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like Diane Abbot,,,whassname Galloway targeted her and ousted her in a fit of pique against his former party,,
Are you mistaking her for Oona King? I like Diane Abbot but don't think she's articulate enough TBH. I admire all that she stands for but have seen her tied up in knots on a few occasions ..................if nothing else you need to be able to get your point across and good speaking skilss are required. I think it'll be one of the Milibands although personally I favour Ed Balls ...............dont think he'll be the popular choice though.
Soozy Woo
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Are you mistaking her for Oona King? I like Diane Abbot but don't think she's articulate enough TBH. I admire all that she stands for but have seen her tied up in knots on a few occasions ..................if nothing else you need to be able to get your point across and good speaking skilss are required. I think it'll be one of the Milibands although personally I favour Ed Balls ...............dont think he'll be the popular choice though.
Ed Balls would be my choice if he stood for it. Hopes he hasn't and I'm not showing my eggnorance.
LowonIQ
Unlike all the other candidates (with exception of Diane Abbot) John McDonnell has voted consistently against some of the more authoritarian and Thatcherite-lite policies of New Labour.  He's been strongly critical of the Iraq war and Labour's paranoid anti-terrorism stance.  He will take Labour to the left without a doubt and would be a clear break from the New Labour era. 



As far as winning the next election goes, unfortunately in this media age of vacuous sound bites and forty something ex-public school boys in smart suits huddling around a consensus middle he would guarantee a Labour defeat.



Of the forty something ex-public school boys in smart suits huddling around a consensus middle, Ed Miliband would be my choice.

Carnelian
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Same here...... she is one of the few politicians , on any side, who seems to actually have principles and the courage of her convictions.
Yeah but no! After she had barked at her constituents in Hackney for ages about the local schools improving, and to have faith in the local state education provisions she went and sent her son to the fee paying City of London Boys School (@ÂĢ14,000/year fees)....so she's not completely altruistic.
suzybean
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Mine too ........I think I prefer him to his brother but I do need to hear a bit more from both of them before I decide.





me too.  I'd like to hear what all of them have to say and how the ones such as Balls and the Milibands intend to break with some of right wing policies of the New Labour era which they all voted for.  Apparently, Balls was recently asked what he disagreed with during Brown's time.  His answer was the 10pc tax rate abolition.  He then admitted that although he disagreed with it, he didn't say so at the time.  Those are poor leadership credentials.



I'd like to hear more from John McDonnell as he seems the ideal candidate.  However, sadly these days a leader needs to be a bit a spinning PR boy with a nice line in instantly memorable sound bites that sound good but say nothing overall.  He will need to unite the party and it will be interesting to see if he has the leadership attributes to make that a possibility. Then there's the rather more difficult matter of convincing the country that Labour have changed and will run the country better.



Carnelian
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He didn't go to public school, he went here





Fair enough, should have researched that one.  I think the Milibands come over as being in that smug class of career politician who it's natural to assume went to public school and I'd be surprised if most voters don't think the same.  Being perceived as something is often as bad as being something. 



Four months is a good long time for them to make their claims and perhaps in the cases of the Milibands, shed some of that career politician Clegg-Cameron-Blair PR boy image that I think will increasingly annoy voters in months to come.
Carnelian
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Being perceived as something is often as bad as being something
Is that the best you could come up with? It's worse when the person doing the perceiving has got it completely wrong...I don't actually think the public school educated or not issue should make a blind bit of difference to how capable someone can be in public office. I've been in both state and private education when I was growing up...I didn't see anything essentially different in the friends I made along the way.
suzybean
I'm not a Labour voter, but it strikes me that the Party hasn't got a lot to choose from.

Diane Abbott is as big a hypocrite as many others and she does tend to speak out without properly researching her subject.

Ed Balls...I know and he always has been an arrogant twonk

The Millibands...would prefer to see Ed there rather than Mr Bean....because Ed seems to be able to speak better than his brother

No idea who the other two are


So on balance, for me it would have to be Ed Milliband
Kaytee

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