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Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
poor people... its anyone's worst nightmare isnt it?

If not the worst, most definitely tops along with others.

But as Linds says, I can't believe they haven't had more frequent contact with them

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
Now saying that the plane suffered an electrical short circuit about 15 mins after suffering heavy turbulence......it isn't looking good

they have said the electrical fault was minor and not a risk to the flight, but the short COULD have started a fire and of course thats a different story.

Indeed. The information we are getting, is very patchy at the moment

wow i hope thier ok

i knocks me off flying anywhere

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Originally posted by lil_lady:
wow i hope thier ok

i knocks me off flying anywhere

Don't! I have to fly on the 12th!

"The black box will be at the bottom of the sea"

Douglas Ferreira Machado
chief Brazilian air accident investigator

What a sensitive way of phrasing it for the families still holiding on to a tiny bit of hope.

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by lil_lady:
wow i hope thier ok

i knocks me off flying anywhere

Don't! I have to fly on the 12th!

Don't worry gma, the chances of something similar happening are very, very slim Though if you're already a nervous flyer I guess it is very harrrowing.

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Originally posted by Gel:

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by Gel:

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Originally posted by gma:
It's like 'limbo' I guess.

I guess it must be for all the families that are waiting at the airport for news...gawd knows what they must be going through

I can't imagine!
Everly brother's song 'Tell Laura I love her' springs to mind.

Unfotunately that made me smile, as I have a niece called Laura, and I used to sing it to her all the time, now she's 27 and she goes mental when I mention it or start humming the tune

Was it Ricky Valance that did that? I think it was.... but yeah, the whole thing is totally tragic, it sort of puts my shitty mornng totally into perspective

You're right Gel, it was Ricky Valance. Don't know how I got that wrong, sorry.

It's so sad.

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by lil_lady:
wow i hope thier ok

i knocks me off flying anywhere

Don't! I have to fly on the 12th!

Don't worry gma, the chances of something similar happening are very, very slim Though if you're already a nervous flyer I guess it is very harrrowing.

i have my 'buspirone' to hand - lowest dose!

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i have my 'buspirone' to hand - lowest dose! Nod Roll Eyes

Is that for anxiety? I have never been a nervous flyer, but my friend is. I never realised how awful it was until I flew with her!!!!

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Originally posted by gma:

You're right Gel, it was Ricky Valance. Don't know how I got that wrong, sorry.

It's so sad.

Don't have to apolgise, actually the everly bros thing never really sank in, when I first read it! Doh!

my mind is taken up with waiting for extra news, I think we possibly know what the outcome will be, but I just can't help wondering and waiting myself.

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Originally posted by Gel:

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Originally posted by gma:

You're right Gel, it was Ricky Valance. Don't know how I got that wrong, sorry.

It's so sad.

Don't have to apolgise, actually the everly bros thing never really sank in, when I first read it! Doh!

my mind is taken up with waiting for extra news, I think we possibly know what the outcome will be, but I just can't help wondering and waiting myself.

I know I'm hoping for an incredible miracle that at least somebody has survived...their Families must be going through hell now, my heart goes out to all involved...

And Gordon Brown fears there may be British on board.... erm I'm sorry, but even though I understand what he meant/means, the bloody BNP would be proud of him for saying that! Who the blinking heck is his PA?

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:

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i have my 'buspirone' to hand - lowest dose! Nod Roll Eyes

Is that for anxiety? I have never been a nervous flyer, but my friend is. I never realised how awful it was until I flew with her!!!!

Yep, buspirone - 5mg, 1 3x a day - is a tablet you take 5 days before departure and you have to take 4-5 days before you leave your holiday.It doesn't make you drowsy, just stops the nervous tummy - it's not addictive in that dose.

I did only hear a snippet quote of what he said though.

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Originally posted by Gel:
I did only hear a snippet quote of what he said though.

