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Sorry, that's a bit OTT in my opinion.

Not suggesting we should sweep it under the carpet and forget about it, but THAT, to me, is not really any different to saying women shouldn't go out after a certain time....and certainly not alone!



We should be attempting to make it safe AND FAIR for everyone, not just basically reverse the perceived roles.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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I did roll my eyes when I first read it...I mean come on let's be realistic........ stats show that 1 in 10 women that were raped, was perpetrated by a stranger...it is usually by a person known to them and more often than not in their homes, at the office, etc.

To punish all men is in my view extremely unfair.........you are right EFFT ...people need to be educated to help make the streets safe for everyone. Not just for women against rape but for men from being assaulted/stabbed etc.

And I do feel the the punishment should fit the crime.......although I am against any form of violence.

slimfern

I think it depends on how literally you take Baroness Jones' call.

I haven't looked into the details of her speech, but it does sound like she was perfectly serious and as such I agree it's rather OTT.

However, I do also agree with many who've seen it just as a means to make a point: as with the Yorkshire Ripper case decades before, the immediate response to the Sarah Everard case has been an effective curfew on women by advising them to stay at home, rather than proactive action to make the streets safer. However well intentioned, it comes across as victim-blaming, and an inability/unwillingness to deal with the problem properly.

Eugene's Lair
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@slimfern posted:

Saw a petition online asking for women to be allowed to carry pepper spray ?

I don't like the idea of pepper spray being made legal, and certainly not in some selective way (although that said, the police are exempt). Attack alarms are available, of course, but again this is all still putting the onus on the woman as a "potential victim", rather than trying to deal with the problem at a societal level...

Eugene's Lair

I don't like the idea of pepper spray being made legal, and certainly not in some selective way (although that said, the police are exempt). Attack alarms are available, of course, but again this is all still putting the onus on the woman as a "potential victim", rather than trying to deal with the problem at a societal level...

Spot on Eugene

Baz

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