Of course in my day you waited until you had his ring on your finger.

Define 'half-dressed'.

THAT LIVENED THINGS UP A BIT:d

are you completely stupid

course those blokes going out in tight fitting t shirts to show off their muscles and tight jeans to show off their package must be beggin for it as well....i mean if they were to become a victim of a gay rape.....well they shouldn't of dressed so provocatively should they...........wandering around steaming drunk and wearing tight clothes.....

Enticing - alluring, appealing, attracting, bewitching, captivating, charming, desirable, enchanting, engaging, fascinating, fetching, inviting, luring, siren, tempting, winning, winsome.

So, a Burka it is, then?

I quite fancy those warm jammies

they got the ring ands then they were raped Saz becuase they didnt really know what sex was

Spongey you may well be very accurate on that but Gay on Gay is pretty provocotive anyway
You should hear the stories one of my patients tells me  This person is a trannie and lives in that world  It really is shocking

**calls wholesaler and orders 10,000 miles of black Burka fabric**
Goes into production

Keep Brits girls safe LOL

I've got to ask, were you talking to yourself here?

ahhhhh but choppers.....what if a straight man was wearing the tight clothes and was raped by a gay man??..would the 'shouldn't of dressed like that and been drunk' thing still apply?

Would a pink Burka be too enticing?

too provocative Wear a burka instead

you're obviously beggin for it yer hussy!!!.....

Help me I dont know how to quote on here

Blaze T Dragon would say I don't know how to quote any where
Anyway Pink Burkas are for real Trollops so no hope for them and men who flash their bits are equally at risk and strangely enough we were talking about that this morning in the practice

I would say that if you put yourself in a position where rape or unwanted sex could happen then you are a fool

Just being alive is putting yourself in that position. No-one is immune from rape.

It is like standing in the middle of a Motorway and saying It is my road as well and I can stand here if I want to but shouldnt be surprised if they get hit by a fast car

Indeed. So, using your analogy, you're saying that motorists have no responsibility to even try to control their car enough to avoid hitting someone standing in the road?
What if the victim is standing at a bus stop, or in a doorway, and the motorist deliberately drives off the road to hit them, is it still the victim's fault?

Dressing in an enticing way and going back to someones apartment is giving the green light and the word No is useless

Ah, that's the one rape myth that I didn't write about; that men are so completely at the mercy of their animal passions that simply dressing provocatively is enough to make them lose control. In which case, there's really nothing any of us can do; any little insignificant thing could be enough to turn them into ravening beasts.

Please, read my post above. I know it's long, but it does point out that rape is not about sex; it's about power and control.
It's a usually premeditated attack on someone perceived as weaker, in a manner calculated to cause them the most pain and humiliation.

I realise you're just trying to provoke a reaction, but, really, defending rapists by blaming the victim is a nasty thing to do.

Sarum, totally not the time or place, but I just wanted to say its good to see you again You've been away far too long, and I really miss your posts

Thank you, Saz I have been away for a while; family matters came first

And I'm sorry if I seem to be getting a little intense...Maybe it's my unusual circumstances - after all, I didn't grow up with the fear of rape, it came to me much later in life (and it was a bit of a shock) - but I feel very strongly about this.

Echoing what Saz said re Sarum's much welcomed return xx

Me too.

hope everything is ok with you and yours Sarum

Sarum this is a response to you post because I don't know how to quote
I too have been assaulted and I was followed home in a dark country lane by someone I didn't know but who had clearly been watching me  I didn't fight back in case I got hurt but was critisized in Court by a female judge for not fighting  Seemed a foolish thing to do in my opinion at the timeI am not supporting men who rape I am merely saying that women should take better care of their health and safety
it is pure common sense

We're coping, Saz...I've been trying to support my baby sister, who's just had a mastectomy, and is facing more radiotherapy and more surgery this year, but we're being positive about it all.

Puddy, I'm sorry; I didn't realise.
I got a little fired up because I thought you were trivialising the whole thing.

You're right, everyone should take some responsibility for their own safety; I always advocate SDSA training for all women, and anyone else who is vulnerable. But that doesn't mean that someone who doesn't isn't just as much a victim.

For what it's worth, I think the judge you dealt with is an ass.
In those circumstances, fighting back isn't always an option; we all do what's necessary  to survive.

It happened to me 40 years ago and I have never forgotten it or the lesson I learnedThe legal system wants evidence so if it is just the two of you it is your word against his and that gnereally means the case is dismissed
No may mean No but that doesn't mean anyone is going to take any notice  Women have to take care of themselves

Sarum xxx

In some circumstances, fighting back could cost you your life or those of your family.

Oh bummer!

So true Karma

from what i have observed  women almost invariably blame another woman when a man has behaved badly be that rape or less serious goings on...

Some women, I hope, jackson.

Don't agree about the rape side of that theory JB, but in other situations, then yes, it does happen. But also heavily depends on the circumstances too.