I've watched the first two. .

I can;t tell Ronnie and Catherine is it? apart. . they are the spitting imagine of each other ..maybe a slight tifferent in hair dye? but I'd bet a goodly sum that the latter just turned 45 at least not 30..

Jody is trying to be the Canadian Jil Zarin... mouthy jewish mamma but coming over  as mouthy bitch instead just like Jil but more hippyish

I don't know who Katherine Kelly is but poor thing if she's like Jody

I'm finally recognising who is who among the lookalikes, especially between Ronnie and Christina. Every time I see Mary I can't believe she's in her late 40's, for a couple of episodes I thought she was in her twenties she looks so young, whatever she's doing it's working

Still don't understand what the underlying conflict is between Mary and Jodi. At times there are also misunderstandings/conflict between Mary and Ronnie, one minute they're friends, next minute not   I agree that Jodi is similar in personality to Jill Zarin, she and her daughter are drama queens. The nicest one so far for me is Keiko, and facially she reminds me of Tara Palmer Tomkinson

I am just about recognising the difference between Ronnie and Christine. .tho am a few episodes behind so not quite there yet..

Problem with Jody is she's a bitch and a bully.. the rest suck up to her . .probably scared shitless of the ol cow... Mary doesn't so she gets the flack...

tbh they all look in their 40's and 50's to me.. just bottoxed and filled to within an inch of their lives.. 

Mary and Ronnie fight when Ronnie is on a binge drinking session.  ie every day... and fancy calling a wine Rehab. .how classy is that?  and she didn't realise you put the details of the wine's flavours on the back of the bottle.. probably never had time to look before.. how can someone who lives somewhere so beautiful and clearly very expensive be so classless? 

Vancouver is the prettiest of all the places HW's are filmed.. by a mile..

Olly I agree what you say about Vancouver, it's a beautiful city I've seen a few shots of places I saw while there and it's brought back lots of good memories

I'm continuing to realise Mary is hoping Ronnie will have her back when the confrontations arise between Mary and Jody but it seems when Ronnie is alcohol fuelled she has no allegiance to her so called friend Mary. I enjoyed Rekio's bollywood birthday party for her hubby as I love ethnic dance and music. Jody's opinion of that night as usual was totally negative,

it really is a beautiful place isn't it?  The air looks so clear as well as the gorgeous scenery.. I never understood how people wanted to go to LA or Beverly Hills. .it always looks dingy and dirty to me..  San Fransisco looks a lot better..

I am 2 episodes behind so not seen Keiko's aprty. .but agree that Ronnie is a fair weather friend. .or a fair booze friend..

Was checking to see how many episodes on series one.. there's 15. .also and found out it stops after 10 episodes in series 2 and no reunion either ..

it's not a Bravo show I don't think.. it's a Canadian company tho it may be the Canadian arm of Bravo.. not sure.. hopefully the OC and New York will be back soon. .just hope we don't have to go through all previous seasons before we get the newest ones.. there's 7 of the OC, this will be the 8th, and I think there's 5 of NY and this would be the 6th  

Very observant Olly of you to notice how much cleaner the air is in Vancouver than LA, it really is. I've also visited LA and the smog that hangs over it affects many people, on their local tv and radio are constant updates about the levels so locals know when the levels are high they know to close all windows and doors which in their Summer climate is difficult to live with. Also visited while in the US San Francisco, loved some of the areas like their shopping centres and Fisherman's Wharf with great restaurants and beautiful views, riding the cable cars, walking half way across San Fran Bridge and throwing a coin into the water below as is a good luck wish in the area but one day accidentally through naievity strayed into the downtown area where it's not safe to be. Was glad to get out of there but every city in the world probably has good and bad areas.

Not sure how many eps you've seen now but for me Jody and Mia atm are the worst of the bunch. Ronnie I'm still unsure about, like you say a fairweather or boozy friend. I'm still liking Reiko the best so far. It's a shame if they don't take up the show again as I'm enjoying it.

the pictures are so clear you can see it is clean fresh air. . reminds me of the alps. .but the scenery is fabulous too with the mountains and the lake is it?

