Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive....
I was reminded of Humbert Wolfe today, and immediately kicked myself for not thinking of him sooner:
You cannot hope to bribe or twist,
thank God! the British journalist.
But, seeing what the man will do
unbribed, there's no occasion to.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive....
I was reminded of Humbert Wolfe today, and immediately kicked myself for not thinking of him sooner:
You cannot hope to bribe or twist,
thank God! the British journalist.
But, seeing what the man will do
unbribed, there's no occasion to.
Liking this ^^^^ 
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive....
I was reminded of Humbert Wolfe today, and immediately kicked myself for not thinking of him sooner:
You cannot hope to bribe or twist,
thank God! the British journalist.
But, seeing what the man will do
unbribed, there's no occasion to.
Things haven't changed. 
awww, poor Hayman! 
From The Guardian ..
t's time to take out the violin and show some sympathy. Andy Hayman (left), the former Metropolitan police assistant commissioner, has been complaining about the way he was treated when he gave evidence to the Commons home affairs select committee yesterday. In fact, in an interview on Nick Ferrari's programme on LBC, he said he was treated like "a bit of dirt". As whinges go, this is a collector's item. Here's what he said:
I've been through the mill several times in court, in journalistic interviews. I've never been treated like yesterday. There was cat-calling, there was loud laughter from the wings of Chris Bryant. It was an appalling display from them. The irony really is that they don't like being treated in this way disproportionately and yet they're prepared to put us through that.I think all four of us were up for tough questioning, but not on that sort of basis. And to be accused, as I was, of being a dodgy geezer, which is probably on the basis on my accent, I think that's a really poor show ...
Despite trying to actually be helpful to them, all they want to do is score points and most of that is political and with this sort of lynch mob mentality. Bring on the formal inquiry with a respectable judge, when we can actually get some sense out of this. But what we've actually got here is a very, very senior, I guess you could call it a court. It's non-negotiable to be able to go there and when you go along there, you're treated like a bit of dirt.
I'm not asking for special treatment, I just ask for a little bit of respect and not to be basically as a product because of the way in which you speak.
Who knew Chris Bryant had wings?
awww, poor Hayman!
From The Guardian ..
t's time to take out the violin and show some sympathy. Andy Hayman (left), the former Metropolitan police assistant commissioner, has been complaining about the way he was treated when he gave evidence to the Commons home affairs select committee yesterday. In fact, in an interview on Nick Ferrari's programme on LBC, he said he was treated like "a bit of dirt". As whinges go, this is a collector's item. Here's what he said:
I've been through the mill several times in court, in journalistic interviews. I've never been treated like yesterday. There was cat-calling, there was loud laughter from the wings of Chris Bryant. It was an appalling display from them. The irony really is that they don't like being treated in this way disproportionately and yet they're prepared to put us through that.I think all four of us were up for tough questioning, but not on that sort of basis. And to be accused, as I was, of being a dodgy geezer, which is probably on the basis on my accent, I think that's a really poor show ...
Despite trying to actually be helpful to them, all they want to do is score points and most of that is political and with this sort of lynch mob mentality. Bring on the formal inquiry with a respectable judge, when we can actually get some sense out of this. But what we've actually got here is a very, very senior, I guess you could call it a court. It's non-negotiable to be able to go there and when you go along there, you're treated like a bit of dirt.
I'm not asking for special treatment, I just ask for a little bit of respect and not to be basically as a product because of the way in which you speak.
El Loro!
Heheheh! Brilliant, El Loro!
Murdoch has withdrawn his bid for the rest of bskyb. 
I'm such a bigot!
I was rather hoping that this would run and run and that we would end up with some insight into his hegemony and tax affairs. This might then lead into the whole big business tax scandal being publicised beyond Private Eye and Guardian readers.
It doesn't make any difference to me whether or not he owns BSkyB.
I'm such a bigot!
I was rather hoping that this would run and run and that we would end up with some insight into his hegemony and tax affairs. This might then lead into the whole big business tax scandal being publicised beyond Private Eye and Guardian readers.
