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I felt sorry for Rodrigo because he wasn`t knowingly being offensive to Lisa - yet she didn`t seem to realise its a language thing.
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I thought Rodrigo was brilliant tonight he made me laugh 
He so was being rude,he was very aware of what and how he said it. 
thought he said lisa was a her or him
quote:Originally posted by Jeggo:
I felt sorry for Rodrigo because he wasn`t knowingly being offensive to Lisa - yet she didn`t seem to realise its a language thing.
I watched this clip twice and agree that it seemed to be about language. I think Lisa was already fired up by the thought that any HM would nominate her as she had only been up for eviction once. She's as deluded as Charlie.
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
quote:Originally posted by erinp:
He so was being rude,he was very aware of what and how he said it.
She'd have had a go at him no matter what he said. She was looking for an argument.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
Nosferatu ??? - sorry Senora - can`t work that one out ?
quote:Originally posted by Jeggo:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
Nosferatu ??? - sorry Senora - can`t work that one out ?
Nosferatu=German Dracula=Lisa.
I felt it was a bit disingenous that Rodrigo suddenly lost his command of the English language, but it was funny. 
quote:Originally posted by watcher1:
I watched this clip twice and agree that it seemed to be about language. I think Lisa was already fired up by the thought that any HM would nominate her as she had only been up for eviction once. She's as deluded as Charlie.
and
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
Yep
He knew 
We got killed as kids for saying her/she so I can see where Lisa is coming from but I don't think Rodrigo realises just how bad it is.
He was riled up and it just came out.
He was riled up and it just came out.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by Jeggo:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
Nosferatu ??? - sorry Senora - can`t work that one out ?
Nosferatu=German Dracula=Lisa.
Oh ok ta. Sounded like she`s got a ferret up her nose and it made her sneeze. Nosferatishoo
he didn't realise, but the two thickies wouldn't be able to fathom that one out oh gawd tonights HL's were the funniest of the whole series, can't stop giggling
oh gawd tonights HL's were the funniest of the whole series, can't stop giggling quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
I felt it was a bit disingenous that Rodrigo suddenly lost his command of the English language, but it was funny.
Having taught English as a second language I thought that he was completely consistant.
He would have been taught saying him or her is appropriate when talking about someone and it is.
Normally people who are being insulting when they use him or her do it with inflection, which he didn't do.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
I called her that when I watched her tonight Senora...that's exactly who she looked like.
quote:Originally posted by Lion:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
I called her that when I watched her tonight Senora...that's exactly who she looked like.
I posted this last night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvrBWCtylyI
quote:Originally posted by Sir HP:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
I felt it was a bit disingenous that Rodrigo suddenly lost his command of the English language, but it was funny.
Having taught English as a second language I thought that he was completely consistant.
He would have been taught saying him or her is appropriate when talking about someone and it is.
Normally people who are being insulting when they use him or her do it with inflection, which he didn't do.
Thanks HP.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
COMIN FOR A FAG DAVE?....
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
COMIN FOR A FAG DAVE?....
OMG the shoulders 
It was a language difficulty.
But if he was speaking to David it would be OK to say "her " if referring to Lisa, although as she was present it would also have possible to include her directly.
But I saw it as a language thing.
But if he was speaking to David it would be OK to say "her " if referring to Lisa, although as she was present it would also have possible to include her directly.
But I saw it as a language thing.
Nanu Nanu.
quote:Originally posted by Xochiquetzal:
I posted this last night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvrBWCtylyI
That's the one.
Have to admit it was rude to pull Rodrigo up on that. They should have just said call people by name not by gender and it probably would have clicked with him.
Having said that, as I see Rodrigo as human excretia I wasn't particularly perturbed.
Having said that, as I see Rodrigo as human excretia I wasn't particularly perturbed.
[quote]I felt it was a bit disingenous that Rodrigo suddenly lost his command of the English language, but it was funny.
Having taught English as a second language I thought that he was completely consistant.
He would have been taught saying him or her is appropriate when talking about someone and it is.
Normally people who are being insulting when they use him or her do it with inflection, which he didn't do.
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
Having taught English as a second language I thought that he was completely consistant.
He would have been taught saying him or her is appropriate when talking about someone and it is.
Normally people who are being insulting when they use him or her do it with inflection, which he didn't do.
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:
[quote]I felt it was a bit disingenous that Rodrigo suddenly lost his command of the English language, but it was funny.
Having taught English as a second language I thought that he was completely consistant.
He would have been taught saying him or her is appropriate when talking about someone and it is.
Normally people who are being insulting when they use him or her do it with inflection, which he didn't do.
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
Yes it was definitely gratuitous. They could have just explained to him why that could be seen to be offensive but Lisa didn't and David doesn't know what day it is most of the time so can't blame him really.
Good opportunity to explain to a foreign person how English people take things that was bypassed in favour of making him look rude.
But as I said, Roddy as you call him is a complete waste of space so no sympathy from me.
quote:Originally posted by Nemesis:
Have to admit it was rude to pull Rodrigo up on that. They should have just said call people by name not by gender and it probably would have clicked with him.
Having said that, as I see Rodrigo as human excretia I wasn't particularly perturbed.
Some people have problems with verbal expression and others with spelling. I guess I can respect both. Hope Rodrigo makes it to the final.