I echo your feeling....does it matter what nationality the people onboard are???? I don't care who they are or where they're from...I'd just like to hear that they are alive!!!

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:

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i have my 'buspirone' to hand - lowest dose! Nod Roll Eyes

Is that for anxiety? I have never been a nervous flyer, but my friend is. I never realised how awful it was until I flew with her!!!!

Yep, buspirone - 5mg, 1 3x a day - is a tablet you take 5 days before departure and you have to take 4-5 days before you leave your holiday.It doesn't make you drowsy, just stops the nervous tummy - it's not addictive in that dose.

That's great that it helps!

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:

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Originally posted by Gel:
I did only hear a snippet quote of what he said though.

I echo your feeling....does it matter what nationality the people onboard are???? I don't care who they are or where they're from...I'd just like to hear that they are alive!!!

exactly, my immediate thought after I heard that bit, was, 'what about all the other nationalities on board'? but as I say, I didn't hear the rest of what he said, so I may be taking it a little out of context, no doubt I'll get to hear the full version in due course...

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:

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i have my 'buspirone' to hand - lowest dose! Nod Roll Eyes

Is that for anxiety? I have never been a nervous flyer, but my friend is. I never realised how awful it was until I flew with her!!!!

Yep, buspirone - 5mg, 1 3x a day - is a tablet you take 5 days before departure and you have to take 4-5 days before you leave your holiday.It doesn't make you drowsy, just stops the nervous tummy - it's not addictive in that dose.

I must try that.
I've become worse and worse at flying over the years.Used to love it,but last time I was sick even before we took off.My daughter wants me to fly with her next month and the very thought of it makes my stomach tie in knots

Back to topic..must be agony for those waiting for news

ok, I've just heard it properly, thankfully, it was only the way in which it was reported

I mean even Gordon Brown aint that thick, is he!

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

How can they run out of fuel?

some time ago most airlines reduced the reserve fuel in their aircraft to lower weight and therefore reduce costs, this plane had an additional 2 hours of fuel above what was needed so it could be diverted if required but even if it was still airborne it would have run out by now.

Oh dear..cost cutting may have cost lives. I`m praying for them all. Please let them be safe.

i dont think there has been a single case of that being an issue since they did it after all 2 hours is a hell of a distance extra.

I`m sorry but I don`t understand your reply.

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Originally posted by Gel:
I mean even Gordon Brown aint that thick, is he!

Please let them be safe.

I agree Scotty!

BBC news have just said likely cause of catastrophe is a lightning strike

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
BBC news have just said likely cause of catastrophe is a lightning strike

And how would the BBC know. Planes get hit by lightening all the time and do not suffer any consequences.
I just wish these news channels would wait instead of speculating. That are supposed to report the news, not make it up if they do not know.

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Originally posted by Me:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
BBC news have just said likely cause of catastrophe is a lightning strike

And how would the BBC know. Planes get hit by lightening all the time and do not suffer any consequences.
I just wish these news channels would wait instead of speculating. That are supposed to report the news, not make it up if they do not know.

Maybe this one wasnt ok.
Apparently the lightning strike caused an electrical failure.

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
I agree Scotty!

Oh DD isn`t this awful? Mazzy`s BBC post doesn`t look good. Somehow it gives me that feeling I had when Lockerbie happened..nothing at all to do with that but the same gut wrenching feeling.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Me:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
BBC news have just said likely cause of catastrophe is a lightning strike

And how would the BBC know. Planes get hit by lightening all the time and do not suffer any consequences.
I just wish these news channels would wait instead of speculating. That are supposed to report the news, not make it up if they do not know.

Maybe this one wasnt ok.
Apparently the lightning strike caused an electrical failure.

I know you are only going by what is reported. But as they have not found the plane then surely everything is pure speculation.