LA isn't even pretty even if it wasn't smoggy. . never understood why anyone would want to go there . .tho the states has never appealed to me as a place to visit anyway.. maybe some of the ski resorts in the past or lush mountainous areas but South America appeals more to me.. or did when I could do the going out thing

Am 3 episodes behind now ..there are 10 in the second series I think, with a  cast change too tho I've not looked to see who went, you know me and spoilers,   then that's it. .

but hopefully we'll get some of the better HW series new episodes after that. . fingers crossed we don't get all the repeats of previous seasons first tho 

Yes parts of it are like the Alps with the mountains, skiing and cable cars. I'm terrified of heights but was persuaded to go in a cable car, it was really scary with the ravines below but when we got to the top there was a beautiful forest and beyond that a concert was taking place with hundreds of people sitting on the grass listening to the music, it was well worth overcoming my fear lol.

Vancouver's almost entirely surrounded by the Pacific Ocean, one part, English Bay has been shown a few times. They've also shown parts of Stanley Park which is around 1.000 acres, there are so many different areas and different activities in the Park it would take more than a day to see everything. The Park's so beautiful I was wishing I could have a house built in it right near the forest lol.

Well this series was short, it ended today  I'm disappointed about having new hw's in the next series, I was finally understanding the different personalities of the women and who I preferred to others, it was a good episode today.

It seems ages since being able to see any of the other hw shows, I don't want any more repeats either...just get to the new shows FGS .

maybe we should petition ITV to get their finger out and give us new stuff now. . I hate this withdrawal period waiting for the old ones to appear. .I wanna see if Vikki is still with that southern guy and if what's her face is gonna marry the guy who's dated all the OC HW's near enough ..forgotten their names. .and I don't want to google for spoilers I wanna see for myself..

Jody and her awful daughter, horrid pair of snarling bitches.

I am still a few episodes behind but I agree with you 100% Cinds. .must admit I was watching an episode last night and I was thinking has she been told to act like that cos surely no one is as nasty as she is? 

Educated in a finishing school?  Borstal more like

I think perhaps she hams it up a bit when they do the individual talking bits, but just watch her when they go to see Mary sing.  Just horrible, horrible women.

oh gawd I can imagine... 

I shall relish a really good tutting moment tho. .tis why I watch these things half the time, so I can purse my lips and tut a lot. . you can't beat a good superior feeling tut tut

 Definitely.  You will love the episode from yesterday, I was tutting, eye rolling and even the odd jaw drop.

oooh  can't wait

Today is second day of new hw's series, so I've seen who's left and who stayed. Yesterday I liked all the new hw's, after today I'm not so sure who I'll end up liking and who not, will be interesting to follow through though

I've just watched part 2 of the reunion. .Jody is completely deluded and Ronnie is on another planet...  talk about over acting the daughter choking story .. I actually felt myself not believing her.. I know that is bad but it didn't ring true at all..   anyway at a guess I'd say those two lunatics are still there [don't tell me] and Mary will be gone and Reiko too probably..

I must be also getting very cynical because I felt the same way about that.  And that flippin Jody, I swear to god I don't think I would ever get tired of punching her, what a vile horrible little woman. When she sat arguing that the handbags she sold weren't second hand and then went on to say they were vintage.  Hahahahaha that's just a nice way of saying second hand. 

oh I am glad it's not just me. .I felt bad about doubting Ronnies story.. or that it was anywhere near as dramatic as she seemed to make it out. .partly cos I was thinking hang on this kid was deprived of air at birth now she's been deprived for a further 22 minutes due to a stuck piece of steak . .surely there'd be nothing left of her brain. .

plus if they can't unblock the windwipe they can do a tracheotomy to get a tube into the lungs. .they wouldn't keep trying in the hospital to remove the blockage without first getting her some airflow. . also we never heard if the housekeeper survived the heart attack either.. and Ronnie can't be a real mum, all humans have an inbuilt fight reflex when something that is causing danger is happening and in particular to their young so she'd hardly faint if she was trying to give her daughter the heimelic sp? would she? she may faint after it was all over form the stress but not during. . she was probably too pissed and passed out from booze. .if it ever actually happened in the first place.. 

and yeah Jody and her' vintage'... 30 yrs old but brand new?  she wouldn't have it that it was second hand if it is vintage.. slap her for me too 

I do think it happened, but I think it was exaggerated. Yes, I agree about the fight instinct.  You just do and then fall to pieces when it's all over. 

yup

I've still got two more of the Vancouver shows to go then ITV start showing the last season of the OC HW's this week. . hopefully leading into the newest one?

fingers crossed as I am without any new HW programmes after the 2 I've got left to watch..

woooooooooohooooooooooooo *does a little dance*   finally, Season 3 of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills starts on Lifetime [was previously Bio] tomorrow .. Yay can't wait!!!!