It doesn't make any difference to me whether or not he owns BSkyB.
I hope it does run and run, and that him withdrawing from going for total ownership doesn't mean that his affairs and methods of operating won't be fully investigated ..
I'm such a bigot!
I was rather hoping that this would run and run and that we would end up with some insight into his hegemony and tax affairs. This might then lead into the whole big business tax scandal being publicised beyond Private Eye and Guardian readers.
It doesn't make any difference to me whether or not he owns BSkyB.
I hope it does run and run, and that him withdrawing from going for total ownership doesn't mean that his affairs and methods of operating won't be fully investigated ..
I have a feeling that it will go further and that this whole affair has opened up a dialogue that a lot of people have been too scared or intimidated to engage in. MPs like Chris Bryant have been given due credence and listened to. Murdoch has been allowed to run rough shod across Parliamentary Democracies for decades (his powers undiminished from Thatcher to Blair and lately to Cameron). I'm happy that a few maverick voices have been vindicated (Vince Cable, in particular).
It'll all come out in a good boil wash
And Joe. I'm reading this at the moment. It's a cracking read so far.....http://www.amazon.co.uk/Treasure-Islands-Havens-Stole-World/dp/1847921108/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310571077&sr=1-1
Thanks for the tip. 
I'm such a bigot!
I was rather hoping that this would run and run and that we would end up with some insight into his hegemony and tax affairs. This might then lead into the whole big business tax scandal being publicised beyond Private Eye and Guardian readers.
It doesn't make any difference to me whether or not he owns BSkyB.
I have a feeling this will run and run. A lot of people in the meeja have been waiting too long for this. He's trying all the damage limitation he can, scrapping the NOTW, withdrawing from BSkyB....he's cacking his knickers cos it's all gonna start churning out like manure in a cow field. I almost feel sorry for the prick
Oh and if you're thinking of the twitter thing...no-one needs to know it's you if you'd rather stay incognito. Just devise a moniker and you're away. Charlie Sheen is good entertainment on there
I'm such a bigot!
I was rather hoping that this would run and run and that we would end up with some insight into his hegemony and tax affairs. This might then lead into the whole big business tax scandal being publicised beyond Private Eye and Guardian readers.
It doesn't make any difference to me whether or not he owns BSkyB.
I hope it does run and run, and that him withdrawing from going for total ownership doesn't mean that his affairs and methods of operating won't be fully investigated ..
I have a feeling that it will go further and that this whole affair has opened up a dialogue that a lot of people have been too scared or intimidated to engage in. MPs like Chris Bryant have been given due credence and listened to. Murdoch has been allowed to run rough shod across Parliamentary Democracies for decades (his powers undiminished from Thatcher to Blair and lately to Cameron). I'm happy that a few maverick voices have been vindicated (Vince Cable, in particular).
It'll all come out in a good boil wash
Miliband has just echoed most of what I said nearly an hour ago, and it looks like Parliament is united and ready to kick arse
About time Murdoch was tackled,however both Labour and the Tories have courted him so they ain't lily white either.I suspect he'll be back at some point....
It's times like this that you miss the CH4 news forum har!
About time Murdoch was tackled,however both Labour and the Tories have courted him so they ain't lily white either.I suspect he'll be back at some point....
Well, quite. How many of those in parliament have advocated his actions in the past? *cough Cameron cough*
About time Murdoch was tackled,however both Labour and the Tories have courted him so they ain't lily white either.I suspect he'll be back at some point....
True, Katty. Both parties have been guilty of kissing Murdoch's arse. But I believe that Gordon Brown didn't dance to his tune, hence the attack on him.
Anyway, I'm glad Murdoch's guns have been spiked. Especially as those guns were being aimed at the heart of the BBC
About time Murdoch was tackled,however both Labour and the Tories have courted him so they ain't lily white either.I suspect he'll be back at some point....
Well, quite. How many of those in parliament have advocated his actions in the past? *cough Cameron cough*
Apparantly it goes as far back as Wilson's second go at being Prime Minister.
