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pirate1111 posted:
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

i think it is (ps viewers, this is velveteen & me, having our first row, no, the honeymoon isnt over...yet)

You two really do crack me up!  You're as good as Morecambe and Wise 

FM
Sprout posted:
pirate1111 posted:
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

i think it is (ps viewers, this is velveteen & me, having our first row, no, the honeymoon isnt over...yet)

You two really do crack me up!  You're as good as Morecambe and Wise 

this is our first dance at our wedding

 

 

 

pirate1111
pirate1111 posted:
Sprout posted:
pirate1111 posted:
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

i think it is (ps viewers, this is velveteen & me, having our first row, no, the honeymoon isnt over...yet)

You two really do crack me up!  You're as good as Morecambe and Wise 

this is our first dance at our wedding

 

 

 

FM
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

Well, he's certainly seen by voters as the anti-establishment candidate, but that really does make me laugh.

Trump is big business, and his career was built on inherited family wealth - his first real estate project was an apartment complex bought by his father for $5.7 million (and that was in the 60s!)

Trump is the establishment.

Eugene's Lair
Eugene's Lair posted:
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

Well, he's certainly seen by voters as the anti-establishment candidate, but that really does make me laugh.

Trump is big business, and his career was built on inherited family wealth - his first real estate project was an apartment complex bought by his father for $5.7 million (and that was in the 60s!)

Trump is the establishment.

And that....is what peeps are cottoning on to   not 'real life' 

FM
velvet donkey posted:
Eugene's Lair posted:
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

Well, he's certainly seen by voters as the anti-establishment candidate, but that really does make me laugh.

Trump is big business, and his career was built on inherited family wealth - his first real estate project was an apartment complex bought by his father for $5.7 million (and that was in the 60s!)

Trump is the establishment.

Come on Eugene. He's no really. Bush and Clinton are the Establishment.

Don't believe everything you see and read Donks  

FM
velvet donkey posted:
Eugene's Lair posted:
velvet donkey posted:

He's the anti-establishment vote and he's doing a pretty good job I think. No business of The Pope's   

Well, he's certainly seen by voters as the anti-establishment candidate, but that really does make me laugh.

Trump is big business, and his career was built on inherited family wealth - his first real estate project was an apartment complex bought by his father for $5.7 million (and that was in the 60s!)

Trump is the establishment.

Come on Eugene. He's no really. Bush and Clinton are the Establishment.

Bush, yes: the family fortune is centred on oil.

 

Clinton, not so much. Bill's father was a travelling salesman, and his career was built on education (winning a Rhodes Scholarship) rather than inherited family wealth and established connections. Hillary's background is perhaps more traditional middle-class, but her family were hardly rich, and again her career was built on education.

 

Trump, with his wealthy business background, is much more establishment than the Clintons.

Eugene's Lair
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velvet donkey posted:

Okay, who do you want to win? 

I know it's another cop-out, but TBH I don't feel comfortable talking about favourites when - as someone who's not American and can't vote - I only really see it in foreign policy terms.

Let's just say that the thought of either Trump, or one or two of the other Republican candidates (especially Ben Carson) becoming President frightens the life out of me, so: anyone but them!

Eugene's Lair
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:
pirate1111 posted:

i remember our first meeting well

velveteen was wearing a kilt

he said 'put yer hand up there!'

i did

i said 'ooooh its gruesome'

velveteen said 'och aye put yer hand up again, its gruesome more'

 

Ooh Velvet you've turned him ..........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...............turned him into an Honorary Scot!

the wedding march

pirate1111

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