Tho I shall save each one to watch when I can enjoy the guilty pleasure the best. . Usually a Sunday afternoon when there is crap on the tellybox

Oh and the latest OC one should be any time soon when ITV2 finish reshowing the last  season . .double whoop

Hi Olly
When this series of OC started I didn't recognise any of the women, except that Vicky looked familiar. As the series went on occasionally there were a few scenes that I remembered seeing before. I think I must have quickly dipped in and out of an earlier OC. I'm glad there's another OC after this one.

At the weekend I was flipping channels and came across back to back episodes of OC, they were really early ones as Vicky's daughter was 18 and of course Vicky looked younger. Vicky and Slade were the only 2 that are in this series. I was surprised to see Slade, he was with another woman, dark haired...Jo? anyway I didn't watch too much seeing as I only knew 2 of them.

Thanks for the info about Beverley Hills ...I was looking at the new Lifetime website at the weekend to see if they're still carrying another show I watch but didn't see BH mentioned, I'll have to check what time...I hope there's some HW's from the previous series which seems a long time ago now lol.

heya YR

I saw the very first OC today on E!. .just happened to be channel hopping, and Yes Vicky is an original, tamra may be too and as is Slade, he's been with 3 HW's now tho one was off season and only for a short time. .they call him the 6th HW as he has done the rounds a lot now..

I've been dying to find out if Vivky is still with that Southern guy and made sure I have not looked at any spoilers.. she was so bluddy smug about him [he's a right creep too] but he was actually jailed for child support non payment yet she slags Slade off non stop for being behind with his..  so I do hope ITV2 show the next season after this one finishes. .  they are probably filming the following one now if it has been renewed, we are so far behind. .and even further behind with NY & NJ ones too..

Beverly hills starts tomorrow at 9pm but is being repeated at all sorts of times during the weekend, one I saw was 2pm on Thursday or Friday I think which may be easier to catch .. I have Tivo so it records New series as they arrive except it missed the fact BH was starting probably because the channel was renamed so it was pure chance I spotted it in my paper TV guide today. .

I only knew Slade had child support issues going back a long time while watching this OC, didn't know till the weekend he'd been in OC before with another hw/s. I've not been sure about him just having seen him with Gretchen, I'm sure he loves her but sometimes feel he's using her and pushing her into situations for his own profile. I still don't know what he does to make any income apart from helping Gretchen with her career.

I was recently looking for some info about one of the OC hw's and happened to come across something about Vicky and her bf...forgotten his name now. I won't mention what it said  I really wish we weren't so behind with all the different hw's series, it's frustrating as their lives seem to change so much between one series and the next, as well as regulars leaving or being dropped and having to get used to new hw's.

Thanks for the time of BH hw's  and it's helpful to know they'll repeat an episode on other nights if I miss one...trying to plan my tv time gets confusing at times lol.

YAY *cartwheels towards the sky remote control*

blimey you should put knickers on before you start doing cartwheels Cinds

*legs it*

Rose Slade was in property before and had loads of money [invested in property tho so cash poor]  but he lost it all in the crash.. he also did PR and the first ever season he was using it to promote his then GF, and he still does the same now. . he manages Gretchen, or tried to manage her but  then she went off on her own once she got established after her Fiancé died. that was the old rich guy she was originally engaged to in case you didn't see those seasons.. that is why his child support is a problem because it was based on Slade's original income which he no longer has. . His kids were also in the first season too...

And yup don't let anything out about Vicky and the BF..  tho I am desperate to know if he did turn out to be a con man so I can go yeah in your face you dreadful woman .. will wait til it airs tho.. and savour every minute if that is the case. .I am such a bitch .. 

ooooh  I do like the Housewives and the Tut factor you can get watching them

So Gretchen's left Slade? if so there must be another Season that will be a repeat for you ? Don't know if you're watching this one if you've seen it before but I'm at the part of the series where Gretchen and he go to a therapist as she doesn't want to marry him until he sorts out his financial problems.