David Cameron was spineless to duck out of the debate on NI today.....Gordon Brown turned up for 1st time in ages.
About time Murdoch was tackled,however both Labour and the Tories have courted him so they ain't lily white either.I suspect he'll be back at some point....
True, Katty. Both parties have been guilty of kissing Murdoch's arse. But I believe that Gordon Brown didn't dance to his tune, hence the attack on him.
Anyway, I'm glad Murdoch's guns have been spiked. Especially as those guns were being aimed at the heart of the BBC
They're still taking potshots at Brown today , that bastion of quality journalism that is the Sun 
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
Ironically they're " protecting the identity" of the person who they say gave them the info( a parent of a child with CF, they claim). They're also missing the point that Brown didn't actually say they'd accessed his son's records- in fact he said he didn't know how they;d got the info. They're out to get him again.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
Word from who?
Quite a gamble coming out all upset if they approached News Corps themselves, no?
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
I was just about to go but it's just got interesting again.
If what you say is right then why didn't Brown just say that?
Scrap that ^^^ I'm bored again. Catch ya later, MQ 
Decent speech by Brown in house of commons... but is it not abit piss poor that he never showed up for the past 15 months but has now gone in on a personal matter? He's certainly coming under alot of fire for it.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
Word from who?
Quite a gamble coming out all upset if they approached News Corps themselves, no?
we're all gamblers at heart....it's all about the timing and knowing when to fold/hold. what's that term, zeitgeist? yeah, it's all about that. btw, good to see you back dude
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
I was just about to go but it's just got interesting again.
If what you say is right then why didn't Brown just say that?
Scrap that ^^^ I'm bored again. Catch ya later, MQ
no probs! catch ya laters too.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
I reckon the Sun would have gone to town with that one if there was a shred of truth in it.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
Word from who?
Quite a gamble coming out all upset if they approached News Corps themselves, no?
we're all gamblers at heart....it's all about the timing and knowing when to fold/hold. what's that term, zeitgeist? yeah, it's all about that. btw, good to see you back dude
Likewise.
Not quite sure what the zeitgeist has to do with it?
Proper point though. Them's are high stakes coming out and saying what Brown did when he and Sarah approached The Sun themselves - according the The Word.
Out of character behaviour for an individual hardly known for being a gambler. Even more out of character that The Sun et al declined to mention it themselves, huh.
http://www.powerbase.info/inde...aulay_Communications
watch and see where they've been involved. they do have previous.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
I reckon the Sun would have gone to town with that one if there was a shred of truth in it.
D'you think? 
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
No, it was Rebekah Brooks who used that line to get Brown's consent to run the Sun's story.
Even The Sun isn't claiming they got the story from the Browns (and considering what they've written about Gordon recently I'm sure they would if it was true).
The Sun have said they got the story from the father of another child with cystic fibrosis.
Yea Slinki they are still despicable...stating that they didn't actually hack his son's medical records but got them from a "legitimate " source etc.This was still a child that had no "In the public interest" etc,that they quote.Scumbags the lot of them.
word is that brown and his wife (she's a public relations master) approached news international with information about fraser's condition to give cystic fibrosis a boost in profile. they're all at it.
Word from who?
Quite a gamble coming out all upset if they approached News Corps themselves, no?
we're all gamblers at heart....it's all about the timing and knowing when to fold/hold. what's that term, zeitgeist? yeah, it's all about that. btw, good to see you back dude
Likewise.
Not quite sure what the zeitgeist has to do with it?
Proper point though. Them's are high stakes coming out and saying what Brown did when he and Sarah approached The Sun themselves - according the The Word.
Out of character behaviour for an individual hardly known for being a gambler. Even more out of character that The Sun et al declined to mention it themselves, huh.
coz he (brown) has nothing to lose now, and news corps integrity (yeah i know) is in shreds at the moment. and it's rebekah that was approached (not the sun per se) so her reticence is helping them. it's all about things being hidden/forgotten in the initial scramble for truth. having said all that, i still have an open mind, just passing on gossip
