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Two people were today believed to have been  shot by armed police after hacking a man to death with a machete in front of  dozens of eyewitnesses.

Police were tonight treating the incident as  a terror attack and Home Secretary Theresa May had called a  meeting of the government's emergency cabinet committee Cobra.

The soldier was attacked this knives and meat  cleavers while he was wearing a Help for Heroes t-shirt in Woolwich, south-east  London.

It is thought that the two men waited around  for 20 minutes until police arrived and then tried to attack them - but were  swiftly shot by armed officers.

Eyewitnesses said the 'crazed' men launched a  ferocious attack and were 'hacking at  him, chopping him, cutting him.'

 

Scene: One man died at the scene here in John Wilson Street, south London this afternoon while two were seriously injured

Scene: One man died at the scene here in John Wilson  Street, south London this afternoon while two were seriously injured

 
 
Two men were rushed to hospital this afternoon while another man died after apparently being hacked to death in Woolwich

Two men were rushed to hospital this afternoon while  another man died after apparently being hacked to death in Woolwich

Prime Minister David Cameron wrote on Twitter  that 'the killing in Woolwich is truly shocking - I have asked the Home  Secretary to chair a COBRA meeting.'

This afternoon the area’s MP, Nick Raynsford,  told BBC Radio 5 Live he believed the victim of the attack was a serving  soldier.

The man is believed to have been hacked  to  death after a car crash. The scene of the attack is just 200 yards  from  Woolwich Barracks.

Mr Raynsford said: 'The circumstances causing  the incident are not yet clear. It's been suggested it was the product of a road  traffic accident, but that's pure speculation.

'We think a serving soldier was the victim.  We don't know the circumstances surrounding the incident.

'We do know a number of weapons have been  seized. They include a gun, various knives, and a machete, apparently.

'The police clearly had to take action in  order to try and arrest these individuals.'

The Independent Police Complaints Commission,  which is called in whenever firearms officers shoot people, said it is  investigating.

The Ministry of Defence said it was urgently  looking at the reports that the incident involved a soldier but had no further  comment.

 
Investigation: An air ambulance can be seen at the scene which is cordoned off after a soldier was hacked to death this afternoon

Investigation: An air ambulance can be seen at the scene  which is cordoned off after a soldier was hacked to death this afternoon

 
Probe: The incident is believed to have started after this car crashed. Fluid can be seen which has leaked from the car

Probe: The incident is believed to have started after  this car crashed. Fluid can be seen which has leaked from the car

 

 
Weapons: Forensic experts bag up evidence at the scene which is believed to include a number of weapons

Weapons: Forensic experts bag up evidence at the scene  which is believed to include a number of weapons

Footage from a television news helicopter  showed a large collection of weapons lying in the street in Woolwich following  the incident.

A spokesman for the London Ambulance Service  said one man had died at the scene.

He said: 'Our staff treated two others. Both  men were taken to hospital, one of them is in a serious condition, the other is  not.'

One witness, identified as James, said he and  his partner saw two black men attack the young victim with knives, including a  meat cleaver.

'They were hacking at this poor guy,  literally,' he told LBC. 'They were hacking at him, chopping him, cutting  him.'

Fighting back tears, James said the men  treated their victim as a 'piece of meat' after he was dead.

'These two guys were crazed,' he told the  radio station. 'They were just animals. They dragged him from the pavement and  dumped his body in the middle of the road and left his body there.'

The incident occurred near the Royal  Artillery Barracks, adjacent to Woolwich Common, the historical home of the  Royal Artillery.

The barracks, also known as the Woolwich  station, now houses a number of the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery and  independent companies of the Grenadier and Coldstream Guards.

Woolwich Common remains a designated military  training area. The shooting events at the 2012 Summer Olympics and Paralympics  were held at a temporary venue at the Barracks.

Luke Huseyin, 32, who lives in a block of  flats on John Wilson Street, Woolwich, close to where the incident happened said  he watched two men murder a man before being shot.

 

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Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

this is a really terrible incident. . terror attack or not

 

I also think it is terrible that it took the cops 20 minutes to get there after the first 999 calls from the public. . 

