Gawd!!! I could have done multiple votes there

Hated the bf/gf thing.....and Nikki Graham(nuff said)....I hated the all female house as well....in fact I voted for that because it annoyed me right at the start and must have turned quite a few peeps off watching

The Nikki and Aisleyne evictions were nothing alike. We were told in advance that the week Ais went, whoever got evicted would go next door and eventually be brought back.
But we were told no such thing with Nikki. People paid to get her out and assumed her eviction was final. It was an overwhelming vote, too - she was least popular out of 11 HMs up for eviction that week.

By the way, Veggie - I can't claim credit for the 'Spongeface Hotpants' nickname, someone on C4 forum came up with it. Bravo them, whoever they were!

Nikki being evicted in week eight was yet another example of BB tampering with the format.

Jayne breaks the rules (discussing her perception of the housemates from before she had entered) - BB randomly decide to place everyone except Jayne up for eviction - Nikki is the housemate evicted as consequence of this.

So, viewers are happy to phone up and vote out a housemate that BB put up for eviction unfairly - but not happy when the same housemate is returned, equally unfairly. Once you have bought into BB's uneven manipulation of situations and inconsistent interpretation of their own rules, complaining becomes pointless, or even hypocritical; if done selectively.

Good point, but Jayne did break the rules constantly and the group were being punished every time, so putting all the housemates up except her was a smart move of BB's. She had enough warnings and this was her biggest punishment. Plus it gave the nation to choose from a large selection of housemates to be evicted, and they made their voice heard with Nikki....although it should have been Suzie in my opinion.

Jayne was appalling and her days were numbered anyway. But people have been immune from eviction before, so it was hardly anything new.
When given the choice of every HM apart from Jayne, the public overwhelmingly chose to boot Nikki out. Unfortunately, this didn't please the producers, who had clearly already decided she was part of BB7's big story..

Nikki had a programme after BB....that must have taken a lot of planning to line up...it was extremely cynical how she was shoe horned back in to the show and spent the next few days snogging Pete...I completely turned off for the last few weeks of that. That was quite a good summer too 

I think the "commercial interest" mask of BB finally slipped completely in BB7 - e.g. the tie-in with Kit Kat. However, one of the things that bothered me most at the time was the fact that both Grace and Nikki secured TV deals while they were still in the house.
I've never been entirely sure about the production links to "Cirque De Celebrite", but there was a concern at the time that BB were playing-down the portrayal and critcism of Grace's behaviour in the house because she was being groomed for other projects.
No doubts about "Princess Nikki" though: that was definitely an Endemol show...

I'll never give up wondering what the producers promised Richard, in return for toeing the Endemol line.
One minute he hates 'horse-face Grace', the next, he's sucking up to her in the house next door. One minute Lea is his bestest buddy, the next he's forgotten her and is elbow-twisting the others into letting Nikki back in.
Funny, it was supposed to be a unanimous vote from all of them on who got back in. But Richard was the only one who initially said her name. Even Pete (supposedly pining without her, yeah right) said Lea, not Nikki.
I'm convinced Richard thought he would either win, or gain some other advantage out of helping engineer that 'Pikki' rubbish. Once Nikki was back in, every time she and Pete drifted more than a few feet apart, Richard was there to shove them together again, like a demented fluff-girl.
He's apparently quite bitter that he didn't win, according to that book written by Narinder of BB3. Maybe he thought he'd 'earned' it?

Do you have some evidence of this - is there footage of contracts being signed in the DR? Surely it would be more likely that deals were secured while they were out of the house?

I believe wheels are set in motion for housemates - and if Endemol/C4 had a stake in any future work there is an unhealthy vested interest involved. However, although Grace was not tarred and feathered as some seemingly hoped she would be... she was also never presented by BB in anything other than a negative way - certainly not how you groom someone for further projects.

Richard was certainly on side with regard to the return of Nikki. Glyn would have potentially put a case forward for Lea - which Aisleyne, Jennie and even Pete may have agreed with - so BB created a punishment for Glyn that manipulated the situation to secure the result that they wanted all along.

Both TV show appearances were announced while the respective HMs were inside the BB house. I would imagine that the actual contracts were signed at some other time. The impression I got was that these HMs had agents working for them before they entered the house - a very different situation from previous years.


As for Grace's portrayal - sorry, but in the early stages, excuses were frequently made for her behaviour on BBLB. I don't think any neutral could have described her portrayal as "negative". Indeed, there was a very strong feeling in the first couple of weeks that she was a "favoured" HM. It was only in the week leading up to her eviction that shows such as BBLB really started to acknowledge just how badly she'd been behaving.

 In fact, the plan was nearly scuppered even without Glyn. I clearly remember both Pete and Aisleyne initially saying they wanted Lea back. Not sure about Jennie. Richard went into a panic flap and basically hounded them all into agreeing that Nikki should be chosen instead.

Wow....just have to say I'm impressed with the levels of analyses here....I've never thought that deeply about BB (I'm not taking the mick).

I never had either suzy, until the Nikki thing. That was when they started blatantly fiddling with the process, and started the beginning of the end for BB.

