aww can nobody answer my questions?

There weren't any council election in my area, just the Euro elections.

My Council is still Labour and will continue to be so until we have local elections (and they may still hold on)...I suspect this is the case in other areas too.

I haven't looked at the figures in the last few hours and the numbers were still rolling in so I can't answer the rest of the question.

Wasn't much help was I?

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
1) Have Conservatives taken all the Labour seats in the Country?

2) If yes, do the Labour Council Leaders lose their Jobs over night?

3) If no, what happens next?


I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

Thanks in advance for any answers, I have taken more interest as I have got older but still not sure on some things ..please come in and ask any questions if you have any, dont think peeps will think you are thick,( I AM thick around Politics tho! ) we have a bunch of good people on here who know what they are talking about..

1) not every one but most at least in regions where elections were held, normaly elections to local councils are held 3 out of every 4 years with 1/3 of the council up on each occasion

2) if they are no longer in the majority on the council then yes whoevers party make up the majority (or have an agreement with another party to take control) will take over as leader, but if they kept their seat then they keep their job as a councillor. if the council becomes no overall control then the leader will be from the largest single group.



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Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

hi bages
yeah they have to shove off
i haven't checked who won what, mainly euro mp placements.

1) Not yet
2) don't think so
3) there will be a hand over

Don't think it effects the MP at Westminster until General Election, not sure though.

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Originally posted by electric6:
There weren't any council election in my area, just the Euro elections.

My Council is still Labour and will continue to be so until we have local elections (and they may still hold on)...I suspect this is the case in other areas too.

I haven't looked at the figures in the last few hours and the numbers were still rolling in so I can't answer the rest of the question.

Wasn't much help was I?

yes you were actually coz I clean forgot it was the Euro elections told ya I was thick around politics...ooer

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
1) Have Conservatives taken all the Labour seats in the Country?

2) If yes, do the Labour Council Leaders lose their Jobs over night?

3) If no, what happens next?


I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

Thanks in advance for any answers, I have taken more interest as I have got older but still not sure on some things ..please come in and ask any questions if you have any, dont think peeps will think you are thick,( I AM thick around Politics tho! ) we have a bunch of good people on here who know what they are talking about..

1) not every one but most at least in regions where elections were held, normaly elections to local councils are held 3 out of every 4 years with 1/3 of the council up on each occasion

2) if they are no longer in the majority on the council then yes whoevers party make up the majority (or have an agreement with another party to take control) will take over as leader, but if they kept their seat then they keep their job as a councillor. if the council becomes no overall control then the leader will be from the largest single group.



3)see 2

cheers

If a Labour run council lose there majority then the party with the highest maj run the council, that party will vote within their group who their leader will be, he or she will be the laeder of the said council.
Yesrerdays elections were to vote on the european parliament,not the UK parliament,however it does indicate what would be the likely conclusion if we had a snap election very soon ,that is why MP's on all sides of the house are asking Brown to stand down.

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

Thanks in advance for any answers, I have taken more interest as I have got older but still not sure on some things ..please come in and ask any questions if you have any, dont think peeps will think you are thick,( I AM thick around Politics tho! ) we have a bunch of good people on here who know what they are talking about..

votes in councils have no effect on the makeup of the mp's other than to get them to take notice of public opinion.

votes cast in local council elections work the same way as westminster in that the person in each ward with the most votes is elected.

I don't know but I'll hazard a guess. As the elections are planned, I imagine it is like being made redundant. You expect you might end up going on the day so you clear your desk in anticipation and start saying "If I'm here after this week then ..." to everyone you have dealings with.

There is still all the council appartatus in place, like with the relationship between the government and the civil service, it's just that the policy makers change so I bet they can basically just go on the day.

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

Thanks in advance for any answers, I have taken more interest as I have got older but still not sure on some things ..please come in and ask any questions if you have any, dont think peeps will think you are thick,( I AM thick around Politics tho! ) we have a bunch of good people on here who know what they are talking about..

votes in councils have no effect on the makeup of the mp's other than to get them to take notice of public opinion.

votes cast in local council elections work the same way as westminster in that the person in each ward with the most votes is elected.

off topic (re: your sig) but what did GlaxoSmithKline do? Are they a medical firm? I know I have heard of them and I thought they were folding..I may be wrong, please enlighten me

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

We don't have a clue at all .

