Lol Baz he is not losing his temper like Hestletine just getting the better of him

What's age got to do with anything, may I ask???

Looks like hes about to snuff it live on tele thats why

Baz I think people cant accept it cause maybe SOME voted for the policies.......which have now been dumped so the voter feels duped

Compromise is good.
Having it (mostly) all ones own way for decades is hard to take when an alternative comes along.
Melanie Phillips doing her usual extreme statements and wild words.

But what is the alternative Lockes......... everybody sticks to their so called *principles* and says  we are not going to budge, and let the country go down the drain?

I agree Brisket.... on both points

As Falconer has just said the cons gave away nothin the Libs gave away everything......for a bit of power

Right im off to watch it in bed now, falling asleep on pc.

The future looks interesting, only a month or two away before libs/cons come to blows.

Night Night.

Coalition and compromise can and do work and can be made to work.
The examples we are given by those who don't like it, are from places where it has not worked. They choose to overlook that it can and does work.They are just upset and may get over it in time.

I don't see it that way..... it seems to me they have given up quite  bit.......... As for Lord Falconer...... he would say that, wouldn't he

Nite nite Mr M & P... sleep well

Baz the coalition agreement is on the BBC webiste, The torys gave away nothin

I will check it out more closely Lockes....  but that was not my understanding. However, if that is correct, well I guess you could say that given the number of votes/seats etc. proportionally........

I like Simon Hughes....

Hasan and Phillips simply can't accept it.
Hasan writes lots of blogs and is perhaps not used to being challenged.
They've been shaken.
But I am amazed that they are so pessimistically dogmatic about the future.
It would be nice if they said they would like a coalition to work - but no. It appears they don't want it to. It doesn't suit them for it to work.

Me too......

OMG these cuts sound like they are going to be bad

can I just add - I feel labour should have been part of a coalition government seeing how they have about 200 more seats than the Lib dems

They always were Lockes.......the truth is we are in one almighty mess......

not watching but when you have 4 million in the bank it doesn't really matter what monetary cuts a re made - it just hits folks who can't afford it -

I know Baz but I bet Labour would have made sure the poorer in society were hit the least. The Torys I just dont trust

I would not actually have been against that Ros....  but they wouldn't even do a deal when they had the chance.....

That is my point and you can bet The Torys hit the poorest first......like IF the VAT rises, it hits the poorest harder

but it has built up over years - not just 13 years - - but it is ALWAYS the ones who can least afford it who will suffer  - labour had already started to make cuts - I know that from my job and they were bad - it will be made harder now just for the sake of it - it really riles me

Well I can't agree with that Lockes.....

I feel a bit sorry for Simon Hughes

I totally agree with what Simon Hughes is saying now........

Baz - they are ideologically poles apart - they couldn't do the deal - I do agree with you there - I really hope this works for all of us - I really do - was discussing this with OH - perhaps just perhaps the softness of the Lib dems with the hardness of the Tory's might work - i really hope it does

why do millionaires and people who earn over 50k get Family Allowance. How much would this save the government if it was scrapped

put it on now - gender is an issue with this coalition

So do I Ros.... and I think things are so dire that it is about time we all started praying that it does work, cos otherwise we are stuffed....

they don't - i think this is a media hype - i work with peeps who can't get it and earn next to nothing  - the teaching assistants who are really worried about their jobs - I do agree the tax credits do need redefining - it should never be easier to live on benefits than work IMO

I agree Lockes.... but then when David Cameron  said he wanted to scarp Working Tax Credits for people earning over 50K Labour pilliored the idea.....

Ros.... everyone  with children get Family Allowance..... no matter what their income....

I agree baz

Labour dont hit the poorest families or pensioners like the Tories do they never have done ..

Peeps earning this would NEVER get it where I live

I think we are seeing and hearing many examples of people who cannot get their head round a different system.
They cannot comprehend the situation. I think many are scared to let go of the only political way they know, and they cannot do that necessary mind-shift and start thinking on a different plane.
Even their predictions are based on the past and not the possibilities of the future.
Reactionary indeed.