I'm sure they started 'fiddling' in BB6 when they put Craig in to deliberately make me feel angry all the time

Craig was the one most interested in 'fiddling' with a piss-drunk Anfonee, as far as I remember!

Just for rawky...

Ooooooooooh what book is that? Personally I loved Narinder - I think I'd like to read that.

There you go:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=narinder+big+brother&x=14&y=17

I don't own it because I couldn't stand Narinder. But she dishes the dirt, so I've heard.

There was no CdC announcement while Grace was in the BB house and the line-up for the show was not confirmed until September 2006. The earliest mentions that i can find (via Google search) are a BBC article relating to the autumn schedule on Sky from August 25th and a thread that i started on Digital Spy in early September.

Dermot suggested Grace could be a contender to win in the very early stages but that opinion soon changed. By the middle of week two Sezer and Grace were perceived as pillars of evil - your suggestion that Grace was favoured for the first couple of weeks is too vague and suggests a timespan longer that is accurate. Regardless of support from the early stages of BBLB this does not support your point that Grace was being groomed for future projects. As early as the Big Brotherhood task viewers were describing Grace as spoilt and manipulative - not the usual perception of a housemate being shown favour.

Mary should have stayed over Craig.


One of the best ideas was getting the housemates to choose between the 2 housemates that got the least votes once all of them was up for eviction like Makosi and Vanessa in BB6.

Grace was linked to the show in July (although they got the title wrong) - see http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bi...one-circus-show.html

This was after she left the house (first time) though, so I got that wrong - sorry. I was probably misremembering because it was between her eviction and returning to the house...


I remembered clearly that she was linked to the show while BB was on (and a long time before anyone-else) because it did seem that the new circus show could almost have been designed with the "dance teacher" Grace in mind...

I absolutely hated that idea - it might have worked better if the hms who were deciding were allowed to cast their votes privately. The problem with voting publicly one after the other is that there seemed to be a lot of 'follow my leader' going on.

Plus, from a 'you decide' POV it was pants as Makosi polled many times more votes to be evicted than Vanessa and so should have gone.

Btw I really love this thread - it's like old times


Cold Sweat - was that Grace who uttered the peasant wagons line? I thought it was Nikki in the DR

So the Daily Star was the source of this speculation - which was ultimately correct!

Wonders never cease, eh?

The phrase was first attributed to Nikki before she entered the house - I can't remember if it was on her VT.

If Grace did say it (and I don't remember her doing so) she may have been quoting Nikki. Nikki also used the phrase on BBLB.

Thanks Eugene - I did think it was Nikki.
Nice to see you around

Likewise - especially with the start of BB11 fast approaching...

I hated Rex's gf being put in the house, so that had to come first!

There are many other things that have annoyed me ..... however my abiding gripe is when they started allowing hms to flout the rules and didn't enforce them.... should just kick them out when they break rules regardless of how popular they are, and NO-ONE should EVER return to the House.

You are correct - it was Nikki!

I have amended my earlier reply to EL.

There was a similar situation in BB8 where housemates should have been forced to make a tough decision between choosing to keep either Gerry or Carole. Unfortunately Gerry was allowed to play the martyr and more or less evicted himself by putting forward a strong case that Carole deserved to stay more than he did. What we should have had was Carole and Gerry banished to the DR whilst the others squirmed over the decision.

In the same series the Halfway House twist was ruined because BB seemingly lacked the courage to evict one of the original housemates - and twisted the scenario until they gained the result that sent expendable newbies home.

That was first done in the first week of BB3, where the HMs chose to keep Jade over Lynne. At least on that occasion the two HMs weren't present during the voting.

Re Makosi/Vanessa: it sounded OK in theory, but IMO was rather unpleasant in practise. I discussed this with "The Real BB" on the old forum, and he thought it was brilliant TV. I had to explain to him that watching a young woman being reduced to tears on live TV wasn't my idea of entertainment...


Also, as others have pointed out, there was a feeling of injustice, as Makosi would have been toast on a straight public vote...

Yup ... that's the one

She was excellent first off Pure housemate gold imo

BUT!! once she came out and realised what people loved her for, she went back in and totally overplayed it ... ruined it imo

Oh & The Bedsit was fabulous Imo

The bedsit was pure class. I absoloutely loved it ........especially when they came back in fancy dress and all hell let loose. That was one very special BB night IMO.

Also loved the prison task.

for me out of that list it would be jades bullying, never did undestand how a nasty piece of work like her was so liked

BB3 was when I started watching the show. I was pleased when they decided to keep Jade in.


As for Vanessa I agree it was uncomfortable when she was crying and she was a nice girl but I was again pleased when Makosi remained.. she was for me one of the most memorable things about BB6  good and bad reasons considered plus one of my fav hm's of all time.

Makosi - I couldn't stand her

I liked Makosi until she started all that 'pregnant' rubbish. But she didn't deserve the hostile reception she got from Davina and the crowd. All she did was have a drunken fling in the pool, but she got treated as if she was the whore of Babylon.
Antnee did the same and ended up the winner, fgs. Double standards..

Vanessa was boring. She did bugger all in there, apart from giggle and wear lots of pink.