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I don't know but I'll hazard a guess. As the elections are planned, I imagine it is like being made redundant. You expect you might end up going on the day so you clear your desk in anticipation and start saying "If I'm here after this week then ..." to everyone you have dealings with.

There is still all the council appartatus in place, like with the relationship between the government and the civil service, it's just that the policy makers change so I bet they can basically just go on the day.

A bit like with Ken Livingstone when Boris got in? I know a few lost their jobs overnight

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

quote:

Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

... We really should brush up on our politics though...

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

quote:

Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

We don't have a clue at all .

Its just too complicated

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Originally posted by erinp:

Yesrerdays elections were to vote on the european parliament,not the UK parliament,however it does indicate what would be the likely conclusion if we had a snap election very soon ,that is why MP's on all sides of the house are asking Brown to stand down.

because the euro elections cover larger areas and use a totally different voting system its almost impossible for them to give a representation of how things would apply at a general election beyond the raw percentages. the council elections though do give a fair indication unless there are extenuating local circumstances (like an independent anti hospital closure candidate who wins).

its also worth noting that tactical voting (where voters vote for someone to protest against another party) is massive in the euro elections and quite high in council elections compared to general elections.

normaly fewest people vote in euro elections, and most vote in general elections with council elections falling between the two..

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

quote:

Originally posted by darloboy07:

quote:

Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

We don't have a clue at all .

Its just too complicated

it is. Been keeping up, well trying to via news websites, some of it is understandable but most just don't have a clue. Us young uns don't seem to be interested much in it anyways .

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

quote:

Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

Thanks in advance for any answers, I have taken more interest as I have got older but still not sure on some things ..please come in and ask any questions if you have any, dont think peeps will think you are thick,( I AM thick around Politics tho! ) we have a bunch of good people on here who know what they are talking about..

votes in councils have no effect on the makeup of the mp's other than to get them to take notice of public opinion.

votes cast in local council elections work the same way as westminster in that the person in each ward with the most votes is elected.

off topic (re: your sig) but what did GlaxoSmithKline do? Are they a medical firm? I know I have heard of them and I thought they were folding..I may be wrong, please enlighten me

they make lucazade and sponsor this years live feed free big brother.

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
i

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

quote:

Originally posted by darloboy07:

quote:

Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

We don't have a clue at all .

Its just too complicated

it is. Been keeping up, well trying to via news websites, some of it is understandable but most just don't have a clue. Us young uns don't seem to be interested much in it anyways .

Im bored with the news and politics matterfact I have banned myself from watching it because its all bad news and im trying to be happy...

A US woman I used to know called Darby, whose Dad had been a senator told me that her Dad had taught her that there is only one question that you need to ask when you hear a politician speaking, Bagel. I think it may be a famous quote.

"Why is this man lying to me?"

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

they make lucazade and sponsor this years live feed free big brother.

I've been boycotting them and all of their products for the last 20 + years anyway BBBS. From the days when they were 3 separate companies, Wellcome, Glaxo and SmithKline Beecham.
Not to mention regularly demonstrating outside various establishments of theirs

They are vivisectors

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

A bit like with Ken Livingstone when Boris got in? I know a few lost their jobs overnight

kind of, yes boris beat red ken so ken lost his job, a lot of london assembely members too were defeated in the election and went too however in london the mayor has an administration and support, boris wasnt going to want to keep red kens men and advisors to help him so they went too, a bit like a council switches from labour to conservative, they will cut council funding to certain "pet" (read politicly correct) projects that labour were using taxpayers money to support.

i have a perfect example of this i could give but believe me when i say for the sake of this thread and your sanity its better that i dont.

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
A US woman I used to know called Darby, whose Dad had been a senator told me that her Dad had taught her that there is only one question that you need to ask when you hear a politician speaking, Bagel. I think it may be a famous quote.