Today I saw the hw's trip To Costa Rica. Couldn't make out what was going on with Vicky..neither could the others by the looks on their faces...she was completely whacky, perhaps she's losing the plot after her daughter's illness and then her getting married in Vegas which Vicky's not happy about at all, and she's got her divorce coming up. All the hw's in whatever series have so much drama and so many bitchfests in their lives   which is what keeps us watching
 

Sorry it was early, and I was still in my nightie 

@ Cinds in her nightie 

Rose that's the thing about these HW's they've gotta be bonkers to go on  reality shows in the first place I reckon.. think I'll record the reunion shows of that OC to remind myself where we are when the next season comes out.. I recall the reunion shows were a cracker..

Oh sounds like the reunion show will be interesting lol, atm I can't imagine who will still be friends with who with all the arguments going on between "friends". In the different hw shows I sometimes think there's one hw who's different than the others beause they don't like confrontation and in general have better social skills than the rest. In this OC that's how Heather strikes me. From what I've seen so far she's more mature in attitude, stable, no hysterical outbursts...just classier.

I enjoyed the return of BH last night  I'm more familiar with them and their history. There's a new hw and the return of one that I read some time go wasn't going to be asked back but I'm glad she is. I wish Camille was still there though. Won't say any more as you might be recording it for the future

Yup Heather seems the sanest of the OC lot for sure. .plus she actually does appear to have some money which gets up the noses of the rest of them. .specially the one who had the nose job, I've forgotten her name for now. . when she joined the show all she talked about was her huge house [they've moved] and her husbands money. .[they appear to not have any now]. .

Vicky always seems to portray that she has money too.. but I think hers in all in real estate as well so she's probably broke until the prices go back up again as they usually are mortgaged to the hilt 

I have taped BH to watch at a  later. .I usually like to have a few backed up cos I hate when I get into housewives mode and only have one to watch then a week to wait for the next one ..at least ITV shows them everyday tho atm it's on repeats, for me anyway..  plus I have a lot of other  stuff I've recorded that I need to reduce a bit too..  then of course TOWIE and Made in Chelsea are on too... and I'm a  celeb starts soon as well.. ooooooh the tutting moments are piling up after a summer of not many

Yes Heather and Vicky seem to have more money than the others...Heather's house is amazing, plastic surgeons sure make a lot of money!  It's Alexis who the hw's have a problem believing she has as much money she claims she has They can't understand why she wears fake jewels instead of the real gems she says she has. On their trip to Costa Rica they all laid into her telling her she's materialistic, pretentious and a liar, even her friend Gretchen took their side which really upset her and she ran off crying, not surprising really after the personal onslaught.

Today I enjoyed seeing the trip Eddie and Tamra took to Bora Bora, absolutely breathtaking, a real Paradise Island. She was wondering if he was going to propose and as the trip went on I like her got to the point of thinking oh no he's not going to  then suddenly he did when least expecting it, it was all very romantic.  They seem good together so I hope the relationship's still ongoing...never know from one season till the next with all the different hw's lives and their divorces and separations lol.

With you saying about only having one episode to watch etc reminded me that because I've become so used to seeing the afternoon hw's every day that the night after the first new BH had aired I switched over to the Lifetime channel expecting to watch the next episode, totally forgetting it's on every week not every day

haha yes it does get a bit addictive hence me saving some up to watch later . .I'm in Masterchef mode atm so have plenty of those to watch for now  [the Australian one goes on for months and is much better than ours now] and there is the BBC professional one on too but will need some HW's to watch soon.. it's been a while now.. 

As for Alexis she is getting no more than she deserves, her first season she came in all guns blazing for Vicky, who's been in it since the yr dot [it's the longest running of all the HW shows] she was a right bitch and turned everyone against Vicky. . as well as boasting of her net worth at every possible turn..  tho Vicky  did need taking down a peg or two by then as she was dreadful from the very beginning but there are ways of doing it then there is the HW way . .

Tamra was a right bitch as well but the new guy seems to have tamed her a bit too.. but you never know, once a bitch always a bitch ? 

I was just checking my TV guide for next week to record the finale of the current OC season to refresh my memory ready for the new one.. and was and expecting to find the next one straight after. . Wrong . .it's the New Jersey lot starting Friday and tis the first series of that one too .. I've seen that a few times already.. 

