoo! the new series has just started in the US. I read a couple of spoilers and can't wait now. They're saying this could be the best series yet, some changes coming and one of the girls has definitely changed from how she's always been, lots of fiery stuff to come

Such a shame you can't see it Olly, I'd be furious. Have you seen the ad for a new series of hw's of OC, starts this month. I've not seen that before, I might give it a go as I'm really missing hw's. Hope it's good

I've not seen the add but presumed the new series would be coming soon after the one they are repeating now which was the last we had over here. .

Not sure if ITV2 will show the next Beverly Hills or whether Bio will keep is as they showed all the ones ITV are showing first. Bio has Miami HW's next after the Jersey one has finished.. great stuff

Sometimes it's hard to keep up with what channel is showing what which gets frustrating. I was annoyed the other week when a channel I'd been watching for a while disappeared overnight without any warning. I had to go through all the listings to see what the new number was, why can't they just put on the screen where they're moving to.

I like to watch Judge Judy in the afternoons but for a while it's all been repeats, and they're all several years old anyway....as hubby keeps reminding me and wonders why I bother lol. So at night I've started watching her 2012 and 2013 shows on youtube. I think she's had some botox since the early shows lol but she's still as shouty as ever

I've been watching Big Rich Texas this week, jeeeeeez they are vile Vile vile. So vile I had to say it 3 times. 

If any of you have watched any of it, read this article and also the comments underneath 

http://frontrow.dmagazine.com/...amela-martin-duarte/

I don't know that one Cinds. .what channel is it on? 

Bio started HW's of Miami Monday night. .repeated Tuesday mornings.. plus I think they are showing the next New Jersey HW's too.. am not caught up with them yet, have just watched the first reunion show where it seems Teresa is on a  deny deny mission and one of them didn't even turn up cos there was a row filming the next one.. think it was Jacqueline who always stood up for Teresa but seems Teresa's shat on her too.. she's one horrid lady along with her hubby.. ..

blimey.. I looked at the link and the comments..they sound dreadful 

Yeah I saw the Miami one the other day, and saw the Jersey one (which was the Christening fight - and I'd never seen that one).

Big Rich Texas is on Style channel.  Honestly Olly, I thought some of the house wives were bad but some of them are vile nasty pieces of work.

ah right that's the channel that sky and Virgin are fighting over re costs, amongst a few others like Sky Atlantic. .

I hate this competitive thing and the hate Sky and Virgin have for each other cos we virgin customers are the ones that suffer for it

Virgin isn't available where I live.

(No puns about lack of virgins in Newcastle)

ok..   I haven't read back in here... 

and I am waaaay behind on this housewifes malarky (hey...  you lot got me into this..   and, after ALOT of anger & upset from MrD about having to watch this crap..  he is secretly hooked too now )

I have just watched the last episode in the second season of Beverley HIlls...   and

     at dickhead Russell topping himself!!!!

I had to rewatch it on plus 1 to see if I had missed some white writing explaining it...   and when I realised I hadn't I had to google it!

MrD likes orange county best...    

cos he likes to fantasise about hitting Vicky in the face with a heavy frying pan 

I know it was rather shocking wasn't it. But you're right he was a dickhead.

If you've ever watched any of Big Rich Texas, you'd want to hit them all in the face with a frying pan, not one of them has a redeeming quality.  Horrible women.

I wouldn't be able to watch it then... 

I struggled with the New York one cos I hated them all....   mind you, I felt that way about all of them until I had watched a few episodes... 

Some of the husbands are likeable (BH's - Mauricio & Ken...   they're cool..  especially Ken )

Then... some of the husbands are just fame hungry whores...  or hangers on..  (OC's - Brookes & Slade...   omg..  get rid of them )

Awww I love Ken, he's like the dithery old Uncle that everyone loves.  Mauricio comes across as really laid back.  

I really didn't like Russell, even though I knew abut him killing himself, I still couldn't find any compassion for him, he was a very unlikeable man. (Am I going to hell for that?)

NO!!!!

He was horrible..   and the fact that he then killed himself rather than come across badly on the show (makes you wonder just how much they edited out his bad bits doesn't it) without a thought for what that would do to Kennedy...   well...    horrible horrible dangerous man!  

I've always said that behind every insane woman is an arsehole of a man! 

The new series of Jerseylicious starts on March 6th, I'm looking forward to that

Russel was always the odd one out in the group. He rarely went to the social occasions with Taylor and if he did he didn't join in with the convo's. The hw's didn't know whether to believe he was physically abusing Taylor or not because she would often deny it but they (and viewers) also saw her getting thinner than usual and on the edge of a breakdown. After he died she talked about the abuse. He tried to not leave marks that others could see so would often just push her head against the wall. One night he went much further and we were shown photos of where he hit her so hard in the face that the doctor who treated her in hospital said it was a miracle she wasn't blinded...very graphic photos of that particular injury that was hard to look at. Despite everything she loved him...as can happen with abused women with no self esteem. After his death it was discovered he had severe financial issues which Taylor hadn't known about. I think Taylor's been dropped from the next series.

I watched a couple of series of Big Rich Texas but didn't watch every episode. I never liked any of them either, and of the daughters Whitney was one spoilt, disrespectful and troublemaking brat, her tatooed and body pierced boyfriend came across as the most down to earth and genuine person on the show for me in the end.

Only one hw interested me - I don't mean I liked her - and that's Leslie. As soon as she moved to Texas and came into the series she was talking about all the property she owned giving the impression she had a lot of money. The others didn't believe her and started investigating her, I missed the episode where they found out if she was lying or not. That's the thing with Leslie, with a lot of her storylines it was always hard to work out if she was lying or not. On the reunion show Leslie refused to be in the same room as the others, every time she spoke the gaggle of witches shouted and laughed at her. She was questioned about the incident of the lie detector and said she'd taken 2 tests that proved she was telling the truth. When the host asked one of the other women involved in that story if she'd be prepared to take the test in the studio she refused...so who's lying. A strange bunch of people