"Why is this man lying to me?"

Too true

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:

quote:

Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

they make lucazade and sponsor this years live feed free big brother.

I've been boycotting them and all of their products for the last 20 + years anyway BBBS. From the days when they were 3 separate companies, Wellcome, Glaxo and SmithKline Beecham.
Not to mention regularly demonstrating outside various establishments of theirs

They are vivisectors

well i wouldnt go that far, but i can appreciate why someone would want to.

mine is just a straightforward bb decision though.

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

off topic (re: your sig) but what did GlaxoSmithKline do? Are they a medical firm? I know I have heard of them and I thought they were folding..I may be wrong, please enlighten me

they make lucazade and sponsor this years live feed free big brother.

but dont they mainly make drugs/medicine?

quote:

Originally posted by Veggieburger:
A US woman I used to know called Darby, whose Dad had been a senator told me that her Dad had taught her that there is only one question that you need to ask when you hear a politician speaking, Bagel. I think it may be a famous quote.

"Why is this man lying to me?"

I say that when most men (ex's) speak!!

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

quote:

Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

I know what I need to know about different parties but I am not sure what happens when say,a Labour run Council loses the votes in the local elections...and what happens in Westminster?

off topic (re: your sig) but what did GlaxoSmithKline do? Are they a medical firm? I know I have heard of them and I thought they were folding..I may be wrong, please enlighten me

they make lucazade and sponsor this years live feed free big brother.

but dont they mainly make drugs/medicine?

yes, and domestic products and drinks, fingers in many many pies, its hard to avoid them without careful label reading.

quote:

Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

A bit like with Ken Livingstone when Boris got in? I know a few lost their jobs overnight

kind of, yes boris beat red ken so ken lost his job, a lot of london assembely members too were defeated in the election and went too however in london the mayor has an administration and support, boris wasnt going to want to keep red kens men and advisors to help him so they went too, a bit like a council switches from labour to conservative, they will cut council funding to certain "pet" (read politicly correct) projects that labour were using taxpayers money to support.

i have a perfect example of this i could give but believe me when i say for the sake of this thread and your sanity its better that i dont.

thanks BBBS and Daniel J..you have been a great help and thanks to darlo PCE and veggie too, it has been an enjoyable question time..

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
i

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

quote:

Originally posted by darloboy07:

quote:

Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Im extremely clueless as well but we do have some political heads in here so will bump this thread for you...

*joins the extremely clueless club too* .

Hi PCE and darlo ...I been waiting for you two to enter!!

We don't have a clue at all .

Its just too complicated

it is. Been keeping up, well trying to via news websites, some of it is understandable but most just don't have a clue. Us young uns don't seem to be interested much in it anyways .

Im bored with the news and politics matterfact I have banned myself from watching it because its all bad news and im trying to be happy...

, good on you PCE.

quote:

Originally posted by Bagel Queen:

quote:

Originally posted by Veggieburger:
A US woman I used to know called Darby, whose Dad had been a senator told me that her Dad had taught her that there is only one question that you need to ask when you hear a politician speaking, Bagel. I think it may be a famous quote.

"Why is this man lying to me?"

I say that when most men (ex's) speak!!

It's when they're in the pre-ex phase that they excel at lying.
It's all "I love You" and "she's just a friend" and "No I won't come in your mouth"

[/QUOTE]Im bored with the news and politics matterfact I have banned myself from watching it because its all bad news and im trying to be happy...[/QUOTE]

The whole thing is hilarious. There hasn't been so much political fun in years. The best part is Gordon will be gone soon. And so will that prig, Mandy, who has been sacked 3 times and wasn't even elected this time.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

Im bored with the news and politics matterfact I have banned myself from watching it because its all bad news and im trying to be happy...[/QUOTE]

The whole thing is hilarious. There hasn't been so much political fun in years. The best part is Gordon will be gone soon. And so will that prig, Mandy, who has been sacked 3 times and wasn't even elected this time.[/QUOTE]Its just a hot mess and everyone is jumping ship and leaving Gordon to sail alone... I do feel for him....