I want the OC season that we haven't seen yet. .* stamps foot * I do hope ITV will show it. .am gutted. .they are probably filming the next one now and we are already one behind. . 

Mind you if you've never seen the NJ one that is good for a laugh .. them Italian women are quick to think with their fists firsts as are the Italian men 

I never watch cookery programmes but I notice there's a lot of them so no wonder they keep you busy

Alexis wealth, or lack of, confuses me. When the series started the titles showed her talking about all the expensive cars she has and I saw the cars, or shots of them at least, so when the hw's say she hasn't got money I'm not sure who/what to believe, maybe they mean by their standards she's not as rich as them? confusing lol.

Although I like the relationship between Eddie and Tamra I can see what you mean about her being bitchy having seen what she says at times either to their face or behind their back, and sometimes she looks a bit sneery in some convo's.

Do you remember someone called Sarah? she's not a regular but I've seen her about 3 times in different episodes, a friend of Alexis apparently. Every time she's in it her attitude is awful, loves to start an argument and is incredibly rude...I'm wondering if the Producers will add her to the new show because she's so confrontational, horrible woman!!

Today she turned up at Heather's changing of name party - Heather didn't invite her, Alexis did. Heather had had a cake made and before the cutting of the cake and speech Sarah pulled off a piece and ate it I couldn't believe anyone could be soooo bad mannered, but the more I see of her the worse she's behaved. Episode ended with a huge row with the other hw's also in disbelief at what she did. Now I have to wait till Monday to see what happened next, surely she got thrown out!!!

Oh fgs what kind of planning is that!!!! stamps feet with you  I too was hoping this would be followed with the next OC. First time I've seen a full OC series and I'm still learning about them, and now it could be around 2 years before they show the next one!!! ...well that's how long it feels before we're allowed to catch up with the latest hw show, stupid scheduling

I'm pretty sure I've seen NJ before but atm I can't remember any of their names   I'll watch the first episode to see if I remember it, if I do I won't watch as I'm not interested in repeats, I'll just have to find something else to do which is more time productive

Rose, Alexis and most of the others tend to have leased cars which is an American thing more than here.. or they are all on finance and they disappear when they miss the monthly payments ... and most of their houses, if not rented are over mortgaged, and Alexis's previous one was foreclosed or short sold ie still money owing or taken back by the banks, I think she is renting the one you see her in this season..  her hubby's business is all talk and not a lot of money anymore.  if ever there was any and whatever it is he's supposed to do ..

Sarah is a newbie to the OC but is a lush so I doubt she'll make the next season as a regular.. she may be around if Alexis still is. .she's a bit like Brandi in the Beverly hills one. .don't know if she's a regular now but she was an extra with lines too to start off with

Cinds is really is so annoying with ITV isn't it? I actually emailed their viewers queries to ask if or when they'll be showing the later seasons and not repeats also when they'll be showing the newest  New York one too.. will let you know if I hear back, tho I doubt it..

Channel 4 stared showing the New Jersey HW's first. .they showed seasons 1&2 ages ago then Bio showed the 3rd one after a few yrs break.. Caroline is the main honcho in the Jersey ones. . tho Theresa seems to also be up herself and thinks she runs the show now. .she's her sister in law.. I think you have seen them as I am sure you mentioned about Caroline's weight loss in season 3.. the first two has the mad crazy ex con woman in it as well as the fighty Italians.. well the fighty Theresa I should say..

After I posted about Alexis and her cars I wondered if they were leased, although that can't be cheap as they're top of the range cars. Also I've often wondered why some hw's of whichever city rent homes instead of owning them if they're supposed to be so rich. I can see the resemblance in personality now between Brandy and Sarah's personality. Neither do much to make themselves liked lol.

I've realised now I've never seen a full series of the NJ hw's. I remember catching a few episodes every now and again at night while channel hopping but never felt inclined to make a note of what night they were shown so I could watch them every week. Don't ever remember seeing any daily shows of  NJ in the afternoons but in general I've never watched a lot of ITV2. Since this thread started I've watched it just because hw shows have been mentioned. When OC ends and if I need some afternoon tv viewing I'll give NJ a go

I'm just glad that at long last we've got a new series of BH to watch  I also hope there's an NY one lined up for the not too distant future