The ads at the bottom of the page are offering lightning protection

Until the plane is found, then everything else can only be speculation. It's a bit irresponsible of the news channels to appear to be making things up as they go along

*Hoping for a miracle*

My ads at the bottom are for overcoming flight phobia

someone on Sky made an interesting point about mobile fones... why didnt someone turn theirs on and call someone if they knew what was happening???

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Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
someone on Sky made an interesting point about mobile fones... why didnt someone turn theirs on and call someone if they knew what was happening???

Never thought of that Maz. It did say that when there's no radar coverage that the pilot can keep in contact via radio telephone, but that doesn't seem to have happened either

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Originally posted by luxor:
Unfortunatlely there is no radar out at sea, once you get beyond 200 miles or so everything is under procedural control.
It does not look good and the area to search will be vast.

Exactly luxor and the Atlantic Ocean is so vast it will be a nigh on impossibility to find where it might have gone down unless, of course, the approximate route can be defined and thereby the search area more easily detected (assuming there is debris of course).

A dreadful tragedy - those poor people.

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Latest Update

How can they run out of fuel?

Because the flight is way overdue now - it was due to land in Paris at 09.10am this morning and it would not have had sufficient fuel to have been able to carry on for much longer without a refuelling stop elsewhere (and that hasn't happened).

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Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
someone on Sky made an interesting point about mobile fones... why didnt someone turn theirs on and call someone if they knew what was happening???

I can hardly get coverage for my phone here so which company is going to pay for coverage in mid atlantic.

I asked this earlier but I didn't see a reply. Wouldn't the plane have had some kind of tracker, like GPS so that a satelite could trace its path. Surely it was following a certain path through the sky, surely they would have had to have fairly regular contact with the ground. You can't just let a plane fly willy nilly with no regards for its whereabouts. If it dropped of radar at a certain point would it not be around this point.

When someone goes missing they can trace where they went through mobile phone signals, even if that signal is not there anymore they can find where it was last.

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Originally posted by Clarence:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

How can they run out of fuel?

I was on a plane from zanzibar to tanzania once (a 20 min flight) and we did a massive u turn 5 mins after take off as apparently they'd forgotten to fill the fuel tanks
Never been so scared in my life!!

It was a 5 seater titchy thing though, hardly a western airways jumbo...

We had a similar experience in Kenya on a small aircraft - same sort of plane as yours (only a 5 seater with no radar)!

We got caught in a tremendous thunderstorm with thunder, lightning, the works. We were thrown about all over the place and I really thought we were going to die!

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Originally posted by Gel:

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by Gel:

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Originally posted by gma:
It's like 'limbo' I guess.

I guess it must be for all the families that are waiting at the airport for news...gawd knows what they must be going through

I can't imagine!
Everly brother's song 'Tell Laura I love her' springs to mind.

Unfotunately that made me smile, as I have a niece called Laura, and I used to sing it to her all the time, now she's 27 and she goes mental when I mention it or start humming the tune

Was it Ricky Valance that did that? I think it was.... but yeah, the whole thing is totally tragic, it sort of puts my shitty mornng totally into perspective

Yes, it was Ricky Valance, not the Everly Brothers!!

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Originally posted by Mummy Maz:
someone on Sky made an interesting point about mobile fones... why didnt someone turn theirs on and call someone if they knew what was happening???

I don`t find that "interesting" MM..sheer stupidity by someone on Sky news.
If they knew what was happening would they not have called, grabbed for their phones to call for help or to say last words to loved ones? Of course they would have, if they had the chance, fighting for their lives..how ridiculous..terrible speculation when we don`t know what`s happened. That kind of speculative stuff must be even more heartbreaking for the families. Sometimes I hate news.

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
I agree Scotty!

Oh DD isn`t this awful? Mazzy`s BBC post doesn`t look good. Somehow it gives me that feeling I had when Lockerbie happened..nothing at all to do with that but the same gut wrenching feeling.

Same here Scotty, I also feel that gut wrenching feeling and sadness...IF the worst has happened (which is looking more & more like it has), what a tragic waste of lives....