Ex Hms Danielle Matt and Bianca spoke to the the power Hms and told them that Zoe was a snake in the grass and Pav has a game plan and was manipulating the Hms. Later when the twist was reveal the Phms revealed what they were told and the two new ones were isolated ,more Pav than Zoe .The crowd booing him heck knows .

I don't mind him either Crunchy ....he's done nothing wrong that I can see !

I feel the same .

I am not fussed on Zoe .

Yeah that's partly the reason Erin, but to me they seemed to dislike him after about a day even before the Bianca/Danielle/matthew thing.

All the previous booing, I can see a reason whether I agree with it or not. E.g Steven for coming across as a controlling, possessive asshole, Ashleigh for her bitchiness weeks ago, likewise Helen. Danielle for her bullshit etc etc. But all those BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS for Pav, I honestly don't know what the guy has done to get them.

As Erin says, the HMs are suspicious of Pav because the ex-HMs queered the pitch for him. As for the crowd: well, some of those idiots would have booed Mother Teresa...

 

Pav appears to be rather quiet in there, and he did say some silly, provocative stuff on his VT (e.g. about his psychology degree), but then so did Chris and look how popular he is now...

Ah I didn't see his VT. So did the other housemates see his VT? Why the feck do BB do this! What happened to the days where VT's were left for only the outside worlds viewing?

No (well, not yet...  ), but of course the crowd did, and the ex-HMs obviously saw it before reporting to the Power Alliance. Pav's brother was on Thursday's BotS and was claiming everyone was making way too much about Pav having a psychology degree and the advantage that might give him, but as I said at the time he was rather avoiding the uncomfortable fact that it was initially Pav who made such a deal of it in the first place...

The original hm's were shown the newbie VT's.

Its a bit like Chris and Jale suffering for their VTs at the start. 

It is .................but this time the entire house have a 'sort of' common bond and the antagonism towards them is being presented as a united front. I think he could have been a good and well liked HM if he'd gone in at the start. I think you have to be something exceptional or dynamic to make up all that lost ground - unfortunately he is nether dynamic nor exceptional,

True, he's no Sam Pepper. Poor guy, he must be lonely. At least he had the last laugh on Steven though,  after he'd patronised the hell out of him. 

I feel for him.  He's done nothing at all wrong and I don't know why the idiots in the crowd are booing him.  Then again they are giving huge cheers to Dimston and Mark (who is now getting on my nerves) so they are obviously watching a different show.

 

And the producers are to blame.  They wouldn't let the old HMs advise the Power Alliance to nominate anyone OTHER than Pav and Zoe.

 

Now Zoe....there's someone I don't really like.  I cannot understand the cheers for her??  Seriously, the crowd should be given an IQ test before they are allowed to enter the compound on a Friday night.

The crowd was weird tonight 

They're always weird.  Makes you wonder where they get these people from.

 

Oh yeah, thanks... Were they shown all of them though, or just the intro bits? I can't remember...

Think it was all of them Eugene, they're only short those VTs?

I get why he's not a favourite, because he doesn't appear to be that interesting. That may be down to edits or whatever. Having said that, even if he's the most boring person ever, he still hasn't done anything to warrant the hatred from the public and fellow hm's (imo). I don't get it.

My view is Pav was given a bit of a raw deal by going in the house with a sextrovert, obviously Bianca, and an extrovert Zoe who because she's been on tv some of the hm's gravitated towards her in a sycophantic way. Maybe he got booed because some wanted Ashleigh to stay, some wanted Zoe to stay and some wanted Steve to stay. If Pav was booed because his VT didn't show him as the same person in the house well how many VT's do!!! Potential BB hm's big themselves up on their VT's in the hope of being chosen, it may help them at that stage but when they go into the house it can go against them. Pav's not my favourite by any means but I can't see what he's done wrong and I don't like seeing anyone isolated

Feel sorry for the guy

The way they say he shouldn't be there as if he's no right to be in there, you'd think he'd just been released early from a serious prison sentence or something.

It's bloody harsh the way he's been treated I think!

I agree - not sure why he's so disliked

I've enjoyed watching Chris shit stirring and being a sneaky sly snake, but tonight with Pav crossed the line a bit. Considering Chris knows how Pav must be feeling, for him to make him out to be some sort of pervy creep on national tv is low imo.

Do I think Pav has been staring at Ashleigh like that? No, because Chris is the last person I'd trust in there.

I'm still a fan of Chris because his shifty persona and sneaky ways are interesting to watch, but that was out of order. Kicking a man while he's down. Poor Pav won't know where to look now.

I agree with you Crunch -  apart from the liking Chris bit.    FFS   are you only allowed to look at certain people now?    Next thing he'll be being accused of being aloof and not making eye contact.

I think C5 have played a blinder ...Helen is becoming more popular by the moment , and they have managed to get rid of one of her challengers ......plus everyone seems to have forgotten that Pav is a psychology student ...isn't he ....and if so, he probably worked out that coming in so late, the only chance he would have to reach the final was to play the * poor me card * ......I would ....and don't forget either that he had the benefit of watching that work for a few weeks for  Jale  All that of course presupposes that the whole thing isn't * scripted* from start to finish ! ,

For me that thing from Chris to Pav was worse than anything that's came out of Helen's trap. Yeah she's much louder, but the damage that could do to Pav's experience now makes it worse.

I liked Chris a lot but have gone off him over his comments to Pav last night, like Crunchy says, that was a way out of order remark to make on TV, Christopher is my favourite to win now

you talking about chris or pav, Donks?  If it's chris, i agree 

Backed him at the bookies, you mean?  You might still be in with a shout there.  

so long as nobody hides Baz's phone ... you never know! 

Ok , I'M going to stick my head above the parapet on this one  

 

1. None of them like Pav....it's not just Chris ...in fact Mark was downright rude to him last night ! 

 

2. Most of the dislike seems to have come from Matthew and Danielle saying not to trust him ....two people that Chris and Ashleigh hung around with .... not from Chris per se .

 

3. Others have said he stares ...not just Chris ....but I'm guessing it was Danielle's comment about it that started it ....aNd I didn't hear Ashleigh saying different

 

 

4. Up until this week Chris hadn't put a foot wrong ....moreover he had said and done everything a vast portion of  the GBP wanted him to...suddenly he's public enemy number 1

 

5. Chris might have been unusually tactless telling Pav last night , but he did it quietly , calmly and in private ....not shouting at the top of his voice ,  or involving others for back up. 

 

6 . ANd probably very controversially , I think the whole think has been blown out of all proportion , given some the things that have been said, and happened in the house over the last few weeks ! 

 

And breathe  

 

*agrees with everything Baz posted^^^^*

 

Can I remind people that Steven also mentioned how he was sick of Pav staring at him.

Oh yes ...I'd forgotten that Yogi  I really do think that all Chris was doing was trying to give Pav a heads up as to what others were saying  

.... and can I remind you that we don't listen to a thing Steven says?    

If he hadn't had a conversation about it with someone beforehand "he needs to stop looking at Ashleigh" and called him names for staying and wishing Steven stayed over him, I might buy that line.

 True, but my favourite HM is a drowning man and I'll even grab Steven-sized straws to save him.

Yep....we are pretty desperate ....the only straw we won't grasp is one from Helen !!!

I'd rather go down like the titanic than grasp her!