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
It was nothing to do with Rodrigo calling "Nosferatu" her, she was pissed off regarding nominations, she's lost control, and was simply taking out her vile frustrations on poor Rodders.
There's a reason why Lisa is single.
COMIN FOR A FAG DAVE?....
Yep that's her..Note the coat and the uncanny resembelance to Lisa's dressing gown.
quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
When the him or her is stressed (not inflection as I first said
) so it would be something like I don't want to spend time with her
quote:Yes it was definitely gratuitous. They could have just explained to him why that could be seen to be offensive but Lisa didn't and David doesn't know what day it is most of the time so can't blame him really.
Good opportunity to explain to a foreign person how English people take things that was bypassed in favour of making him look rude.
But as I said, Roddy as you call him is a complete waste of space so no sympathy from me.
Not sticking up for him tho I do like him out of that bunch, I just thought it was a very silly attack on him, I could have said the same and would not think it rude. I agree, Lisa was just making trouble in the end.
quote:Originally posted by Sir HP:quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
When the him or her is stressed (not inflection as I first said
I don't want to spend time with her
Yep, they jumped on him. It must have been obvious to Lisa at least that he could see no harm in it and instead of explaining she made a big deal of it. Bit below the belt but I expect she was feeling quite defensive already by then.
quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
When the him or her is stressed (not inflection as I first said ) so it would be something like
I don't want to spend time with her
Ahh, I see, yes, thank you, I can see now that it is pointed out how that could be seen as rude. Still, lot of fuss about very little and lets see her speak portugese as well as he speaks english, yes?
quote:Originally posted by Nemesis:
Yep, they jumped on him. It must have been obvious to Lisa at least that he could see no harm in it and instead of explaining she made a big deal of it. Bit below the belt but I expect she was feeling quite defensive already by then.
I think she was just wound up by that stage and would have gone for anything, I suspect she really did think he was being more offensive than he was.
TBH I think Lisa and David had every right to nominate and the pressure put on them was ridiculous. Charlie and Roderigo yelled at Siavash last week for not nominating and felt so sick today at people nominating they wanted to leave (hmmmmmn well they nearly left
eh). Basically they just want everyone to do what they say, which of course is crap. Also I seem to remember Lisa was the one person totally unconcerned with Siavash not nominating.quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:quote:Originally posted by cinderella123:
Humm, even with english as a first language, I cant see why that is insulting. What am I missing???? Lisa is a female, so her/she would be totally proper. Is it some sort of slang thing to consider this rude? If I dont know it, why would Roddy?
When the him or her is stressed (not inflection as I first said ) so it would be something like
I don't want to spend time with her
Ahh, I see, yes, thank you, I can see now that it is pointed out how that could be seen as rude. Still, lot of fuss about very little and lets see her speak portugese as well as he speaks english, yes?
Well there you have it. She has been hated for every reason under the sun that made no sense to me but her attitude to a foreigner who has bothered to learn our language was unforgiveable. Nobody commented on it.
We are lucky to speak a language so many other countries make a point of learning. I doubt it will even make BB news.
quote:Originally posted by Sir HP:quote:Originally posted by Nemesis:
Yep, they jumped on him. It must have been obvious to Lisa at least that he could see no harm in it and instead of explaining she made a big deal of it. Bit below the belt but I expect she was feeling quite defensive already by then.
I think she was just wound up by that stage and would have gone for anything, I suspect she really did think he was being more offensive than he was.
TBH I think Lisa and David had every right to nominate and the pressure put on them was ridiculous. Charlie and Roderigo yelled at Siavash last week for not nominating and felt so sick today at people nominating they wanted to leave (hmmmmmn well they nearly left
It would have been poetic justice in a way if they all had walked out lol. We all knew it was never going to happen. Oh wells
quote:Originally posted by Nemesis:
Well there you have it. She has been hated for every reason under the sun that made no sense to me but her attitude to a foreigner who has bothered to learn our language was unforgiveable. Nobody commented on it.
We are lucky to speak a language so many other countries make a point of learning. I doubt it will even make BB news.
Ah see that's where we disagree, I can see why others don't like her for the nominations manipulating. I don't have a problem with it as I've enjoyed the ride. I think the best illustration of the team nominating was when Freddies total dropped from about 7 to zero in one week. I think she's being honest about not expecting to win and realised her best chance of getting all the way throu was to ensure she was up as little as possible.
At one time they were all talking about going up and Lisa was considering it and Kenneth who obviously knew the score outside took her to on side and very pointedly said you don't want to be up for eviction which she she took on board and backed out of any everybody's up talk.
quote:Originally posted by Sir HP:
Ah see that's where we disagree, I can see why others don't like her for the nominations manipulating. I don't have a problem with it as I've enjoyed the ride. I think the best illustration of the team nominating was when Freddies total dropped from about 7 to zero in one week. I think she's being honest about not expecting to win and realised her best chance of getting all the way throu was to ensure she was up as little as possible.
At one time they were all talking about going up and Lisa was considering it and Kenneth who obviously knew the score outside took her to on side and very pointedly said you don't want to be up for eviction which she she took on board and backed out of any everybody's up talk.
I think you're giving her too much credit. She's streetwise but not intelligent. Every year I see this, when people they like are voted out they accuse someone of block voting which is technically impossible.
Agree to disagree we must