The police were there earlier but they had to wait for armed police to arrive 

then they shot the murdering b@stards

pirate1111

on London local news they showed just after the attack with the poor guy's body dragged into the centre of the road and no Police presence as yet. .one of the attackers holding a meat chopper, about 6 inches big was being filmed by an onlooker, of which there were bluddy loads, apparently explaining why they had done it. .

 

Loads of people all watching the two guys afterwards. .no cop presence as yet . .onlookers outnumbering the 2 by 10 to one minimum, easy to jump them by then and hold em down .. not a single one of them did a bluddy thing except film it all  for their moment of fame, on youtube  probably, to give those voyeurs that like to see stuff in all its goriness a chance to view too. .  

 

disgusting  sicko's who rather get their tweet or vid up than help.. 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

this is a really terrible incident. . terror attack or not

 

I also think it is terrible that it took the cops 20 minutes to get there after the first 999 calls from the public. . 

The police were there earlier but they had to wait for armed police to arrive 

there was no sign of them in the ' killer interview' vid just shown on the news and the crowds were just walking or skipping quickly past the murderes..  all they had to do was jump em form behind. cops or no cops [ even if they were hiding some distance away waiting for their back up cos they were too scared of two nutters that previously the public had just been passing by ..]

 

dead, or may still have been living, guy was in the middle of the road and not a one person went to help to see if he could be saved. they just walked by.

 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5m
Sky Sources: two attackers were chanting "Allahu Akbar" and asked passers-by to take photographs of them at the scene

Allahu Akbar.widely associated with the "radical" (fundamental) Muslims who shout it while engaged in Jihad

that is shouted when bombs are dropped on Syria by the poor buggers on  the ground waiting to see where they drop. .it's a general god save/help us type call isn't it?

 

Just seen that some people did try to stop it .. so not everybody is a film recording I'm not getting involved gore hunter then. . that's a relief

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Aimee:

Don't think I would have confronted them even if it was 30 against 2 they were clearly armed and you wouldn't be sure if they had anything taped to their bodies 

yep,

aimees right

but i know what youre saying olly

 

if it was a case of just punches, most would dive in to the rescue

but machetes and Jihad chants would make you think twice

pirate1111
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 5m
Sky Sources: two attackers were chanting "Allahu Akbar" and asked passers-by to take photographs of them at the scene

Allahu Akbar.widely associated with the "radical" (fundamental) Muslims who shout it while engaged in Jihad

that is shouted when bombs are dropped on Syria by the poor buggers on  the ground waiting to see where they drop. .it's a general god save/help us type call isn't it?

 

Just seen that some people did try to stop it .. so not everybody is a film recording I'm not getting involved gore hunter then. . that's a relief

it means God is the greatest or similar to that

but i know its a Jihad chant

anyway

whatever it means its a f*cking awful incident

pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Aimee:

Don't think I would have confronted them even if it was 30 against 2 they were clearly armed and you wouldn't be sure if they had anything taped to their bodies 

yep,

aimees right

but i know what youre saying olly

 

if it was a case of just punches, most would dive in to the rescue

but machetes and Jihad chants would make you think twice

I just saw the videos of them .. it's obvious they weren't wearing anything under their jackets ...  I mean why stab if you have a suicide vest anyway ..afraid I'd be there jumping in to stop em with everyone else I hope too.. but I have always be a react first think later type..  I'd not be filming it  for the ghouls to search out later and pass around that's for sure

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:

There's reports too that a woman tried to stop them when they were attacking their victim Olly 

yeah I did add to my post up there that I heard some tried to help .. go that woman is all I can say..

 

glad I don't do the going out thing anymore. . always thought the public would help if people got into trouble. .seems not anymore..  but they'd make my attacker famous on youtube tho 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Does the fact that the PM is coming back from his trip to hold this COBRA meeting suggest that they think more attacks are possible?

It sounds that way , doesn;t it?  I think the fact it all happened so close to barracks might come into play there though .

It's all frightening either way.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Does the fact that the PM is coming back from his trip to hold this COBRA meeting suggest that they think more attacks are possible?

It sounds that way , doesn;t it?  I think the fact it all happened so close to barracks might come into play there though .

It's all frightening either way.

yeah. Just saw the ITV images of one of the attackers.. horrific 

FM

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